bobobonators Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I know this topic has been touched upon numerous times but here we go again. Knox has been more involved in the offense since the SF game - it has been great to see. This offense has been rolling. A top tier pass-catching TE is what this passing attack needs to be consistently elite in my opinion. It’s impossible for an opposing defense to account for Diggs, Beasley and a TE threat. A team with an elite corner like the Dolphins may be able to shadow Diggs and somewhat take him out of the game, but with Beasley and a TE threat the offense would still be dynamic. Knox has all the tools to be that threat we need in the redzone and over the middle of the field but this dude continues to raise question marks. How does he drop that TD last night? His hands can be too unpredictable for my liking. This upcoming draft has a couple of really good TE options. Do we stick with Knox as the starter one more season to see if it all clicks at some point? Do you guys want to spend a first or second round pick on a TE next yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yeah the TD drop was disappointing, but he made at least two very tough catches later in the game 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Stick with Knox. He has all the tools and I do have faith he puts it all together. I'd rather use premium picks elsewhere. 12 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Bills need their Kelce. Go get him... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 At this point you run what ya brung. No point thinking about it now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I like Knox for angry runs. But he is by far not Kelce, Gronk caliber TE. This offence will be unstoppable if Bills add big fast TE with reliable hands. Draft or free agency 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think the bills are showing they can simply flirt with the idea of having a TE threat and it'll be enough. They need Knox because he has the vertical threat to open the field for others. If he drops one a game, I think it's down the priority list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said: I like Knox for angry runs. But he is by far not Kelce, Gronk caliber TE. This offence will be unstoppable if Bills add big fast TE with reliable hands. Draft or free agency Pitts....get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 If your throwing to the TE in the end zone, it needs to be Kroft. (with respect to Smith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: "Doh!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I have been very vocal on this he needs to go. if its a drop once in a while it happens but this guy seems to always have key drops that could affect us if we are playing better teams in the playoffs. there is a reason a guy with his talent dropped to the 4th round. i say go after another TE next year. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, bobobonators said: I know this topic has been touched upon numerous times but here we go again. Knox has been more involved in the offense since the SF game - it has been great to see. This offense has been rolling. A top tier pass-catching TE is what this passing attack needs to be consistently elite in my opinion. It’s impossible for an opposing defense to account for Diggs, Beasley and a TE threat. A team with an elite corner like the Dolphins may be able to shadow Diggs and somewhat take him out of the game, but with Beasley and a TE threat the offense would still be dynamic. Knox has all the tools to be that threat we need in the redzone and over the middle of the field but this dude continues to raise question marks. How does he drop that TD last night? His hands can be too unpredictable for my liking. This upcoming draft has a couple of really good TE options. Do we stick with Knox as the starter one more season to see if it all clicks at some point? Do you guys want to spend a first or second round pick on a TE next yr? Since you know it has been talked about many times - call up the old thread and add thoughts rather than start over. I see no real way they are spending a high pick on TE. They will have 5 on the roster already for next year even after letting Kroft go. 4 of them will be on rookie deals or minimum pay - so you are not saving money and this team is about developing talent and I think they will keep trying to develop players. Plus Josh seems to really love Knox - so I imagine that helps also. The Bills should be using early picks on DE, CB, OL, and LB to fill needs based upon FA losses. If a TE falls big time and is the best player on the board - then go ahead - I just don’t see that being even a top 5 need for this team going forward. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I say just keep throwing to him but only when he’s covered well and some really hard to catch passes , never throw to him when he’s wide open GO BILLS 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cray51 said: I think the bills are showing they can simply flirt with the idea of having a TE threat and it'll be enough. They need Knox because he has the vertical threat to open the field for others. If he drops one a game, I think it's down the priority list. As long as the drop isn't a catch in the end zone when he is wide open and the game is on the line in the playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Having a tight end who can consistently get open, like Knox often is is an asset. I don't really care if he drops some passes. He's still a young player who was barely utilized in college. The glass is half full view is that he's almost always open, which is rare for a tight end in the NFL these days. