without a drought Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Give me the first 24 and I'll give an answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Doc said: The pick has to be CB. A starting one won't be available in FA at a reasonable price and with Wallace likely leaving and Tre's status up in the air, it's a need. They can add a WR or two in FA or the later rounds of the draft. This makes sense. Don't have the cap to get a quality CB in FA. Then again CBs are not the only expensive FAs out there. Whatever they pick, they have to hit it out of the park. Offense makes sense too. Middle of the OL and WR. We need some speed on O. Couple of different ways to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Golden said: Doesn’t seem likely but 6foot 1 inch 220 pound Breece Hall, runs a 4.39 40. No way do the Bills take a RB in rd #1 - plus this guy took a lot of hits in college - he is also considered weak in pass protection - highly doubtful the Bills pick him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Exactly. I’m tired of all the early picks on defense. It’s gotten us the number one defense in the league with a lot of solid young players to develop. Enough. What we need to do is load up on offense. Our WR are either old or slow. We don’t have anyone that os young with speed. Our RB room is slow too. On top of that, we still need some solid guards to protect Allen and open holes for our runners. No. No. No. you can just as easily add a corner in the later rounds. It works both ways. Time to start throwing some elite traits into this offense and make it unstoppable. I think we are generally on the same page about our needs and which positions to draft early in 2022, but I disagree with the bolded. It's not only you but many people on this board say the same - enough of early picks on defense, let's go offense this time. I think it is completely irrelevant what we drafted in the past. We have current team, look at it and draft accordingly. I don't care if we draft 3 CBs in the first round in a row if it's somehow best for the team each year. But I do agree now is the time to draft WR and OL early. It's much bigger need than anything on defense (except CB, who would I draft also in first 3 rounds). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: I think we are generally on the same page about our needs and which positions to draft early in 2022, but I disagree with the bolded. It's not only you but many people on this board say the same - enough of early picks on defense, let's go offense this time. I think it is completely irrelevant what we drafted in the past. We have current team, look at it and draft accordingly. I don't care if we draft 3 CBs in the first round in a row if it's somehow best for the team each year. But I do agree now is the time to draft WR and OL early. It's much bigger need than anything on defense (except CB, who would I draft also in first 3 rounds). Yes I agree. However, I have zero hope in first round offensive talent with this staff. It’s almost like McD pitches a fit and begs for defense and only after that is he ok with going offense. I could be off, but I don’t think I’m far from being accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Any one of these would fill a major need. 1. Davis DT Georgia 2. Ahmad Gardner CB U of Cincinnati 3. Kyler Gordon CB U of Washington 4. Kenyon Green OG Texas A&M 5. Kairi Elam CB U of Florida 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 6:25 AM, LyndonvilleBill said: Or you might be able to get Jerome Ford later in the draft. 5 ' 11: 220e and a 4.36. I'm not a fan of RB's in the 1st round. That’s a really good point, still get the size, speed & power we need 👍 On 1/30/2022 at 10:46 AM, BuffaloBill said: No way do the Bills take a RB in rd #1 - plus this guy took a lot of hits in college - he is also considered weak in pass protection - highly doubtful the Bills pick him up Good additional information on the pass blocking 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Whoever this year's TJ Watt is. Preferably TJ Watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 While I think G/C and 1T DT are must upgrades, I'm prone to getting them in rds 2-4. 1st round is likely a corner (?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 10:46 AM, BuffaloBill said: No way do the Bills take a RB in rd #1 - plus this guy took a lot of hits in college - he is also considered weak in pass protection - highly doubtful the Bills pick him up They said the exact same thing about Jonathan Taylor. Also said Taylor wasn't a good receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: They said the exact same thing about Jonathan Taylor. Also said Taylor wasn't a good receiver. Far bigger needs than RB. Meanwhile Taylor was a 2nd rounder and the 3rd RB taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) On 2/1/2022 at 8:48 PM, Doc said: Far bigger needs than RB. Meanwhile Taylor was a 2nd rounder and the 3rd RB taken. Maybe being chosen 3rd at your position is a charm. Wasn’t Allen chosen 3rd? Edited February 3, 2022 by Solomon Grundy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Big number 99 from Georgia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 If CB lines up I could see that being it. Tre coming off injury, Levi is said to command 8-9M per year which I don't see the Bills paying. Secondary starts looking thin. Unless they belive Jaxkson or someone is ready to make a leap forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 11:36 AM, WMDman said: Tyler Linderbaum I like him a lot but, 1) I think he’ll be gone 2) I think he’s to center specific and Morse might end up being here 2-3 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Big number 99 from Georgia. Jordan Davis to replace Star. Not a terrible pick. It could be him or the best CB on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 11:36 AM, WMDman said: Tyler Linderbaum Who is he and what does he do ? