Weatherman Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761 Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB. A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites. What would fair market value be? Do we have the ammo? Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Not interested. Hard pass. We don't need him. 1 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Weatherman Posted February 19, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Not interested. Hard pass. We don't need him. At no point did you say anything that can be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having read your reply. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. 8 1 1 37 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Weatherman said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761 Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB. A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites. What would fair market value be? Do we have the ammo? Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2. I understand that the Commanders defensive line is loaded, but Young would be a lot for them to part with. For argument's sake, if the Bills were to pull this type of trade off, they would also have to pay him top dollar. Can the Bills do that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Who in the hell are the Commanders? 5 1 21 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 All name no game. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Starting over with a good pass rusher on a rookie deal seems like a good idea. Why on earth would they want to trade him? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Who in the hell are the Commanders? WFTs new name, lame as it is, it is what it is… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Starting over with a good pass rusher on a rookie deal seems like a good idea. Why on earth would they want to trade him? Reports are they are willing to part with him to get a franchise QB. 19 minutes ago, SWATeam said: All name no game. Please do explain. He has been great every year except this year because he was hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Ain’t happening. They won’t trade him. However, I could see a trade with either D’aron Payne or Montez Sweat. They aren’t going to be able afford to pay all these guys long term. However they dont need to make a move now. They have some time. Sweat for Edmunds, who says no? They have a massive hole at linebacker and we need sacks. What about Payne for Edmunds? Payne and Edmunds are playing on a 5th year option so it matches up. Payne is the perfect complement to Ed Oliver. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Starting over with a good pass rusher on a rookie deal seems like a good idea. Why on earth would they want to trade him? They're not trading him under any circumstances. You have a Hall of Fame talent on his rookie deal and he's a hometown kid. It's not happening. Especially under a defensive mind at HC like Rivera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just now, Weatherman said: Reports are they are willing to part with him to get a franchise QB. We're not trading Josh Allen to them 😄 Realistically, the Bills are drafting too low in this year & are projected to be drafting low in future drafts. By contrast, the main reason we were able to get Bennett for 2 #1s and Greg Bell, 3 years from when he was a number 1, and a 2nd rounder was because the Bills were drafting pretty high in the years before the trade & the parners thought the picks would be relatively high. There's no way Washington would trade Young to a team for what they view as low 1st round picks. In other words, the whole premise of this thread is nothing but an impossible fantasy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Weatherman said: Reports are they are willing to part with him to get a franchise QB. Please do explain. He has been great every year except this year because he was hurt. So you want to trade Allen for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, Weatherman said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761 Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB. A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites. What would fair market value be? Do we have the ammo? Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2. Even if we were to consider this trade, I don’t think Washington would or could do it. Getting our 25th pick (and any futures) and with their 11th pick, really wouldn’t be worth enough to move very high up in the draft this year. And even if it were, it doesn’t seem like there is much elite QB talent in this draft. i think what WFT is probably thinking is doing Young for Russell Wilson or another existing star. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 It sounds like they'd only part with him for an established franchise QB like Rodgers or Wilson. Franchise Trubisky and trade him for Chase Young straight up. Who says no? 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Weatherman said: Reports are they are willing to part with him to get a franchise QB. and all we have available is ammo for them to try to move up at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 They should go knocking on the Texans door. No other team with a franchise QB is giving him up for Chase Young. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Weatherman said: At no point did you say anything that can be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having read your reply. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. I hear that a lot from Bills fans. "Hey, TJ Watt is available" "Hard pass. Wouldnt touch him with a 10 foot pole. Maybe for a 6th" They feel some sort of power from it, I think. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Weatherman said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761 Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB. A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites. What would fair market value be? Do we have the ammo? Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2. He 's done nothing in the league, rather have Maxx Crosby who we aren't getting. Best we can do is someone like Charles Harris from Detroit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 considering the bills picks are in the high 25's .....it would take 3 first rounders and a massive contract extension when he's due neither side would take that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, klos63 said: So you want to trade Allen for him? The picks provide them Ammo to trade for one. 40 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: They should go knocking on the Texans door. No other team with a franchise QB is giving him up for Chase Young. Most draft experts aren’t predicting QB’s to go in the first couple picks this year. Maybe they need the ammo to get to #1 or #2 similar to how the Bills moved up for Allen. It’s a stretch, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Weatherman said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761 Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB. A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites. What would fair market value be? Do we have the ammo? Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2. No way we can pull this off. Only reason Bears did was because they had Trubisky for a while on a rookie deal. They made that trade hoping Trubisky would pan out too. Bills already paid Allen, they can’t afford to part with a bounty of picks too get one guy, especially one coming off a major season ending injury like his that can take a full season of playing before you really know what kind of player they are after the injury. And like I’ve had said in other threads, we were 5th in the NFL in QB pressure and 10th in sacks while not blitzing a lot. We are no where near as bad as people think in our pass rush and also have 3 picks the last 2 drafts in first 2 rounds to get on the field more as it is. We won’t likely be making any kind of crazy big trade like this for any DE, nor do we need to. CB, DT, and OL are more critical off-season needs. Edited February 19, 2022 by Alphadawg7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 It would take a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 If we are trading for someone I actually like the idea of trading for Khalil Mack. He would be a lot cheaper than what the Bears had to give up to get him a few years ago. Two questions though. Does he fit our defense and can we afford the cap hit? Bears are not in win now mode so they might be open to the idea of getting an extra first rounder or a couple day two picks to build the team for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 right now....too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, SWATeam said: All name no game. This. If we were going to overpay for a defensive end, there are about 10-20 guys I would want over Chase Young for the 1st Rounder+ it would take. 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: They're not trading him under any circumstances. You have a Hall of Fame talent on his rookie deal and he's a hometown kid. It's not happening. Especially under a defensive mind at HC like Rivera. Lol “Hall Of Fame Talent” … Just FYI, he had 1.5 sacks this year in 9 games and was constantly out of position. He’s a huge reason why the Redskins defense regressed badly this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 the way our D line is currently constructed...... i would rather move Oliver to DE and roll with youth rousseau, basham and espenesa. get rid of hughes, star, addison, butler, obada. reallocate those $$ i like harrison and zimmerman but they aint good enough either. what we really need are two large DT's who can stuff the run.....along with 2 CB's and 2 OL's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 First I would totally trade for him second they’re not going to trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I'd rather go get Josh Allen. Hey, it worked before 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No way we can pull this off. Only reason Bears did was because they had Trubisky for a while on a rookie deal. They made that trade hoping Trubisky would pan out too. Bills already paid Allen, they can’t afford to part with a bounty of picks too get one guy, especially one coming off a major season ending injury like his that can take a full season of playing before you really know what kind of player they are after the injury. And like I’ve had said in other threads, we were 5th in the NFL in QB pressure and 10th in sacks while not blitzing a lot. We are no where near as bad as people think in our pass rush and also have 3 picks the last 2 drafts in first 2 rounds to get on the field more as it is. We won’t likely be making any kind of crazy big trade like this for any DE, nor do we need to. CB, DT, and OL are more critical off-season needs. Besides, the existence of this thread precludes this from EVER happening. Hypothetical trade threads are NOT allowed to come to existence per Jim Facenda and the other Gods of football. …I’m pretty sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Who in the hell are the Commanders? Weren’t they the 70s funk group with Lionel Richie? 😉 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Who in the hell are the Commanders? Lionel Ritchie sang for them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Meanwhile watch the Chiefs go sign OBJ this offseason to add to their skills group…. Beanies a wizard though, I know. OBJ won't even play again until 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Weren’t they the 70s funk group with Lionel Richie? 😉 Commodores 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Good thought but I don't see it. 2 #1s at least, maybe more. Can't see Beane doing that for 1 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 We are already SB favorites.... I have zero interest in giving up multiple 1st round picks and a monster contract for a DE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Meanwhile watch the Chiefs go sign OBJ this offseason to add to their skills group…. Beanies a wizard though, I know. That Josh Gordon signing worked out great for them. I'd be psyched if OBJ was theirr plan for a #2 WR. A 30 year old coming off of two ACL tears on the same knee who pry won't even be ready to play by November if he's lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Process said: We are already SB favorites.... I have zero interest in giving up multiple 1st round picks and a monster contract for a DE. He’s on the 3rd year of his rookie deal. It’s not a monster contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Weatherman said: He’s on the 3rd year of his rookie deal. It’s not a monster contract. Isn't there some excuse I can come up with to NOT want the Bills to add talent at an important position? I'll say anything. I'll downplay how good of a player he is, I'll pretend he has a destructive personality like that diva Stefon Diggs, I'll over-dramatize the loss of draft picks, I'll pretend our current players at the position are better than they are, something something salary cap...anything! I know the trade is unlikely to happen so I need to find a way to preemptively not want it to happen in the first place. The soothing of my worries is more important than the Bills winning championships. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Meanwhile watch the Chiefs go sign OBJ this offseason to add to their skills group…. Beanies a wizard though, I know. You would be royally pissed at Beane if he signed a guy that will miss at least 80% of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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