njbuff Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? 1 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I think Beane went out and got Trubiski as an insurance policy for a championship run this season if Josh goes down for 3-4 games. If Trubisky can go .500 in any starts he has this season, I think we still make the playoffs and a healthy Josh can hopefully step back in and make the playoff run. I don't think Beane will give up that insurance policy for any one year rental. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 If Stafford goes down we can trade Jake Fromm to the Rams for Jalen Ramsey. If you're going to dream a pipe dream, go big or go home. 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Ah yes, I'm starting to connect the dots 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: If Stafford goes down we can trade Jake Fromm to the Rams for Jalen Ramsey. If you're going to dream a pipe dream, go big or go home. Did I say Trubisky alone in a trade proposal? Learn to read. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Out there somewhere is a starting corner that will become available in July. Knowing Beane, YOU will need to google his name after he is traded here.. Take it to the Bank 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think Beane went out and got Trubiski as an insurance policy for a championship run this season if Josh goes down for 3-4 games. If Trubisky can go .500 in any starts he has this season, I think we still make the playoffs and a healthy Josh can hopefully step back in and make the playoff run. I don't think Beane will give up that insurance policy for any one year rental. This. I think we were closer than anyone knew to Josh missing about 4 games this season (in which we went 2-2) I think Josh was still out there because injured Josh > > Barkley and with Barkley we maybe go 0-4 or 1-3 Solve CB#2 issue some other way. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Did I say Trubisky alone in a trade proposal? Learn to read. just neglected to mention the high draft pick and that there’s no reason to think trubisky would be an upgrade for them in any way. 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This. I think we were closer than anyone knew to Josh missing about 4 games this season (in which we went 2-2) I think Josh was still out there because injured Josh > > Barkley and with Barkley we maybe go 0-4 or 1-3 Solve CB#2 issue some other way. agreed that he was more beat up than ever acknowledged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 New Orleans would have to give up all their draft picks next year to even take a sniff at Mitch, if we give them the next Josh Allen. and if we want to take Lattimore off their hands. Otherwise, no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? Do you play Madden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I think that having a solid backup QB is pretty important to Beane, and even if he could get Lattimore on the roster next season, he knows the cost of keeping him would be prohibitive. He might be willing to pay a good #2 CB, I don't think he wants to try and manage the salaries of 2 #1 CBs. And I don't think he's that interested in a one year solution as a #2 CB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Everything is fine as is. Wallace, with Jackson support (or vice versa) is just fine!. Like in Bball, we have a "help" defense too. The pros we have all over the field know when to lean a certain way. Go Bills! 2021. Make it a happen. My dad only has a couple years left! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I know the OP mentioned it’s not just Trubisky alone in this trade scenario, but why would the Saints want Trubisky? If Hill and Winston fail to make the Saints winners, it’s hard to believe Trubisky will. I think Trubisky was a great signing. We needed an upgrade over Barkley, but I don’t think Trubisky is any better than Winston or Hill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, njbuff said: Did I say Trubisky alone in a trade proposal? Learn to read. No offense, but I think you lost the right to make a comment like this after making this thread. Trubisky “in a package” for Lattimore. That would signify that Trubisky is the centerpiece of the trade for the Saints. What’s “a package”? Do you really think the Saints would want to trade one of their trade chips for a Qb that busted “in a package”? Maybe if it’s Trubisky and a 2nd rd pick.....which means they’re trading Lattimore for a 2nd rd pick and a busted backup qb. this is nonsense imo. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? If our first and second picks contribute, we'll be fine at CB. Just need a consistent pass rush to help them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I know the OP mentioned it’s not just Trubisky alone in this trade scenario, but why would the Saints want Trubisky? If Hill and Winston fail to make the Saints winners, it’s hard to believe Trubisky will. I think Trubisky was a great signing. We needed an upgrade over Barkley, but I don’t think Trubisky is any better than Winston or Hill. I would say that if the decision-making leading to too many picks can be tamed (and Fitzpatrick did manage this), Winston might be an upgrade over Trubisky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I like Levi quite a bit. On a real topic here, how much blame did he have in that KC game? Everyone was an issue that game in the secondary that night including the lb's, but I don't remember him doing anything abysmal. Tre looked like crap too but that may have been bc he had too much responsibilities. Anyone able to shed light on this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think Beane went out and got Trubiski as an insurance policy for a championship run this season if Josh goes down for 3-4 games. If Trubisky can go .500 in any starts he has this season, I think we still make the playoffs and a healthy Josh can hopefully step back in and make the playoff run. I don't think Beane will give up that insurance policy for any one year rental. This is spot on. I was talking about this less then 24 hours before we signed Trubiski thinking we needed a .500 qb backup. He could be trade bait for just before trade deadline but not a second before. spot on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I thought this was a Dane Jackson thread. Boy was I wrong. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: just neglected to mention the high draft pick and that there’s no reason to think trubisky would be an upgrade for them in any way. agreed that he was more beat up than ever acknowledged The whole team was beat up more than they acknowledged with lack of OTAs, preseason, etc., being a factor. If some of the rookies got more time working with training staff and coaches in preseason they may have been able to contribute more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said: Everything is fine as is. Wallace, with Jackson support (or vice versa) is just fine!. Like in Bball, we have a "help" defense too. The pros we have all over the field know when to lean a certain way. Go Bills! 2021. Make it a happen. My dad only has a couple years left! I would like to see an upgrade. But whether or not we upgrade, we need depth - Wallace played because Josh Norman started the season injured, Jackson played because both Wallace and White were injured at different points. I think Beane probably has a list of names he feels might be cut, or a list of the 50-ish remaining FA CB he is interested in (but only at the right price). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, njbuff said: Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? Pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? If the Saints struggle this upcoming season, they are going to sell Lattimore for a lot more than Trubisky lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 The CB problems seems to only be here on TBD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 14 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? Winston has shown he can throw 30plus TD passes If he cut his Int's to 15 he would be a decent starter. Sean P has been coaching him and against him so he knows what he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 16 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? Hows about we worry about White regaining his form? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think Beane went out and got Trubiski as an insurance policy for a championship run this season if Josh goes down for 3-4 games. If Trubisky can go .500 in any starts he has this season, I think we still make the playoffs and a healthy Josh can hopefully step back in and make the playoff run. I don't think Beane will give up that insurance policy for any one year rental. agree 100%, Inigo. One step further, but in the past is I think they would have liked the opportunity to maybe have Josh rest after the Raiders game, but couldn’t. honestly, f’d up that the raiders may have arguable cost us home field advantage. terrible time for The Arm to be strapped up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 17 hours ago, njbuff said: What if Winston and Hill struggle mightily for the Saints? The Saints might not able to sign Marshon Lattimore? The Bills could end up dealing Trubisky to NO in a package for Lattimore. I realize that bringing in Lattimore would be just a mercenary hire as I don't see how the Bills could afford to re-sign him, but the Bills are going for a championship. Is this doable? Would you do this if you were McBeane? Or is this a total pipe dream? It’s a pipe dream. If a decent or better team with no viable backup loses its starting QB for the year we might be able to get a pick for Trubisky. It should be noted that we would by no means be the only team who could trade such a backup. But no team is trading a quality starting CB to us during the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 16 hours ago, HOUSE said: Out there somewhere is a starting corner that will become available in July. Knowing Beane, YOU will need to google his name after he is traded here.. Take it to the Bank It is worth mentioning that there’s a couple out there now in Sherman and Nelson. It doesn’t seem like interest is all that high on the Bills side so I really think we roll with pretty much what we have now. Obviously if we can get a deal on somebody we take it, but that’s not very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: From the OP: Did I say Trubisky alone in a trade proposal? Learn to read. What package? Elaborate. Also learn to write your views clearly. Saying a package leaves things wide open to anything & you deserve al the flames you are getting. Edited May 23, 2021 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rc2catch Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Wasn’t the whole point of Mitch coming here to rebuild his value and gain some great coaching behind the scenes? He doesn’t really have any value unless Josh gets hurt and Mitch plays and flashes. Trubisky could of landed a better spot where the path to playtime was easier. He’s here to learn and test free agency again for better opportunities. Beane could shop him but Fromm would have to be extremely impressive in practice and behind the scenes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 You solve CB#2 with pass rush. Wallace is fine and Jackson may push him for snaps. CB#2 is not even in the top 5 worries on defense. 1. Pass rush from the new edge players 2. Pass rush from Oliver 3. Edmunds improving in all facets of the game 4. Run stopping from 1-tech 5. Milano staying healthy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I don't understand the dissatisfaction for Levi Wallace on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 18 hours ago, HOUSE said: Out there somewhere is a starting corner that will become available in July. Knowing Beane, YOU will need to google his name after he is traded here.. Take it to the Bank That is a good prediction. Just now, Beast said: I don't understand the dissatisfaction for Levi Wallace on this board. He isnt going to the HOF, and some fans here aren't happy unless the Bills have a HOFer at every position. McDermott isnt about stars. He's about role players. Wallace is a solid role player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: You solve CB#2 with pass rush. Wallace is fine and Jackson may push him for snaps. CB#2 is not even in the top 5 worries on defense. 1. Pass rush from the new edge players 2. Pass rush from Oliver 3. Edmunds improving in all facets of the game 4. Run stopping from 1-tech 5. Milano staying healthy Well said. I couldn’t agree more. Remember we had Leodis McKelvin? How bad he was in coverage? As they added pieces to the D and Schwartz got that pass rush looking amazing, leodis looked like an all pro when Hughes, Mario, dareus and Kyle were getting home every play. After that he was basically never heard from again. Pass rush will 100% solve any issue with corner play we have, and on a side note pass rush will have Edmunds and Milano looking like 2 of the best cover linebackers as well. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Pipe dream. Crack pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Most definitely a pipe dream. Speaking of pipes, let me have some of what's in yours 🔥🌿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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