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 1:26 AM, Solomon Grundy said: They said the exact same thing about Jonathan Taylor. Also said Taylor wasn't a good receiver. I did not say the same about Taylor. I absolutely loved him. There isn't a Jonathan Taylor in this class. On 2/2/2022 at 1:48 AM, Doc said: Far bigger needs than RB. Meanwhile Taylor was a 2nd rounder and the 3rd RB taken. Yea lord knows how. He was a classic case of overthinking. To take CEH ahead of him is borderline criminal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 on the premise the bills must beat KC #1 - CB #2- OL #3- OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 BPA regardless of position (Obviously not qb, Punter, Kicker, Long snapper.) otherwise just take best player. Fill needs later on if BPA doesn't match need. I want talented players not guys that just fill a hole in our roster but are average or mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Jameson Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Anyone know who we have at the Senior Bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Zion Johnson at 25 wouldn't be a bad idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I did not say the same about Taylor. I absolutely loved him. There isn't a Jonathan Taylor in this class. Yea lord knows how. He was a classic case of overthinking. To take CEH ahead of him is borderline criminal. Yes, I believe you and I were banging the same drum for Taylor. I'm not sure there isn't another Taylor in this draft. I'm pretty high on Breece Hall. Just wanna see how he times in the 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Yes, I believe you and I were banging the same drum for Taylor. I'm not sure there isn't another Taylor in this draft. I'm pretty high on Breece Hall. Just wanna see how he times in the 40 I'd like to get Breece Hall on day two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Yes, I believe you and I were banging the same drum for Taylor. I'm not sure there isn't another Taylor in this draft. I'm pretty high on Breece Hall. Just wanna see how he times in the 40 What do you think is elite about Hall? I confess I haven't done a lot on the backs so far but I don't know I see an elite trait with him. To be honest he isn't my #1 back in this class at this point (though I reserve the right to change my mind when I get to more games from the running backs). 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: I'd like to get Breece Hall on day two. That is where he will go IMO. I don't see any running backs going day 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 20 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I like him a lot but, 1) I think he’ll be gone 2) I think he’s to center specific and Morse might end up being here 2-3 more years. Morse has one year left on his deal and I’ve also seen talks of retirement but maybe no merit to those. Would suck if he decided to retire after the draft. I don’t think Linderbaum is an option with Morse around though, seems dumb to draft someone in the first round who would sit on the bench for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Morse has one year left on his deal and I’ve also seen talks of retirement but maybe no merit to those. Would suck if he decided to retire after the draft. I don’t think Linderbaum is an option with Morse around though, seems dumb to draft someone in the first round who would sit on the bench for a year. 22 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I like him a lot but, 1) I think he’ll be gone 2) I think he’s to center specific and Morse might end up being here 2-3 more years. So Linderbaum is super athletic, and similar in size to Ryan Bates. He is also a converted D linemen, and a former wrestler. I see no reason why he could not play guard for a year. I also see no reason that Morse could not move to guard. That might actually protect Morse more. And a move to more zone blocking probably pushes Williams out. I do think Linderbaum will be gone, but there is a chance simply because centers always drop, but he’s a generational talent. He really isn’t a true need for us either, but if he’s there he is probably BPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Either a DT that blocks out the sun or a blazing fast RB please! NOT A DE that will rank #1 in DVOA or some Excel spreadsheet but never actually make a memorable play in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I don't think the odds of Tyler Lindenbaum being available are much higher than Jordan Davis. There is IMO a slim possibility. If the bills go for BPA, I'd be intrigued by Jamison Williams. It's almost a guarantee that there will be a cornerback available at #25 who represents decent value. I do think the Bills need to upgrade there. It would be nice if Andrew Booth were available, but it might end up being Trent McDuffie or Roger McCreary. There are also some offensive linemenI would mind in a Bills uniform: Kenyon Green or Darian Kinnard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: I don't think the odds of Tyler Lindenbaum being available are much higher than Jordan Davis. There is IMO a slim possibility. If the bills go for BPA, I'd be intrigued by Jamison Williams. It's almost a guarantee that there will be a cornerback available