Phillip Lindsay Released

[Buffalo03]

I would like Lindsay. If we want him we should move fast though. He has NE written all over him

[wppete]

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I'd love that but doubtful McBeane give up on a 3rd round pick this early. 

 

Agree Lindsey is a great fit. We just have way too many RBs(slow RBs too) for them to invest FA money into, IMO. 

Yeah we need to add a speed element to our backfield whether it's an FA on low money like Lindsay or Matt Breida or through the draft (Javian Hawkins or Kenneth Gainwell maybe?).

 

Speaking of giving up on third round picks, how about the Patriots drafting two TEs in the third round just last year and then giving the two highest guaranteed money deals to Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry after one season? They upgraded the position, but what a incredible misuse of resources. This board would be on fire if we did something like that. 

[BuffaloRebound]

14 minutes ago, berg1029 said:

He may want to be "the guy" somewhere, since he has always had to share duties in Denver.  While I agree with everyone that he would be a great addition, but I doubt he wants to come here knowing that there are 2 other RBs who will also be getting the ball

Highly doubt Moss or Singletary would scare him away.  Almost every team in the League has better RB’s than those 2.  

[Mark92]

Big Baller Beane time.

[YoloinOhio]

20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Aside from the topic, but I did not know a RFA tender could be rescinded.  Are there rules around this?

 

It seems as though it could potentially be unfair to the player, if he's given a tender that deters other teams from offering for him because of the draft pick associated with it, then after the first 2 days of FA when teams in need look elsewhere to fill their needs, it's rescinded.

 

I guess it depends on how you count Christian Wade?

It sounds like Lindsay requested that it be rescinded 

I forgot about Wade mainly as I don’t personally consider him as a viable option to make the 53. I think he’s a PS guy who helps with their fun little videos. He would take up a regular spot on the PS now though and could technically play in a game if needed so that would be a jump for him.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[JaCrispy]

[Buffalo_Stampede]

52 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

I live in Denver and have followed Lindsay since his transition from Denver East HS, to CU, to Broncos.  Great guy, big heart, but is basically the same back as Singletary.  I would love to have him on our team, but not both him and DS.

Very different runners. Im not sure what you mean? Singletary is a very patient east/west runner. Lindsay more north/south if you get my point.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

I think he would be a perfect fit for Buffalo.

[Alphadawg7]

25 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Yeah we need to add a speed element to our backfield whether it's an FA on low money like Lindsay or Matt Breida or through the draft (Javian Hawkins or Kenneth Gainwell maybe?).

 

Speaking of giving up on third round picks, how about the Patriots drafting two TEs in the third round just last year and then giving the two highest guaranteed money deals to Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry after one season? They upgraded the position, but what a incredible misuse of resources. This board would be on fire if we did something like that. 

And let’s not forget both Jonnu and Henry are now tied ($12.5M per year each) as the third highest paid TEs in the league behind only Kittle and Kelce. Yet they combine to average just 900 yards a season with Jonnu averaging 350 yards a season and Henry averaging 550 season.  Jonnu has never even reached 500 yards while Henry has never reached 700 yards.

 

So they committed $25m a year to these guys after also paying Agholor (who can’t catch, who would be 4th on depth chart here, averages 568 yards per year, and has never reached 900 yards in a season) at WR the same as Diggs.  
 

That’s $38M a year to 3 guys who combine to average 1368 yards a year, which is significantly less than Diggs by himself totaled this season.  

 

Lmao at the Pats.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Alphadawg7

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

I think he would be a perfect fit for Buffalo.

I would like to sign him, and draft one on day 3

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

That would be great, then we'd have three RB's all with about equal overall skills and talents.  Then each week there can be multiple 10 page threads arguing and debating over whichever one of the three was inactive that week was a huge mistake and that was why our running game struggled in the game.  Plus at least a third thread stating we should have activated Williams every week and all problems solved!

 

IMO if they are going to sign/draft another RB, lets make it someone who is head and shoulders better than the ones currently on the roster, else stick with what you got.

