UConn James Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tom-brady-stands-defense-every-hard-hit-penalty Quote "The quarterback messes up, doesn’t see the blitzer, or the line screws up. I don’t know what happened, the quarterback or the lineman on offense. The defensive player comes in and hits him hard and they throw a flag on the defense." Quote [N]ow, every hard hit is a penalty on the defense. So I feel like they penalize defensive players for offensive mistakes." I mean, this is spot-on and the league has bent over backwards trying to increase scoring by making so many rules against defense and in the name of protecting players, but it’s quite rich coming from a guy who has spent his career kvetching to the refs to throw a flag after every incomplete pass and has benefited from some seriously soft 15-yarders for so much as touching The Brady. Edited September 3, 2021 by UConn James 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I'm sure he feels different when he's on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) Give me a few seconds to check for flying pigs. Edited September 3, 2021 by chris heff 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Flutie said he almost retired from throwing a bad pass to thurman i believe that got him hurt. Warner said the same after the Boldin face breaking incident. He's right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Flutie said he almost retired from throwing a bad pass to thurman i believe that got him hurt. Warner said the same after the Boldin face breaking incident. He's right I think I remember that Flutie pass - I think it was in the first series of the opening game against the Colts in '99. I was 9 years old, but I remember that play pretty vividly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 He’s not wrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, UConn James said: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tom-brady-stands-defense-every-hard-hit-penalty I mean, this is spot-on and the league has bent over backwards trying to increase scoring by making so many rules against defense and in the name of protecting players, but it’s quite rich coming from a guy who has spent his career kvetching to the refs to throw a flag after every incomplete pass and has benefited from some seriously soft 15-yarders for so much as touching The Brady. Your right! Offense is more exciting to the casual fan thus all the handcuffing of the defense. Hell people were debating if the KC-NO game a few years back was the greatest of all time and the final score was like 51-45. Sigh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Unless when he's playing right lol. Because he has cried for BS flags a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Unless when he's playing right lol. Because he has cried for BS flags a lot Again, isn’t that what every QB should be doing trying to get the advantage for his team? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Tommy Boy, with the old reverse psychology. Nice try, but I am onto you! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, UConn James said: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tom-brady-stands-defense-every-hard-hit-penalty I mean, this is spot-on and the league has bent over backwards trying to increase scoring by making so many rules against defense and in the name of protecting players, but it’s quite rich coming from a guy who has spent his career kvetching to the refs to throw a flag after every incomplete pass and has benefited from some seriously soft 15-yarders for so much as touching The Brady. Yeah the refs definitely err on the side of the offense, especially when it comes to protecting the QBs. Literally of a defender tackles him and lands on him with his body it's a penalty...how can you teach a guy to tackle like that?? There was a player within the last few years who literally tore his ACL trying to make sure his body didn't land on the QB when he walked him...that's not right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 He’s 100% right and he’s 100% disingenuous and he’s 100% the greatest and he’s 100% fraudulent. 4 2 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) Why don't we just tell new QBs for the first seven years of their career what the defensive coverages are and where the blitz is coming from. Then the refs won't have to throw flags because the QBs will know exactly where to throw it? It is simple, right Tom? Edited September 3, 2021 by buffalostu2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I'm sure he feels different when he's on the field. I mean you would take the flag also if you were QB and ref helps, but that doesn't take away from what he said is spot on and has hurt the sport. 20 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He’s 100% right and he’s 100% disingenuous and he’s 100% the greatest and he’s 100% fraudulent. 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He’s 100% right and he’s 100% disingenuous and he’s 100% the greatest and he’s 100% fraudulent. Love it. I was just about to post something similar but you encapsulated it perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He’s 100% right and he’s 100% disingenuous and he’s 100% the greatest and he’s 100% fraudulent. 400% 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, corta765 said: I mean you would take the flag also if you were QB and ref helps, but that doesn't take away from what he said is spot on and has hurt the sport. 100% I don't disagree at all with what he said but the fact is he's one of the big reasons why the rules have changed how they have. They literally made a rule because of him going out for the season. I know he didn't make the rule but the nfl had to protect its cash cow. Edited September 3, 2021 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimtoga Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Brady is biting the hand that feeds him and also created him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I think you'll find he's talking about Tampa's defense 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 He's right, of course, but does seem just a little self serving given the aggressive nature of Tampa's D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Flutie said he almost retired from throwing a bad pass to thurman i believe that got him hurt. Warner said the same after the Boldin face breaking incident. He's right Wait… I thought Flutie almost retired Thurman by throwing a pass that he said wasn’t his fault, if Thurman was taller and slower he wouldn’t have gotten obliterated trying to catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 54 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He’s 100% right and he’s 100% disingenuous and he’s 100% the greatest and he’s 100% fraudulent. I usually go right to 100% douchebag 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I don't disagree at all with what he said but the fact is he's one of the big reasons why the rules have changed how they have. They literally made a rule because of him going out for the season. I know he didn't make the rule but the nfl had to protect its cash cow. The NFL made the rule because of him, Manning, & a few other QBs. Be honest the NFL treats QBs as high value items and losing them for a season is a major hurt ratings wise. Like you said protect the cash cow. The thing that is interesting is when it comes to non QBs and how he views that even they are more protected. To me it goes back to 2010 when they adjusted the head shot rules and big hits. I distinctly remember Whitner held up on a hit against the Ravens that a year earlier would've crushed the guy and stopped the TD in the middle of the endzone. It is a tough balance to protect players especially with head hits, but it does feel its swung too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: I'm sure he feels different when he's on the field. Not when he's on the sideline and the other 11 are out there. