I said it earlier this week...COMMIT to Devin as a feature runner. No more committee.

[Alphadawg7]

I made a case earlier this week that if we are going to be able to run the ball we must commit to one feature RB, and that back clearly should be Devin Singletary.  Our OL and RB's cant find a rhythm if they aren't seeing enough carries.  Use Brieda as a third down receiving back more and few runs to spell Devin, but without question Devin is our best runner.  

 

Daboll finally pulled his head out of his back side this week and ran the ball 22 times with Devin...a handful of that came about because we were chewing clock the second part of the 4th quarter protecting the lead.  But its what we needed to do, and it benefited Devin and our run blocking today allowing us to run the ball more effectively when it mattered.  I realize Devin had a 3.9 ypc, but that was more due to late game obvious runs.  

 

And this was behind a patchwork offensive line with several guys hurt and playing out of position. 

 

I hope they stick to this featuring of Devin as the primary runner and keep getting him 15+ carries per game min.  

[Buffalo03]

They sure picked the week for it. My opponent had him in fantasy this week

[oldmanfan]

Was good to see

[Rigotz]

I feel like everyone had this take a few weeks ago, so not exactly a revelation. Moss has been garbage this year. Breida can’t be trusted, but should be mixed in a bit.

[Maine-iac]

I mean he'll still be a featured back on a pass first team and I'm ok with that but he should definitely be getting 10 to 15 carries a game.  He's the shiftiest runner we've got and if it weren't for a couple big runs getting called back on penalties I think he might have had 100 yards today.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Maine-iac

[Freddie's Dead]

I'm with you Dawg.

[Coach Tuesday]

Agreed but there were a couple of runs today where if he just had more burst he would’ve had monster gains.  That cutback in the red zone for example.  It’s too bad he’s not faster.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

I’ll give you that it was an improvement, but I still don’t believe DS is fast enough or powerful enough to belong in feature back territory. 

[hemma]

20 touches, every game will probably help the OL too.

Moving aggressively forward instead of shuffling backwards every play keeps a mean/violent feel for a lineman.

Game is a lot more fun when you are the ones doing the smashing.

[Alphadawg7]

9 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I’ll give you that it was an improvement, but I still don’t believe DS is fast enough or powerful enough to belong in feature back territory. 

 

Well no one is coming in to replace this year...so I am referencing featuring him rest of the season, stop this committee nonsense they did all year.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well no one is coming in to replace this year...so I am referencing featuring him rest of the season, stop this committee nonsense they did all year.

I can agree if only because no other backs on the roster are worthy of more than a few carries to spell DS.  If moss was what we wanted/expected him to be, I’d definitely be down with a “thunder and lightning” backfield 

[Alphadawg7]

Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I can agree if only because no other backs on the roster are worthy of more than a few carries to spell DS.  If moss was what we wanted/expected him to be, I’d definitely be down with a “thunder and lightning” backfield 

 

Moss has no vision, that is his biggest issue.  Slow to the hole and misses creases that Devin sees.  Our line isn't good enough to make Moss a good runner.  He might do well on a well blocking team, but we aren't that.  

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I can agree if only because no other backs on the roster are worthy of more than a few carries to spell DS.  If moss was what we wanted/expected him to be, I’d definitely be down with a “thunder and lightning” backfield 

If Moss was 30 pounds heavier.  They keep drafting 205 pound running backs and calling them between the tackle runners.  I certainly wouldn't argue with a 3rd and short goaline back to go with DS but someone who came in around 230 plus pounds would be a nice start.  That's probably why our third down/goal line back is also our QB.

[Buffalo Junction]

26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Agreed but there were a couple of runs today where if he just had more burst he would’ve had monster gains.  That cutback in the red zone for example.  It’s too bad he’s not faster.

Agree with the “more speed” would be nice sentiment. Another spect is that our second level blocking generally stinks. The Oline routinely fails to get second level blockers, and outside of Davis our WRs are average (Diggs) at best at run blocking. Better blocking by our pass catchers would spring a big run here or there…. Still…. Singletary’s speed is far from elite. 

[Nextmanup]

I don't care, or think it matters much, who they hand the ball to from time to time, as long as it's not very often.

 

The mob wants Singletary?  Give them Singletary.  