[Rk_Bills86]

37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Thats where I am but they do kind of need to sign one too. They only have three on the roster, correct? Yeldon and Jones both FA. 

 

Wade doesn't actually count towards the roster (International Player designation)

 

And on topic of Lindsay - I'd take him if the price was right.

[SCBills]

I like Moss, but I’d take literally anybody over Singletary after this past season.   
 

Maybe that’s not fair to him, but I’d take a Lindsay Phillips over him, let alone Phillip Lindsay. 
 

Edited March 18, 2021 by SCBills

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Rk_Bills86 said:

 

Wade doesn't actually count towards the roster (International Player designation)

 

And on topic of Lindsay - I'd take him if the price was right.

He does this year. That was only a 2 year thing.

[DJB]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

 

Tender

 

I do like my pork tender thank you. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

He’s a great reviving back.  I would take a flyer though at the right price. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It sounds like Lindsay requested that it be rescinded 

I forgot about Wade mainly as I don’t personally consider him as a viable option to make the 53. I think he’s a PS guy who helps with their fun little videos. He would take up a regular spot on the PS now though and could technically play in a game if needed so that would be a jump for him.

 

I have wondered if Wade's understanding of blocking has developed to the point where they might consider him for special teams use.

[BuffaloRebound]

Does seem like he’d be a really nice fit with Moss.  Singletary can fill the Yeldon role.  He’s still cheap and RB’s get hurt a lot.  

[dpberr]

He's always been a productive running back.  It's just that you're always on borrowed time with him unfortunately.  Hard runner, elusive.  As others have said, he's cranked out 1,000 yard seasons in a middling Broncos offense.  

 

The issue is that he has a LONG history of significant knee injuries.  Has torn ACLs in high school, college and in the NFL.  Those knee injuries now may be affecting his hips as those too now are getting dinged to the point he missed games over them.

 

I'd speculate that his career longevity isn't fantastic and the Broncos didn't want to invest long-term and he's looking for that long term contract.   

 

 

[HappyDays]

I wouldn't hate it but I think we can get a speedy RB in the draft. I don't see a need to spend money on one.

[HOUSE]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

I wouldn't hate it but I think we can get a speedy RB in the draft. I don't see a need to spend money on one.

 

Boooooooo Boooooooo, this is why Happy Days was cancelled

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, dpberr said:

He's always been a productive running back.  It's just that you're always on borrowed time with him unfortunately.  Hard runner, elusive.  As others have said, he's cranked out 1,000 yard seasons in a middling Broncos offense.  

 

The issue is that he has a LONG history of significant knee injuries.  Has torn ACLs in high school, college and in the NFL.  Those knee injuries now may be affecting his hips as those too now are getting dinged to the point he missed games over them.

 

I'd that his career longevity isn't fantastic and the Broncos didn't want to invest long-term and he's looking for that long term contract.   

 

 

Luckily for us, I doubt there’s any team looking to invest in him long term. 

[Codycolo12]

Lindsey would be the number 1 back in Buffalo hands down. Moss is the perfect compliment. Get it done!

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

He had 1000 yards his first 2 seasons so yes

 

He's also a 4.39 40 guy. 

[dpberr]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Luckily for us, I doubt there’s any team looking to invest in him long term. 

I agree.  If it were my money being spent, I'd be comfortable with a 1+option year type of deal.  I'm all for adding a variety of skill sets at RB. Just wouldn't want to be on the hook for a lot of guaranteed money.  

[Back2Buff]

I have always been scared of this dude when the Bills played Den.  The dude is QUICK.  I would totally be down.

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Does seem like he’d be a really nice fit with Moss.  Singletary can fill the Yeldon role.  He’s still cheap and RB’s get hurt a lot.  

