Toyo321 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC. They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D . Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams. Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys. If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year. The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game. Totally ok with staying the course. 5 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It totally doesn't. 4 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 For the past few games, the Bills have shown up with a new look and concept each week. Players who got a lot of snaps last week and did great hardly play this week. I think this is partly to keep the opponents guessing, and also because Daboll and Frazier work really hard to come up with effective game plans. I don't see so much variation on other teams, but what the Bills are doing is working. In the first Pats game this year, the Bills ran and ran and ran, and it worked. In the second, the Pats were ready to stop the run, and the Bills blew them out by passing. This is a good thing! I have no idea whether Daboll thinks we need to run a lot against KC. It was smart not to waste downs on running much against the Ravens' D, which had shut down the best RB in the league the week before. Were it not for the windy conditions, Allen would have lit them up, but that doesn't matter at all. They won. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Dabol’s methodology calls for attacking what he believes to be the weaknesses of the individual D the Bills face that week. Whether the Bills run, or not, will depend upon this philosophy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It would help, but I don't think they have to. Everyone has known all year we have no running game, we just beat the team with a great defense in a game where it was hard to pass because of weather. Yet here they still stand, so "must" is probably a strong word. Allen will go off this game, he wants to prove he's on Mahomes level. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Allens accuracy and the way Bills WR's are catching the football its practically like a longer extension of a hand off landing in the hands of our best athletes IMO. With that being said RB's are also good athletes and deserving of some touches. Daboll attacks the oppositions weaknesses and tries not to play to their strengths. I'm very happy with the way Daboll is calling the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Utah John said: For the past few games, the Bills have shown up with a new look and concept each week. Players who got a lot of snaps last week and did great hardly play this week. I think this is partly to keep the opponents guessing, and also because Daboll and Frazier work really hard to come up with effective game plans. I don't see so much variation on other teams, but what the Bills are doing is working. In the first Pats game this year, the Bills ran and ran and ran, and it worked. In the second, the Pats were ready to stop the run, and the Bills blew them out by passing. This is a good thing! I have no idea whether Daboll thinks we need to run a lot against KC. It was smart not to waste downs on running much against the Ravens' D, which had shut down the best RB in the league the week before. Were it not for the windy conditions, Allen would have lit them up, but that doesn't matter at all. They won. Agreed but you can't keep them from becoming blitz happy and tee-ing of on Josh, if we don't run more than what we have in this postseason. It is a key weapon too to keep PH and their O on the sidelines. Time of possession needs to be on our side in this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The Blitz I wouldn't worry too much about. Ravens blitzed 46.1% of the time all season, only 20% against the Bill's Allen was 6-7 with a TD on those blitzes. Fair to say defenses have figured out blitzing Allen isn't smart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 ONLY to keep the defense honest. They tried to run last KC game and it failed. Unleash the arm of allen and all will be well................... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I don't think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I think that the answer to this question depends a lot on Mahomes' availability for the game. If he's playing and close to full strength, strangely enough we might be running more - say 1/3 of the time. We are probably trying to control the clock more and not expose our defense too much. If it's Chad Freaking Henne at QB, then I say bombs away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Play to their best on both sides of the ball and the Bills will win... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Daboll said it will be but I’ll believe it when I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Then they better activate Williams then, because he's the only Bills RB that has shown anything and isn't injured. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'm much more concerned addressing the defense in terms of changing things up from how we defended them in the first game. I have no doubt McDermott and company are going to do things differently and that they learned from the first match up. I also think we are a much better team than we were when we played them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game. Totally ok with staying the course. only problem is that their offense is unlike any offense we’ve faced. Scoring anything less than 27pts will certainly be a loss. 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Then they better activate Williams then, because he's the only Bills RB that has shown anything and isn't injured. 100% agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: I'm much more concerned addressing the defense in terms of changing things up from how we defended them in the first game. I have no doubt McDermott and company are going to do things differently and that they learned from the first match up. I also think we are a much better team than we were when we played them. Yeah, the run D is more important to the Bills than their run O for this game. Reid was fine running the ball last game as the Bills focused on limiting big plass plays from Mahomes. Should be a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 We've had plenty of 5 or 6 minutes drives with almost nothing but short throws. The game is move the ball and stop the other team from moving the ball. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I do think we need to run enough just to keep the defense honest enough to not solely sell out against the pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Saturday night was either a purely tactical decision not to run at all. Or it was a stunning indictment of how bad our run game is that they only used it as a last resort. After some thought, I think it was the former and I think for the most part it worked. I do hope though that the run option is there if we need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Does it? KC's defense isnt that good.....we have faced much tougher defenses by several teams. We do need to keep the ball out of PM hands.....but it is much more important that we drop 40 on them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Does it? KC's defense isnt that good.....we have faced much tougher defenses by several teams. We do need to keep the ball out of PM hands.....but it is much more important that we drop 40 on them Yep. Dance with the girl we brought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Disagree. I say light 'em up. They'll be doing it to us. Time to take the gloves off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Disagree. I say light 'em up. They'll be doing it to us. Time to take the gloves off. This is where I am at. I think we can win in a shoot out. i do think there will be