So, what's the plan at RB?

[ChicagoRic]

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by ChicagoRic

[NewEra]

McBeane is sold on what we have.  What we have is the plan

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Ummm Breida.

Who may beat out all of em. 

[Brennan Huff]

We have Moss for 3 more years

Singletary for 2 more years

Breida for 1 year

 

Im pretty sure that’s accurate 

[Green Lightning]

Apparently Brieda is the speed back. Seems McBeane is happy with what we have.

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again. 

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

You forget Breida. I think it's going to be a running by committee approach like last season. Yet Breida could be active game days when Yeldon wasn't since does give us an added speed dimension. I'm also looking for Devin to bounce back to get about 600 yards rushing yards.

Edited May 3, 2021 by The Jokeman

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I was very impressed by 35 as well. Would love to see more of him. 

I think judging by the draft they think the oline may be at fault, partially. 

[Brennan Huff]

Just now, Buffalo619 said:

They played it safe in the draft and it costs them. They are certainly not sold, they will be finding a RB as a stop gap for the year. 

Link?

[aceman_16]

7 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

I THINK it is just the start of May.

[TBBills]

8 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

I think the plan is to not worry if you are sold or not.

[jahnyc]

I would not be shocked if they brought in another veteran RB.  Could be someone like Bell, although I am not sure he has anything left or would be interested in playing for the Bills.

[Rew]

Isn't singletary (or moss) like the top rated blocking rb in the league?  I'll take "solid but not exciting" backs if they can help to open up the pass game like they did last year.

[Comebackkid]

Just now, Rew said:

Isn't singletary (or moss) like the top rated blocking rb in the league?  I'll take "solid but not exciting" backs if they can help to open up the pass game like they did last year.

singletary was ok but moss was excellent.   

[BigBuff423]

In the limited role the Bills assigned Moss, he started to find his way as the season wore on until his injury. Keep in mind, a Rookie with no OTAs, no normal training camp, meetings were virtual up to camp and no Pre-Season games - it takes time. Then Feliciano was injured for the first five or six games, Ford was in and out and then season ending injured and Williams was learning a new Offense…maybe we can pump the brakes on the RB panic? 
 

I think Moss is going to be key, Breida is going to impress in his assigned role and Singletary will have a specified type of play or plays and the Offensive Line will get better just by a more normal Off-Season and continuity while getting healthier and ANOTHER year of the same Offense. 
 

Edit: that’s not even considering A. Williams who could be the next Arian Foster in terms of UDFA that really impresses. All the same Rookie issues for Moss were true for him and balled out against a highly rated Miami Defense when they needed the win…

Edited May 3, 2021 by BigBuff423

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

Line is often overmatched when run blocking. Doesn't matter who the  back is... I like a Moss Bieda combo but there have to be holes to run through. Dodging the first tackler  behind the line or  in the hole wont get it done.

[Comebackkid]

1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said:

And don’t assume McBeane is “sold”. 
 

 

lol

if McBeane was that worried...he would do something about it....  so still, you being sold or not is irrelevant.   

[CaptnCoke11]

Sign Alvin Kamara he’s a free agent right?  If not let’s trade a 7th for Derrick Henry 

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

They played it safe in the draft and it costs them. They are certainly not sold, they will be finding a RB as a stop gap for the year. 

So you think that we’re going to acquire a different RB that will be our lead back or split carries?

 

I think they may sign someone on the cheap to compete, but come the season, it’ll be Moss, Breida, Motor (and possibly Antonio Williams) with almost all of our RB carries

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said:

Line is often overmatched when run blocking. Doesn't matter who the  back is... I like a Moss Bieda combo but there have to be holes to run through. Dodging the first tackler  behind the line or  in the hole wont get it done.

 

It’s not right or fair to blame the RB’s entirely for the lack of production. They need somewhere to go and it got worse as the year went on. Motor averaged like 4.8 ypc as a rookie. He’s not the only problem here. 

[streetkings01]

I’m actually cool with our group of backs. Breida adds that homerun threat we were looking for in the backfield. Our offense goes thru Josh and the receivers.....I never got the feeling we were drafting a RB after drafting one 2 straight seasons.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Block better. 

Replace Morse in 2022

[Malazan]

33 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

You being 'sold' on guys does not change what Beane's plan is..

 

This is gonna hurt, but better someone tell you now.. you being sold on anything matters to no one.

[Freddie's Dead]

Two words.  CWade.

[4thandGoal]

39 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

Doesnt matter if you are sold on what we have--- BB is sold on our RBs and thats what we have going into the season. No FA RB will do anything for us so I am ok with our RB.. 

