Warcodered Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I could be wrong but didn’t we have a QB who played a whole game with bruised ribs? Thad Lewis? I know Justin fields did last year. I mean it takes crazy people and people willing to let them to be crazy sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: People will blame this loss on Tua’s injury, but in my opinion, Brissett gave them a better chance. Miami's Twitter trolls post game are now 99% a split between "didn't count, Tua hurt" and "we won a Super Bowl 20 years before I was born". They forget Tua already lost to our backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Brissett played better than Tua, hands down. Also, what kind of QB can't play with a bruised rib? If that's all it takes you better get a really good back up. Tua will fail in the NFL, as an Alabama fan that's unfortunate, but when a division rival drafts a Bama player they are dead to me 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think the score would have been any different with him in there We would have beat them worse. Brissett is better than Tua and it doesn't seem to be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean I feel like when Brissett was forced to throw it deep he proved this false. Brissett is better at NE style offense with quick timing passes and until Bills started disrupting them he looked like he was auditioning for Tua's job. Plan for Tua is different - grab him and use him like a mop and knock him out of game and it worked. 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I could be wrong but didn’t we have a QB who played a whole game with bruised ribs? Thad Lewis? I know Justin fields did last year. Fitzpatrick did and then he wore a flak jacket in other games. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/28/2907978/ryan-fitzpatrick-rib-injury-buffalo-bills Quote For much of the off-season, with news reports circulating that Buffalo Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick played the last nine games of the 2011 season with two cracked ribs, head coach Chan Gailey and GM Buddy Nix have downplayed the story, claiming that Fitzpatrick was healthy enough to play. Fitzpatrick did not show up on the injury report in that stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: but if he can't push the ball downfield better to develop a guy who possibly can. The question is who can they develop who can push the ball down field, because it sure as hell isn’t Tua, and I think we all know that…, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBBills Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Here we go again. First Fitz now this guy. even they know Tua sucks Not like the team made Tua a captain... The writing is on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Dolphin fans should be happy that Brisset might get a look now. Tua is absolutely terrible. His arm is not strong enough to play in the nfl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Tua looked completely lost in the first two series. Some of those hits were on him, especially the one where Parker was covered as his 1st read and he couldn’t figure out where to go and got blasted. I kind of feel bad for Tua because it seems like Miami never really went all in with him. Everything really seems to add up that Flores and the organization, are not 100% behind him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: People will blame this loss on Tua’s injury, but in my opinion, Brissett gave them a better chance. No joke. We wouldve won this game 50-0 if Tua played. JB looked like an NFL QB. He was put in a tough spot. ive said this repeatedly. Numerous people have said this repeatedly: there is nothing special about tua. I have absolutely zero fear when hes at QB. The dolphins would be more dangerous with JB under center for the rest of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I don't know about you guys, but I just don't see it in Tua. And that's not even me being a Bills homer. Mac Jones is 2 starts in and is already Better than him IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think the score would have been any different with him in there Disagree. I think Tua would have thrown a pick 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Brissett played better than Tua, hands down. Also, what kind of QB can't play with a bruised rib? If that's all it takes you better get a really good back up. Tua will fail in the NFL, as an Alabama fan that's unfortunate, but when a division rival drafts a Bama player they are dead to me 😂 They haven't confirmed exactly what the injury is, they're checking for cartilage damage. Someone could play through a fracture in one instance, but be completely out of action from a bruise in another. Chest injuries are weird like that. I had a bruised rib and had alternating periods of feeling fine and being in incredible pain barely able to breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 He got absolutely hammered...and if I didn't know any better, I would have thought that was the play from Remember the Titans that got Ray kicked off the team for not blocking. The offensive lineman didn't even get a finger on Epenesa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I don't know about you guys, but I just don't see it in Tua. And that's not even me being a Bills homer. Mac Jones is 2 starts in and is already Better than him IMO I think it was Bulldog on WGR who said he got a little worried when he heard Tua was out because it might mean they have more of a chance - that about covers it for me as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I’m sure we’ll hear tomorrow it was all about Tua out why the Bills won 35-0, but there was no difference in the play with either QB. I hope he heals well, as I don’t