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Again, isn’t that what every QB should be doing trying to get the advantage for his team? I sometimes get grief as he is now in my second city which is very odd, but he does appreciably complain more to the refs than many QB’s (for example, JA17). I don’t have the same problem with TB as several on the board. He currently is the GOAT and I don’t see almost anyone else ever playing in the SB as often as he did for the last 20 years. A sidebar is this board has been active all day. Edited September 3, 2021 by machine gun kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 There will come a day when any contact with the QB will be a penalty. "Touching the QB, 15 yards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Now that he's on the tail-end of his career he wants defenses to get tougher so Qbs won't have a chance to match his SB record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 He just meant on his teams defense 29 minutes ago, HOUSE said: There will come a day when any contact with the QB will be a penalty. "Touching the QB, 15 yards" 5 for inadvertent touching, 15 for inappropriate touching 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 As much as I loathe this dude, I've been able to somewhat enjoy him in the NFC. 100% Disingenuous here, but he's nor wrong. He never woulda said this in NE or that "you want this mf*er" comment there. I'm a football fan first, before a Bills fan, and its been fun to see Marcia let his hair down and enjoy it some. Dudes the GOAT he's earned it. 🍺🍻 now here's to hoping he gets smacked in the mouth early and often this season 🍻🍺 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 One, he's absolutely right; and two, I don't think he's complaining about it at all. He's saying that's how it is. And then when he goes out there he milks it for all it's worth. I get the feeling that like your grandfather or elderly uncle, he's a lot more comfortable these days saying exactly what he thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 This is a joke. Marcia gets better protection from the refs than the President does from the Secret Service. Not only is he a cheater, he's a hypocrite as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I remember a play a few years ago Bill vs Patriots, Brady throws a interception, while half heartedly moving in the direction of the return a Bills player pushes his shoulder. It wasn’t much of a push and at that point he is no longer a QB he is a defender. Result was a 15 yard roughing call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 "The quarterback messes up, doesn’t see the blitzer, or the line screws up. I don’t know what happened, the quarterback or the lineman on offense. The defensive player comes in and hits him hard and they throw a flag on the defense." This is almost exactly what happened to Boogie Basham versus the Bears, QB was inexperienced, never saw him coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I don't care what anybody thinks, Tom Brady is the GOAT in any professional sport and his greatness transcends anything we'll ever see in our lifetimes. In a weird way I think he's going to be missed by a lot of fans across the NFL spectrum and don't think the game will ever be the same again no matter how much Mahomes and other heir apparents are hyped up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: "The quarterback messes up, doesn’t see the blitzer, or the line screws up. I don’t know what happened, the quarterback or the lineman on offense. The defensive player comes in and hits him hard and they throw a flag on the defense." This is almost exactly what happened to Boogie Basham versus the Bears, QB was inexperienced, never saw him coming. Wasn't it Smith? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 This is so that once he retires in 8 years nobody will break his records right? 🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, corta765 said: The NFL made the rule because of him, Manning, & a few other QBs. Be honest the NFL treats QBs as high value items and losing them for a season is a major hurt ratings wise. Like you said protect the cash cow. The thing that is interesting is when it comes to non QBs and how he views that even they are more protected. To me it goes back to 2010 when they adjusted the head shot rules and big hits. I distinctly remember Whitner held up on a hit against the Ravens that a year earlier would've crushed the guy and stopped the TD in the middle of the endzone. It is a tough balance to protect players especially with head hits, but it does feel its swung too far. I'm only going off of memory, which is very suspect I'll grant you, but prior to the Brady injury, the last time I remember a qb getting taken out for a season/career was Theismann. That role was put in place because of his injury, the same way the tuck rule was put into place because of him. In regard to the defensive stuff, absolutely agree. The only thing they made fair was being able to push a player out of bounds if he's going up for a catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, MJS said: Wasn't it Smith? Yes and that is precisely the play that Brady was referring to. Basham had also received a roughing the passer penalty but I don’t think that is what Brady was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Wasn't it Smith? Maybe I got it wrong, I think you are righ,t where his helmet flew off. Yeah they flagged it, it was inevitable that was going to be flagged by he Rookie "deserved" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 hours ago, The Wiz said: I'm sure he feels different when he's on the field. I suspect he feels differently when he’s on the sideline….and HIS defense is on the field! It’s all about Tommy, after all. What’s best for Tommy? Let HIS defense play the way the game used to be played, but protect HIM like a little china doll! Can’t have it both ways, Tommy. Or…..maybe he can? It’s the newest version of “Jordan Rules”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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