[Doc]

I think it will be Breida, Moss and Antonio Williams.  I think that Motor's pass drop against the Chefs was a Yeldon-doghouse play.

[billsbackto81]

As sad as it may sound, there will be RBs released that will be better than what we have and have acquired so far. 

 

So... No worries.

[JESSEFEFFER]

I like them both and was pleased with what Moss showed his rookie year.  His pass blocking was superb, his catch rate was solid and he had zero fumbles.  Both break tackles well and that's more important to me.  I thought that the Bills allowed too much penetration on their outside runs hence my willingness to accept scheme and poor run blocking as bigger parts of the problem.  Moss had turf toe and Mongo had a torn pectoral which hurt the run game in various ways.  I think the running game will be better this year.

[Southern_Bills]

Hand them the ball, that's the plan. I'd assume.

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

Honestly, I feel pretty good with our group. Moss is a solid power runner, Singletary is elusive and a great pass blocker, Breida is quick to the edge and a good receiver. Maybe Antonio Williams will have a great preseason and earn a spot.

 

I felt that the O-line just got no push last year and I'm hoping some improvements are made to the blocking scheme. I think having Feliciano and Ford healthy all year could give us a boost on the ground. 

[Protocal69]

5 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I like them both and was pleased with what Moss showed his rookie year.  His pass blocking was superb, his catch rate was solid and he had zero fumbles.  Both break tackles well and that's more important to me.  I thought that the Bills allowed too much penetration on their outside runs hence my willingness to accept scheme and poor run blocking as bigger parts of the problem.  Moss had turf toe and Mongo had a torn pectoral which hurt the run game in various ways.  I think the running game will be better this year.

Moss had a fumble last year. I very bad fumble

[Buffalo_Stampede]

[Just Joshin']

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

McBeane is sold on what we have.  What we have is the plan

Was obvious before the draft and more so post draft.

[Boxcar]

1 hour ago, Buffalo619 said:

They played it safe in the draft and it costs them. They are certainly not sold, they will be finding a RB as a stop gap for the year. 

How did they play it safe by taking almost strictly boom or bust prospects?

[BillsShredder83]

2 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Moss had a fumble last year. I very bad fumble

Yeah later in the season, the game after a really good game. Was inside the 10, can't remember who against. I remembered thinking he was poised for a breakout, and got in the doghouse early

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

Yeah later in the season, the game after a really good game. Was inside the 10, can't remember who against. I remembered thinking he was poised for a breakout, and got in the doghouse early

 

Think you might be referring to 49ers game where he fumbled early

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said:

Right now the Bills have:

 

Singletary: I'm not sold on him.  

Moss: Also not sold on him.

Antonio Williams: Looked ok in spot duty, but only 12 carries.  Can he block?  Not sold on him.

Wade: Intriguing non football guy. Fast but old and still learning the game. Likely stuck on the practice squad again.

Breida:  JAG.

Taiwan Jones: Less than JAG

 

So far no UDFA RB's added.  

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

3 headed rushing attack spearheaded by a pissed off, driven Motor Singletary who is tuned up and out to shut every doubter up.

 

Moss is an elite pass blocking RB with soft hands.

 

There might be 3 running backs in the NFL faster than Brieda 

 

And we throw it 70% of the time

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said:

 

So what's the plan?  Will Oline pickups improve the run blocking?  Will they grab another team's castoff? Is there a Fred Jackson type UDFA just waiting to be signed?

 

 

My sense is that the FO identified the main issues as (1) blocking and (2) RB speed. They addressed the former in the draft (and perhaps think that Ford will help) and latter via Brieda. These two aspects will give Daboll adequate flexibility to create schemes in the offseason which emphasize the run game. 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, jahnyc said:

I would not be shocked if they brought in another veteran RB.  Could be someone like Bell, although I am not sure he has anything left or would be interested in playing for the Bills.

It you mean for a try out, potentially.

 

But In terms of making the active roster I think it seems unlikely just due to the numbers game.

 

Moss, Singletary, Jones (Special teams) and maybe even breida.

 

That would be 4 backs they would carry on the active roster which would even be a lot in itself.

 

 

[JESSEFEFFER]

6 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Moss had a fumble last year. I very bad fumble

Pro Football Reference and NFL.com have him for zero fumbles.  What's the 1 of which you mention?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 minute ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Pro Football Reference and NFL.com have him for zero fumbles.  What's the 1 of which you mention?

On the goal line vs San Fran, Allen may have got pegged for the fumble but it was on Moss.