at #25 who represents decent value. I do think the Bills need to upgrade there. It would be nice if Andrew Booth were available, but it might end up being Trent McDuffie or Roger McCreary. There are also some offensive linemenI would mind in a Bills uniform: Kenyon Green or Darian Kinnard. If Booth is there I'd sprint to the podium. Best corner in the class and in this class a top 6 player IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 trade for a proven pass rusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Olave Got the jersey on preorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 716er said: Olave Got the jersey on preorder Do you know what his 40 time is? I saw a couple videos, and while he appears to have great hands, he didn’t appear to be overly fast or quick... Edited February 5, 2022 by JaCrispy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Do you know what his 40 time is? I saw a couple videos, and while he appears to have great hands, he didn’t appear to be overly fast or quick... Google says 4.4 played fast for Ohio State in the games I saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 12:23 PM, BADOLBILZ said: So you want to use a 1st round pick on a run defender at a position of high bust rate that gives you 40%-45% of the snaps? Try to remember that job #1 in the NFL is to support your QB...........other than actually getting Josh Allen.........4 of the other 5 #1 picks have been expended on defense. Last I checked the Chiefs finished with a better record than Buffalo and had a bad run defense and are about to advance to their 3rd straight Super Bowl...........so a #1 overall ranked defense like the Bills should probably be enough to "beat other teams". The Bills are not gifted on offense..........Josh Allen has put a lot of hard miles on his body to make it look that way............it's time to change that. The story of this season isn't not being able to stop the run...........it can be summed up by scoring only 9 points in a game in Jacksonville..........on a day when your QB desperately needed a playmaker to pick him up........there weren't any to be found. also, great way to stop the run: score a lot, fast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I'm looking and see realistically the following people being around the 25th pick: Nakobe Dean - LB (depends if there's some QB needy teams that push lower graded picks up) Breece Hall - RB David Ojabo - DE Andrew Booth - CB Jahan Dotson - WR Kenyon Green - IOL Treyvon Walker - DE I don't expect Dean to be there, but he's clear BPA if he falls to 25 and I'd take him there. Hall is interesting, he was stout AF in college and was good catching passes too. Not sure about RB in round one but the production and value are there. Assuming we address more pressing needs in FA I like this pick. I don't like taking a rookie DE this late, you're not getting a day one starter and we've loaded dline the last couple of drafts. There's better value for DL later in the draft. For me this eliminates Ojabo and Walker. Booth is good value here, I'd take him if Dean is off the board. WR doesn't feel like a need but the offseason might shake things up. Depending on how FA plays out I might take Dotson. The value is right. If Green is there at 25 with my starters being Bates and Williams, with Boettger coming off an achilles and the backup options being Mongo and Ford I'm taking Green all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Some guy named Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: What do you think is elite about Hall? I confess I haven't done a lot on the backs so far but I don't know I see an elite trait with him. To be honest he isn't my #1 back in this class at this point (though I reserve the right to change my mind when I get to more games from the running backs). That is where he will go IMO. I don't see any running backs going day 1. When I look at Breece, I see the same thing I saw in Taylor. They were both players on teams where the opposing defenses knew they were the lynch pins to their offenses and if they could stop/contain them their chances of winning were higher. Both of them knew how to get in the end zone. This is what makes them special in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, uninja said: I'm looking and see realistically the following people being around the 25th pick: Nakobe Dean - LB (depends if there's some QB needy teams that push lower graded picks up) Breece Hall - RB David Ojabo - DE Andrew Booth - CB Jahan Dotson - WR Kenyon Green - IOL Treyvon Walker - DE I don't expect Dean to be there, but he's clear BPA if he falls to 25 and I'd take him there. Hall is interesting, he was stout AF in college and was good catching passes too. Not sure about RB in round one but the production and value are there. Assuming we address more pressing needs in FA I like this pick. I don't like taking a rookie DE this late, you're not getting a day one starter and we've loaded dline the last couple of drafts. There's better value for DL later in the draft. For me this eliminates Ojabo and Walker. Booth is good value here, I'd take him if Dean is off the board. WR doesn't feel like a need but the offseason might shake things up. Depending on how FA plays out I might take Dotson. The value is right. If Green is there at 25 with my starters being Bates and Williams, with Boettger coming off an achilles and the backup options being Mongo and Ford I'm taking Green all day. CB is a major need and appears to be good value at 25. That has to be the pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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