 

😂

[ganesh]

49 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Agreed but there were a couple of runs today where if he just had more burst he would’ve had monster gains.  That cutback in the red zone for example.  It’s too bad he’s not faster.

you work to your strengths.  It is on Daboll to make plays that will utilize him

11 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I don't care, or think it matters much, who they hand the ball to from time to time, as long as it's not very often.

 

The mob mafia wants Singletary?  Give them Singletary.  

 

😂

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

I feel like everyone had this take a few weeks ago, so not exactly a revelation. Moss has been garbage this year. Breida can’t be trusted, but should be mixed in a bit.

i actually had the opposite take, and said that we should be featuring Moss (albeit a lot earlier this year). 
 

That has to be the second dumbest thing I have said on this board— the first being that Ryan Leaf would be better than Peyton Manning  

[BADOLBILZ]

54 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Agreed but there were a couple of runs today where if he just had more burst he would’ve had monster gains.  That cutback in the red zone for example.  It’s too bad he’s not faster.

 

 

In fairness..........there probably aren't a dozen RB's who both make that play to get the cutback and then also run past those defenders.     That play should have been over behind the LOS.   If he had those extra wheels that 4.8 career ypa would probably look more like Nick Chubb's career 5.3 ypa.

[947]

I was impressed with the yardage Singletary was getting through contact. Several times, he was stuffed but squirted through to get a couple yards.

[Doc Brown]

I like the idea of keeping two RB's fresh but since we rarely run in anyways I tend to agree with just featuring one prime back.  We need to upgrade though.  I want best o-lineman available and then best RB available in next year's draft.

[Joe Ferguson]

I hope we see the last of Zack Moss.

[PolishPrince]

Been saying this all season, but I got a lot of "But Moss is better in pass pro!!!!"

[BillMafia716ix]

Been saying it for two years now…..

[TheFunPolice]

Yes!

 

Singletary might not be a game breaker, but he's plenty good enough to help you win games and he is by far the best RB we have on this roster

[Norcalbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I like the idea of keeping two RB's fresh but since we rarely run in anyways I tend to agree with just featuring one prime back.  We need to upgrade though.  I want best o-lineman available and then best RB available in next year's draft.

I agree we don't run enough for a rotation to matter. If anything we keep our rbs out of a rhythm. I have always firmly against drafting any rb in the 1st but after this year I could be convinced. The good news is all the way too early mock drafts and rankings are showing almost all rbs falling into the 2nd or later.

[AlfaBill]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I made a case earlier this week that if we are going to be able to run the ball we must commit to one feature RB, and that back clearly should be Devin Singletary.  Our OL and RB's cant find a rhythm if they aren't seeing enough carries.  Use Brieda as a third down receiving back more and few runs to spell Devin, but without question Devin is our best runner.  

 

Daboll finally pulled his head out of his back side this week and ran the ball 22 times with Devin...a handful of that came about because we were chewing clock the second part of the 4th quarter protecting the lead.  But its what we needed to do, and it benefited Devin and our run blocking today allowing us to run the ball more effectively when it mattered.  I realize Devin had a 3.9 ypc, but that was more due to late game obvious runs.  

 

And this was behind a patchwork offensive line with several guys hurt and playing out of position. 

 

I hope they stick to this featuring of Devin as the primary runner and keep getting him 15+ carries per game min.  

Problem is the Bills could use this strategy with a lead. Not from behind. And they don’t often have leads any more. 

[NewEra]

Thank goodness

[SydneyBillsFan]

Devin is a serviceable RB, we just need to upgrade a couple of OLinemen to get more out of him.

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by SydneyBillsFan

[Milanos Milano]

19 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

Devin is a seviceable RB, we just need to upgrade a couple of OLinemen to get more out of him.

 

We still need a true burner, but I’d like to keep Singletary as the #2 back going forward. 

[John from Riverside]

Think the problem with this is a valid one hes too small and he had too many carries whenever he was in college The problem is the competition that he has on the team is not even close

 

[MJS]

It sure helped and I hope they continue to feed him in future games. Give him at least 15 touches a game.

2 hours ago, PolishPrince said:

Been saying this all season, but I got a lot of "But Moss is better in pass pro!!!!"

Singletary is decent in pass protection too, so it shouldn't be a hard decision. 

