Bills Fan in MD Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 If Dorsey really was being courted by so many teams, I'm guessing that the Bills stepped up financially. Obviously having #17 was a draw, but at some point money talks. No more "Ralph is cheap!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Now do Frazier's replacement. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 He gotta get creative! Can’t just do the same ole Daboll offense. Push to elevate the concept scheme and to design player personnel packages to have defenses heads spin!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I hardly think they promoted Dorsey simply because Allen was an advocate. If you know anything about McDermott and Beane, you have to know they have been anticiapating this for the last two years and, I'm sure, evaluated all their options and made the decision they felt was best for the team. Agree 100%. Most businesses have succession plans in place for important positions. Its the nature of the world...people move on, quit, get promoted, etc. I'm certain they have a running list of coaches, staff, and players in the event there are openings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Eichel recommended Rick Dennison as OC? Crazy, right? But Nathan Peterman recommended Krueger to the Sabres, so it's even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Im happy. Continuity is good. This will bring us some consistency, but a new guy in charge will have a new way of thinking and seeing. no doubt about it. And he will probably have a right hand man with another different set of eyes. No guarantees it works, but it is the right move to make in this moment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: He gotta get creative! Can’t just do the same ole Daboll offense. Push to elevate the concept scheme and to design player personnel packages to have defenses heads spin!!!! I think Daboll had his infamously criticized playcalling moments in his tenure with the Bills. Wasn't it the end run and playoffs run that propelled he to his new job as Head Coach? Plus having #17 as your QB we all know does Not suck. Anyway mr Dorsey has a clean slate it's up to HIM what changes he would implement in the offense and create synergy there..not just hero worship...know what I mean? Screen game hell yes. Lets wait nd see what happens ............First poster that calls for his firing in his first season Im gonna throw a cyber rotten tomato at his head....word. Patience grasshoppers. GO BILLS haha m Edited February 1, 2022 by muppy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Would like to see them bring in some version of an experienced OL coach/running game coordinator to pair with him. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: As was always going to happen and why I refused to worry about it at all. Can we hire Palmer as the new QBs coach? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The best choice....my number one choice as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) YACs Dorsey. We want more YACs. Edited February 1, 2022 by FrenchConnection 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The familiarity he and Josh have with one another is the key dynamic here. Dorsey doesn't have to come in and learn anything about Josh, not as a new OC would have, because he already knows. I think this bodes well for the offense and team as a whole. It was the most obvious, but also the right move to make in this instance. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, filthymcnasty08 said: Now do Frazier's replacement. We may need to pay him big bucks as well to Leave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Couple of points... 1. You should be banned for even mentioning Eichel in the same sentence as Allen, let alone comparing them. 2. When we need crucial yards, you put the ball in the hands of your best player on the field. That is JFA. 3. YAC was low, but Josh's Air Yards per Pass was high. It's a trade off. Teams with high YAC often throw low yardage bubble screens. 4. Absolutely did not use Davis enough. And then blew our cover for next year in the last game of the season so we wont have the ability to "surprise" anyone with him. Welp, online he will now have no other moniker than "JFA"! Lets make this a thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I hope Dorsey fights to keep McKenzie in a Bills uniform. I suspect that Daboll might have been McKenzies biggest supporter in Buffalo. A lot of hay has been made about how McKenzie really emerged in the latter part of the season. But, a lot of those plays were things that McK was running in 2019, before we acquired Diggs-- those jet sweeps, and end-arounds, etc. Especially with the likely departure of Sanders, and possibly Beasly, McKensie's role on offense seems as important as ever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: We may need to pay him big bucks as well to Leave! He is a valuable asset. Worth 2 third round picks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: Welp, online he will now have no other moniker than "JFA"! Lets make this a thing Hahaha, it is the only way we refer to him in all of the texts and group chats I'm on. Even my dad calls him "JFA". Keep it going! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: We may need to pay him big bucks as well to Leave! frazier Frazier FRAZIER.....mr frazier has not been given nor received any offers yet whatsoever......hmmmm. Not to go off topic but he and Dorsey are copadres meaning like knitted family in the Process... meh I wonder if Frazier does end up staying now....... Edited February 1, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Can we hire Palmer as the new QBs coach? Can we, yes. Should we, no. The off-season is the only time that Josh has to fine tune his game without any of the coaching staff. Having Palmer available to him during that time is more important. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Glad the Bills got their first choice and I’m excited to see what he can do! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 My initial reaction was "this is good." I like the continuity and this should have the least impact on Josh, which is good. Having said that, Dorsey has zero experience as an OC or play calling at the NFL level (or maybe any level?) and that scares the crap out of me. I wanted a guy with play calling experience. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Is Frazier fired yet? Just now, Nextmanup said: My initial reaction was "this is good." I like the continuity and this should have the least impact on Josh, which is good. Having said that, Dorsey has zero experience as an OC or play calling at the NFL level (or maybe any level?) and that scares the crap out of me. I wanted a guy with play calling experience. Perhaps Josh is ready to call his own plays? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said: If Dorsey really was being courted by so many teams, I'm guessing that the Bills stepped up financially. Obviously having #17 was a draw, but at some point money talks. No more "Ralph is cheap!" I'm sure they kicked in some extra money to sweeten the pot. Last week Cowherd mentioned on his show that many insiders he knows said Dorsey will be the next great coordinator. This is a good day! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: My initial reaction was "this is good." I like the continuity and this should have the least impact on Josh, which is good. Having said that, Dorsey has zero experience as an OC or play calling at the NFL level (or maybe any level?) and that scares the crap out of me. I wanted a guy with play calling experience. He has Josh Allen. He'll be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 this guy sucks! he never got anything done until he had allen. we need a real winner, like dabol. i'll see myself out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: My initial reaction was "this is good." I like the continuity and this should have the least impact on Josh, which is good. Having said that, Dorsey has zero experience as an OC or play calling at the NFL level (or maybe any level?) and that scares the crap out of me. I wanted a guy with play calling experience. I would be shocked if Dorsey hasn't been practicing or preparing to call plays for years. I'm sure Josh and him are already talking about how to work together. Josh and this entire organization doesn't strike me as the kind of place that was just blindsided with this moment and doesn't have a plan in place going forward. They literally satisfied the Rooney Rule and announced Dorsey as OC the next day. This was a done deal. We'll be fine. Edited February 1, 2022 by uninja 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I like that McKenzie is excited. One more hint he signs a 3 year contract with the Bills soon. 47 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said: If Dorsey really was being courted by so many teams, I'm guessing that the Bills stepped up financially. Obviously having #17 was a draw, but at some point money talks. No more "Ralph is cheap!" That is so true. That old cliche needs to be update to "Terry spends like a drunken sailor"! 23 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: My initial reaction was "this is good." I like the continuity and this should have the least impact on Josh, which is good. Having said that, Dorsey has zero experience as an OC or play calling at the NFL level (or maybe any level?) and that scares the crap out of me. I wanted a guy with play calling experience. Well that is something you will have to deal with. I'm fairly sure that Ken Dorsey has been working on his own putting schemes and plays together for the team for the last couple of years. Daboll took everything into consideration (which was a good thing). If players could bring plays to Daboll I'm sure the "Passing Coordinator" had a significant input. If your meaning is a concern about what play will Dorsey call on a 3rd and 4 on the opposing 44 yard line we will all have to see what happens there. In some ways a "stranger" would have to learn Josh Allen's skills and Ken Dorsey has been through all the learning curve with Allen. No one can say with certainty how Dorsey will perform, and he will have a learning curve himself, but I see no reason to panic. Edited February 1, 2022 by ColoradoBills 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s been like that all year. Must have been a typo. I didn't notice it before someone pointed it out a few days ago. But it was an incredibly odd typo. 46 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said: If Dorsey really was being courted by so many teams, I'm guessing that the Bills stepped up financially. Obviously having #17 was a draw, but at some point money talks. No more "Ralph is cheap!" That's what I'm thinking. 35 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Probably Frazier with the most pressure… He’d be the first guy fired if the Bills defense is a sieve for the third year in a row in the playoffs next year. I still want to know who called the defense during the last 13 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: I still want to know who called the defense during the last 13 seconds. Daboll. So glad he's gone. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I was in a meeting 😭 Was it a "high level" meeting? 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Great! But, Ken, you should know, I'm giving you until the end of preseason game number 2 to convince me I was right to be behind this move. Otherwise I will be creating a petition and sending it to Terry I send my letters to Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I send my letters to Kim I'm guessing the only one you got back from her was the restraining order, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, Governor said: Is Frazier fired yet? Perhaps Josh is ready to call his own plays? Bills just hired their one Tom Moore.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpbills Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I was in a meeting 😭 Hopefully not with the Giants fan board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Does he have any experience with the run game and run blocking schemes Would love for Dorsey to get with Gailey in the off-season to study the art of the screen game. Then I’d like him to get with Roman to pick his brain about run blocking schemes - assuming coaches are open to helping out one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills just hired their one Tom Moore.... So you're saying a bunch of Lombardi's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Great news. But God help him if Allen starts slow again next season like he did in the first two games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, TH3 said: Dunno...thought some fresh takes would be good.... Hopefully he will add his own spin to improve things. Offense was decent and didn’t need to start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Dorsey lost offense heads and has to fill from his experiences quickly now. Josh may now benefit more from new ideas vs. continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The best college QB ever, coaching the (soon-to-be) best NFL QB ever. Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42Knuck Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 So does Tee Martin get to Sue as well? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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