Lindsay ran a 4.39 and I believe DS ran a blazing 4.64.....I'd have no problem signing him to a 2 yr deal worth 4M. Moss becomes RB2 and DS can battle Williams for that 3rd spot. I'd prefer a Najee Harris or Chris Carson but that may not happen. Lindsay would give us the outside speed we've lacked.  If we don't build a better running game, we're not beating KC.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Lindsay ran a 4.39 and I believe DS ran a blazing 4.64.....I'd have no problem signing him to a 2 yr deal worth 4M. Moss becomes RB2 and DS can battle Williams for that 3rd spot. I'd prefer a Najee Harris or Chris Carson but that may not happen. Lindsay would give us the outside speed we've lacked.  If we don't build a better running game, we're not beating KC.

I would think Moss I would be RB1 and Lindsey RB2 change of pace.  

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

 

Tender

Or Tinder.

 

Hes quick and I don’t like FA RB’s, but only if he is cheap.  Otherwise no.  Drat Ettiene.  It’s not like we are getting an Edge Rusher at 30.  Then again a couple of guys are getting me excited about the Mack thing.  That would far outweigh anyone if even remotely possible.

Edited March 18, 2021 by machine gun kelly

[Process]

If we could somehow unload singletary for a 6th round pick or so I'd be all for bringing in Lindsay at a reasonable price. 

 

I'm ready to give up on him and upgrade, either with a cheap FA or draft pick. He just stinks, doesn't bring anything to the table. 

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I would think Moss I would be RB1 and Lindsey RB2 change of pace.  

Seems like a perfect combo.

[RosieLeaks48]

If they are going to really change the dynamic of this team, they need a player that creates mismatches at RB or TE. I just don't see Lindsey doing that. Kind of like when Thurman was drafted and it impacted everything. I would love to see Travis Etienne or Kenneth Gainwell in the draft. Guys with receiving ability and the chance to take it to the house, would put our offense on KC's level. Imagine Etienne in the backfield and going in motion with Ertz at TE and Diggs, Sanders and Beasley at WR. IMO, I think that type of player is a game changer. 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Or Tinder.

 

Hes quick and I don’t like FA RB’s, but only if he is cheap.  Otherwise no.  Drat Ettiene.  It’s not like we are getting an Edge Rusher at 30.  Then again a couple of guys are getting me excited about the Mack thing.  That would far outweigh anyone if even remotely possible.

We may not get a pass rusher that will make an immediate impact in 2020 @30, but there are several players that have the ability to become solid edge rushers.  

 

No chance Paye falls imo, but possibly
Phillips or Rousseau.
 

if they’re gone, these guys all have potential to be solid nfl pass rushers:  
Ossai

 

Ojulari

oweh

perkins

basham 

Payton turner

patrick Jones

 

Not all perfect fits....but all capable to putting pressure on the QB. 
 

if Etienne is the pick, I won’t be mad, but I think I’d rather sign Lindsey (or another Rb with some speed) or draft Gainwell/Carter

later in the draft.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

This would just make too much sense to happen.

[Coach Tuesday]

He can get to the edge.  They need to get to the edge, I don’t care how - Lindsay, Kareem Hunt, a draft pick like Gainwell.

[thenorthremembers]

I think he'd be a great pickup.   I also think it's ok to be patient on running backs with Drake, Fournette, Bell and Chris Carson all still unsigned.

 

The longer you wait the better the deal.  

[John from Riverside]

He does seem to fit a need

[billieve420]

Sign Lindsay and move Singletary. I think he is an upgrade over Singletary just based on speed alone.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, inaugural balls said:

Sound the alarm!!!

 

BADOLBILZ in 3....2...1

 

 

Yes, I think he's a fit.

 

And I also will be right back here arguing against giving him a good contract if he comes in here and repeats the huge numbers he put up as a rookie in 2018.

 

They just need some speed at RB to provide a change of pace.........he should be that and also be motivated in a contract year.

 

He is legitimately fast..........faster than Etienne who is just "fast for a RB" and the team should take the position that a first round pick is the equivalent of $20M in cap space........you don't use those picks on runnin' bax even if Buddy Nix says you need one.

[Billl]

45 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He does seem to fit a need

If the need is getting Josh killed because his RB can’t pick up a blitz to save his life, Lindsay is your guy.  He was pretty good runner, but he doesn’t do much in terms of receiving and is a huge liability blocking.  He’s also broken.