some timely runs for us, including on draws out of shotgun. What’s interesting too is that we quietly went away from a number of very effective runs we used earlier in the year (inside traps; that delayed sort of stretch draw out of shotgun). I am wondering if we have been saving some of those and might dust them off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Saturday night was either a purely tactical decision not to run at all. Or it was a stunning indictment of how bad our run game is that they only used it as a last resort. After some thought, I think it was the former and I think for the most part it worked. I do hope though that the run option is there if we need it. The Ravens did completely shut down Henry last week so I am sure that played a part in their game planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I disagree with needing to run if we get a lead. If we get a lead keep passing and add to the lead. I think the Bills are going to pass all over the Chiefs this weekend. We are talking 400 plus yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Toyo321 said: I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC. They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D . Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams. Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys. If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year. The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week. No it doesn’t. Let Josh Cook. we just played two much better defenses and beat them. Ride the horse that got you there. 1 hour ago, Toyo321 said: Agreed but you can't keep them from becoming blitz happy and tee-ing of on Josh, if we don't run more than what we have in this postseason. It is a key weapon too to keep PH and their O on the sidelines. Time of possession needs to be on our side in this game. Let them. Josh has SHREDDED the Blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Then they better activate Williams then, because he's the only Bills RB that has shown anything and isn't injured. You are about the 10th person to imply Motor is injured.....what proof, ue:tweet, quote, what play in the game/time remaining? Otherwise its already getting old Edited January 19, 2021 by MasterStrategist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Anyone else itching to speculate about a potential injury to Motor?? Ah c'mon @MasterStrategist, your post prior to editing had, what, 20 repetitions? What's a fella to do? Lol. It did, glitch in the matrix. Still waiting for someone to post what they got on the Motor injury front, haha...or maybe I'll post 20 more times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, MasterStrategist said: Lol. It did, glitch in the matrix. Still waiting for someone to post what they got on the Motor injury front, haha...or maybe I'll post 20 more times On Locked On Bills I had heard it was a hamstring injury, but I haven't followed up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 They mentioned on OBL that Singletary went out late in the game and speculated that it was his hamstring. Haven’t heard anything beyond that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC. They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D . Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams. Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys. If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year. The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week. We don't have a running game other than JA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 You think they can set a dozen plays specifically for Devonta Freeman? A half dozen run plays, 3-4 Pass protect plays and maybe even 3-4 plays where he’s an option in the passing game? Is Freeman even an option going forward or is it gonna be Yeldon? Or Williams? (Doubtful)..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just for information..... The idea you need to run the ball well to win VS KC...just doesn't bear itself out when you look at the stats. KC has been outrushed 8 times this year. KC won all 8 KC has lost TOP 8 times this year. KC won all 8 If you are looking for a blue print....you'd want to look at the Raiders. I don't want to credit Gruden too much....becuase in teh Loss...a big part of that was KC's defensive gameplan of daring Carr to beat the blitz (something he isn't good at) and he beat it all day long for big plays. But ...in both Chiefs Raiders games....lots of throwsto TE and RB. KC is NOT a good team at defending TE's or pass catching backs ...KC is GREAT at defending WR. KC ranks amond the worst in the NFL in coverage vs TE and RB...and is top 5 VS WR. ....from a KC perspective, Buffalo isn't a horrible matchup for our D....Buf already isn't a power running team, and Buffalo doesn't have any major threat at TE or out of the backfield. This is a plus for KC. Anyhow...the Raiders fed KC a steady diet of Darren Waller and passes to fullbacks and running backs....in both games, Waller led with 7 catches....and the TE/RB/FB had like 66% of the catches. KC's LB corps is poor at coverage. However....we have an excess of talented DB's. This is a plus for KC vs Buffalo. Buffalo runs 11 personel (3WR) more than any team except Cincy. ....and Buffalo runs 4 WR more than any team except the Cardinals. This plays into the strength of KC's defense. In contrast, the Radiers played the 4th fewest snaps in 11 personel and 2nd most in 22 (1 WR). The radiers do things well that KC sucks at defending...so even a crappy team like the Raiders....gave KC all it could handle and more both times they met this year. And it's also a big reas why Allen probalby had one of his worst games vs KC earlier. Again, just info.....I think it will be a tough game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I’m more comfortable putting every play in Josh’s hands like last week. He does not need a running game, only the wind slowed him down but he won again and played error free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC. They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D . Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams. Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys. If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year. The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week. Why? I think we can throw toe to toe with them. We are #2 in scoring and they are not the top dog. The Bills strength of schedule is tied for 5th while KC is tied for 18th. Maybe it’s KC that needs to run the ball? I get what you’re saying, in a different year I would agree. Not this year. Edited January 19, 2021 by dlonce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, dlonce said: Why? I think we can throw toe to toe with them. We are #2 in scoring and they are not the top dog. The Bills strength of schedule is tied for 5th while KC is tied for 18th. Maybe it’s KC that needs to run the ball? I get what you’re saying, in a different year I would agree. Not this year. Playoff rushing yards every game this year by each team and the loser. Indy Buff Loser Indy 163 96 LA Sea Loser Seattle 164 136 Tampa Wash Loser Wash 142 86 Balt Tenn Loser Tenn 236 51 NO Chic Loser Chicago 123 48 Clev Pitt Loser Pitt 127 52 LA GB Loser LA 96 188 Balt Buff Loser Balt 150 32 Clev KC Loser Clev 112 123 Bucs NO Loser NO 127 104 Buffalo is the only team in any of the playoff rounds to lose the rushing game total in each game and win. This a dangerous trend and this is skating on thin ice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 One thing that KC does great, which I wish we replicated more, is their jet sweeps. They constantly run them, and always seem to bust one for a longish gain. They also almost always motion the jet sweep. We have occasional success with it, but not the weekly success KC has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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