 

The nice thing about Singletary is he is shifty and he also has good contact balance so he is tough to bring down once he gets a little momentum. Even though he is small he can still break through tackles and get a couple extra yards, sometimes more. The problem is when he is hit immediately. He doesn't have enough sand in the pants to deal with immediate contact.

[Nelius]

Right there with you, it was clear that Devin has been the best back. He looks a step quicker (for Motor) and extremely decisive out there. Shifty. He's not perfect but he's very good and getting slightly better in a lot of different ways year-over-year it seems. 

 

Problem is a lot of AFC teams have +1.5 or so Motor's on their roster so I still want to see this team invest heavily in a back next year. Henry, Taylor, Chubb, Mixon, now NE with Stevenson...the balance is shifting a bit and we're going to need a top-15 RB performance regularly to really make a statement I think. We already know our QB is better, but the AFC has been adapting to Baltimore for years, and you can't get by with middling RB play. Singletary has earned his place. Moss is so sadly disappointing I'm afraid, so a huge need right now is somebody who's at good as Motor at least, but ideally is clearly much better.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

I agree we don't run enough for a rotation to matter. If anything we keep our rbs out of a rhythm. I have always firmly against drafting any rb in the 1st but after this year I could be convinced. The good news is all the way too early mock drafts and rankings are showing almost all rbs falling into the 2nd or later.

I'd only draft one in the 1st round if he's a dual threat and we're picking in the 28 to 32 range.  Then get five years (or six with a franchise tag) out of him with no extension.  Fans fall in love with the player though so it's difficult to commit fully to that.  

[Bookie Man]

Yes. Commit to a running game period. DS seems to be the best option.  

[Thurman#1]

6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I made a case earlier this week that if we are going to be able to run the ball we must commit to one feature RB, and that back clearly should be Devin Singletary.  Our OL and RB's cant find a rhythm if they aren't seeing enough carries.  Use Brieda as a third down receiving back more and few runs to spell Devin, but without question Devin is our best runner.  

 

Daboll finally pulled his head out of his back side this week and ran the ball 22 times with Devin...a handful of that came about because we were chewing clock the second part of the 4th quarter protecting the lead.  But its what we needed to do, and it benefited Devin and our run blocking today allowing us to run the ball more effectively when it mattered.  I realize Devin had a 3.9 ypc, but that was more due to late game obvious runs.  

 

And this was behind a patchwork offensive line with several guys hurt and playing out of position. 

 

I hope they stick to this featuring of Devin as the primary runner and keep getting him 15+ carries per game min.  

 

 

I don't think it matters.

 

He was just fine early in the game before he "got into rhythm" with a lot of work.

 

If they go that way, fine, but IMO not a big deal either way. They've always gone with the hot hand, and that's what they did here.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Dude is extremely consistent and looks better this year when given opportunities. Lifetime 4.8 ypc, and on the season going into today he was at 4.9, Daboll has just failed to properly utilize him consistently. 
 

That’s on 400+ career carries, behind an OL that routinely struggles in run blocking, and no super long runs to skew the numbers.  

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan

[Scott7975]

8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I made a case earlier this week that if we are going to be able to run the ball we must commit to one feature RB, and that back clearly should be Devin Singletary.  Our OL and RB's cant find a rhythm if they aren't seeing enough carries.  Use Brieda as a third down receiving back more and few runs to spell Devin, but without question Devin is our best runner.  

 

Daboll finally pulled his head out of his back side this week and ran the ball 22 times with Devin...a handful of that came about because we were chewing clock the second part of the 4th quarter protecting the lead.  But its what we needed to do, and it benefited Devin and our run blocking today allowing us to run the ball more effectively when it mattered.  I realize Devin had a 3.9 ypc, but that was more due to late game obvious runs.  

 

And this was behind a patchwork offensive line with several guys hurt and playing out of position. 

 

I hope they stick to this featuring of Devin as the primary runner and keep getting him 15+ carries per game min.  

 

Ive been saying all season to keep Moss on the bench.  Singletary is just fine as a back.  He doesn't get opportunity or many holes.  Thats his only problem unless comparing to someone like Henry.

[HOUSE]

I said a lot of things earlier last week

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i actually had the opposite take, and said that we should be featuring Moss (albeit a lot earlier this year). 

Does that view mean you should be COMMITTED? 🤔

[streetkings01]

I still think we trade for CMac or Barkley next year.