wish injuries on anyone. I can’t imagine Fins fans watching Herbert (I know they lost) and thinking we could’ve had him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, JohnNord said: Tua looked completely lost in the first two series. Some of those hits were on him, especially the one where Parker was covered as his 1st read and he couldn’t figure out where to go and got blasted. I kind of feel bad for Tua because it seems like Miami never really went all in with him. Everything really seems to add up that Flores and the organization, are not 100% behind him. i doubt it’s Flores but as far as the rest of the org goes of course they've given up on him already and were never all in on him. you can go ahead and read the reports on how Ross pushed Tua on Flores and his staff and then immediately started angling for Watson once his time in Houston seemed done. it’s sad i know some die hard 15+ year dolphin fans and it’s Ross man. Ross messes everything up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, JohnNord said: Tua looked completely lost in the first two series. Some of those hits were on him, especially the one where Parker was covered as his 1st read and he couldn’t figure out where to go and got blasted. I kind of feel bad for Tua because it seems like Miami never really went all in with him. Everything really seems to add up that Flores and the organization, are not 100% behind him. Totally agree with the first part. Not sure what to make of the 2nd. What else could Miami have done to be “all in” on Tua? They drafted and picked up several offensive weapons - including Waddle - a perfect fit for Tua. They have drafted a ton of Oline men to try and protect him. They continued to start him last year - even when it was obvious that the team responded better to Fitz. They had a chance to draft another top flight QB this year - as high as #3 and chose not to - showing huge faith in Tua. I would agree that the owner has been a bit weird as it seems last year - he really wanted Tua in the draft and then to play and he has moved on to wanting Watson now, but Flores and the GM both seem to have been all in on Tua - especially this year. Edited September 20, 2021 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Totally agree with the first part. Not sure what to make of the 2nd. What else could Miami have done to be “all in” on Tua? They drafted and picked up several offensive weapons - including Waddle - a perfect fit for Tua. They have drafted a ton of Oline men to try and protect him. They continued to start him last year - even when it was obvious that the team responded better to Fitz. They had a chance to draft another top flight QB this year - as high as #3 and chose not to - showing huge faith in Tua. I would agree that the owner has been a bit weird as it seems last year - he really wanted Tua in the draft and then to play and he has moved on to wanting Watson now, but Flores and the GM both seem to have been all in on Tua - especially this year. I think Miami never really had much of a long term vision from the start - I think this is largely on Flores. Last season should have either been about making the playoffs with Fitzpatrick or developing Tua. Flores tried to do both and ended up finishing the year with neither goal. I think the way the QB position was handled in 2020 did him a disservice. Then it seems like Miami was at least entertaining the thought of replacing him, so much that it took Flores weeks to make a strong statement of support. Even the offense they have running this season with 2 OC’s just seems a little awkward. It just doesn’t seems like the organization is very confident in him. I would have a lot of questions as well - but they were the ones who drafted him at 5th overall a year ago! Edited September 20, 2021 by JohnNord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Here we go again. First Fitz now this guy. even they know Tua sucks Bless his little heart. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnNord said: I think Miami never really had much of a long term vision from the start - I think this is largely on Flores. Last season should have either been about making the playoffs with Fitzpatrick or developing Tua. Flores tried to do both and ended up finishing the year with neither goal. I think the way the QB position was handled in 2020 did him a disservice. Then it seems like Miami was at least entertaining the thought of replacing him, so much that it took Flores weeks to make a strong statement of support. Even the offense they have running this season with 2 OC’s just seems a little awkward. It just doesn’t seems like the organization is very confident in him. I would have a lot of questions as well - but they were the ones who drafted him at 5th overall a year ago! A fair question is what does Miami do well? Their defense is decent but they get all sorts of fluky turnovers you have to wonder how good. They don’t run the ball great, they have a weak passing game. what about Miami screams “contenders”? I don’t see it at all. In year 3 for Flores, that is not a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Glad it’s nothing more serious. That said, I think McKenzie should add “Tua’s Bruised Ribs” to the menu at his new south beach BBQ place. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 10 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: I’m sure we’ll hear tomorrow it was all about Tua out why the Bills won 35-0, but there was no difference in the play with either QB. I hope he heals well, as I don’t wish injuries on anyone. I can’t imagine Fins fans watching Herbert (I know they lost) and thinking we could’ve had him. I think they did better with Brissett. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I think they did better with Brissett. Brissett did not look out-of-place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 That poor guy is going to get so shot up with pain killing meds before the next game and then they'll see if he can actually throw a football. I hope he stays out for a week or 2. I can feel the pain through the keyboard. Bruised ribs, cracked ribs, broken ribs absolutely suck. Every breath is painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Brissett played better than Tua, hands down. Also, what kind of QB can't play with a bruised rib? If that's all it takes you better get a really good back up. Tua will fail in the NFL, as an Alabama fan that's unfortunate, but when a division rival drafts a Bama player they are dead to me 😂 I'm not gonna judge the guy on whether or not he can play with a certain injury. It's hard to judge how bad it really is from the stands. But Tua took a pounding in part because of his lack of pre-snap awareness. It's like he sees the TE or the Back coming in and the DB doesn't move, and he goes "oh, OK, gonna be Zone coverage!" but the lightbulb doesn't flicker "waitaminute, if that guy is coming now he's unblocked, we need someone blocking him or I need to account for him" 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Bless his little heart. We all know how that translates. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Tests on Tagovailoa's ribs gives Miami hope he plays Week 3 https://sports.yahoo.com/tests-tagovailoas-ribs-gives-miami-201019186.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Tests on Tagovailoa's ribs gives Miami hope he plays Week 3 https://sports.yahoo.com/tests-tagovailoas-ribs-gives-miami-201019186.html happy belated birthday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Bruised ribs hurt as much as broken ribs. I'm sure just breathing today puts Tua in pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Awww Tua bwuissed his wibs... Your teammates didn't name you a captain for a reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eball Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Epenesa's new nickname...#ribcrusher 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 7:28 PM, JohnNord said: Tua looked completely lost in the first two series. Some of those hits were on him, especially the one where Parker was covered as his 1st read and he couldn’t figure out where to go and got blasted. I kind of feel bad for Tua because it seems like Miami never really went all in with him. Everything really seems to add up that Flores and the organization, are not 100% behind him. Absolutely, proof of what you say is the Fins O line, with all the picks those guys have had in just the last two drafts…, they have done a “Gase job” on Tua in their own way, no O line spells the doom for a young QB,(unless your Josh Allen) not that Tua had a chance in hell, being so small, physically limited, and fragile. Is what it is, to bad for the little guy, but that’s why he got a college education as his fall back…, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Absolutely, proof of what you say is the Fins O line, with all the picks those guys have had in just the last two drafts…, they have done a “Gase job” on Tua in their own way, no O line spells the doom for a young QB,(unless your Josh Allen) not that Tua had a chance in hell, being so small, physically limited, and fragile. Is what it is, to bad for the little guy, but that’s why he got a college education as his fall back…, They are trying to get better at offensive line. 2 years ago they picked up Austin Jackson in round 1 and he has started 15 games. I believe he was injured 3 years ago they got Deiter had has played 34 games. The problem has not been their draft... its been what they have done in FA and when you have so few quality players in FA with a really bad O'Line, it is hard to work out those kinks. We got lucky with getting Morse. he stays healthy and keeps playing the way he has we are fine... but like Miami there are certain positions we struggle with on the line as well. The difference is we got this mobile QB that can move around in the pocket and can deliver. Half the problem is TUA! the other half is the offensive line... The Question will remain if they give Tua another year to build? if so then expect a big line draft out of Miami next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: They are trying to get better at offensive line. 2 years ago they picked up Austin Jackson in round 1 and he has started 15 games. I believe he was injured 3 years ago they got Deiter had has played 34 games. The problem has not been their draft... its been what they have done in FA and when you have so few quality players in FA with a really bad O'Line, it is hard to work out those kinks. We got lucky with getting Morse. he stays healthy and keeps playing the way he has we are fine... but like Miami there are certain positions we struggle with on the line as well. The difference is we got this mobile QB that can move around in the pocket and can deliver. Half the problem is TUA! the other half is the offensive line... The Question will remain if they give Tua another year to build? if so then expect a big line draft out of Miami next year They've picked 7 Olineman since Flores has been there. Part of the problem is their drafting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: They've picked 7 Olineman since Flores has been there. Part of the problem is their drafting. 7 oh really? and how many years has Flores been with Miami? you sure about this one? cause I am wondering weather or not if you have a clue at all on this topic. Flores has been a Miami HC since 2019.. You think Flores picked 7 offensive lineman in the draft since then? your clueless sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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