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, LittleSammy said: As long as the drop isn't a catch in the end zone when he is wide open and the game is on the line in the playoffs! I'd have way more questions for Daboll or even Allen if they are targeting Knox with the game on the line. That's why they have Diggs and Beasley and Brown. He is clearly the 3rd/4th option on most plays. The offense doesn't flow through him in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Let him grow. Just like they did with Josh. He'll be better next year after a full camp, etc. Year 3 should be good. Bills will be losing a bunch to FA next year with the low salary cap and will need to reload elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I liked the way he knew he blew that one and made sure to focus the rest of the game last night. That’s a good sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: "Doh!" Yikes, too many of these. Can’t live with his mistakes in the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Keep him till his contract is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) We absolutely stick with him. Why wouldn't you, unless three or four guys beat him out, and that won't happen next year. Beyond that, do we address the position if the draft leaves us a good option? Yeah, sure, maybe. If the BPA is TE, OK. I doubt it'll be top three rounds, though. Too many other more pressing needs. Edited December 29, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I still like Knox. I'm not sure but I think his drops are down this year from last year (when I think he led the league!). He made two critical catches last night that had high difficulty ratings. The catch on 4th down with a DB crawling over his back was a great grab. The better catch was the sideline "Toe Drag Swag" catch on a Josh rollout. Great throw and great catch. Best of all, it gave me my video clip of the year after the Pats challenged that catch: If Knox can make BB do this once a year, I still want him on my team!!! 🤣 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He is our best TE right now and we stick with him. i do expect Beane to always be looking for ways to improve the team and TE is an area to consider in the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Since you know it has been talked about many times - call up the old thread and add thoughts rather than start over. I see no real way they are spending a high pick on TE. They will have 5 on the roster already for next year even after letting Kroft go. 4 of them will be on rookie deals or minimum pay - so you are not saving money and this team is about developing talent and I think they will keep trying to develop players. Plus Josh seems to really love Knox - so I imagine that helps also. The Bills should be using early picks on DE, CB, OL, and LB to fill needs based upon FA losses. If a TE falls big time and is the best player on the board - then go ahead - I just don’t see that being even a top 5 need for this team going forward. Outside of Knox, none of the TE on the roster could be considered a viable pass-catching threat. TE is a top 5 need for this team. What happens to this offense if Diggs gets injured? We already cant run the ball effectively. This is an aerial attack offense, which I love. As such, we need a reliable threat at TE. Im not saying that’s our biggest need, but certainly top 5 on the team and arguably our biggest need on offense. I agree about adding to the oline. At this point, you go all in on Allen and this offense for the next couple of seasons in my opinion. Try to keep the defense respectable, but not at the expense of the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Josh kept going back to him after the drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I’ve read over over on this board that TE is one of the harder positions to learn and become proficient at, being that is likely the case, and that those who make the decisions appear to disagree with the Knox has to go crowd, one might surmise that Knox isn’t going anywhere soon. His potential is still so high in the eyes of the coaches that they are not willing to give up on him and are not done grooming him. Y’all gonna have to get comfortable with this being the most likely course for some time to come. Go Bills!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, golfball323 said: The Bills need their Kelce. Go get him... Is he in this draft? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: We absolutely stick with him. Why wouldn't you, unless three or four guys beat him out, and that won't happen next year. Beyond that, do we address the position if the draft leaves us a good option? Yeah, sure, maybe. If the BPA is TE, OK. I doubt it'll be top three rounds, though. Too many other more pressing needs. I totally agree to stick with him this season. If anything he has been improving. My original post was more in terms of looking at next season bc of the potential TE’s in the draft. I was wondering if we invest a first or even second rd pick on a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: I have been very vocal on this he needs to go. if its a drop once in a while it happens but this guy seems to always have key drops that could affect us if we are playing better teams in the playoffs. there is a reason a guy with his talent dropped to the 4th round. i say go after another TE next year. Knox drafted in the 3rd. We're not likely to be cutting Knox next year. But I think we'll draft another TE. Maybe not in the top rounds people have in mind, another 3rd or 4th. Knox will hopefully be in a 3 or 4 way fight with Sweeney, Gilliam, draft pick, and maybe a FA. I swear that guy needs to take up meditation or minimalism or something. Maybe he needs to Milano-ize his apartment. He can make a contested catch that he has to jump for and one-hand with a defender's hands in his face, but when the ball is coming right at his chest and hits him in the hands with no defender nearby it's like it his attention starts wandering. 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: I totally agree to stick with him this season. If anything he has been improving. My original post was more in terms of looking at next season bc of the potential TE’s in the draft. I was wondering if we invest a first or even second rd pick on a TE. I doubt it at this point. At this point, I think Diggs is Allen's guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah the TD drop was disappointing, but he made at least two very tough catches later in the game seems like he does this every game though. Keep him around until you can upgrade the position then cut him loose. I’m tired of the knox rollercoaster at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am sticking with Knox one more year largely because I don't know that it is sufficiently high priority to spend more resource there. The Bills need more reinforcement on the D line, they likely need a starter at linebacker if Milano walks, a starter at right tackle if Williams walks and they would still like, I'm sure, an upgrade at the second corner spot. I put tight end after each of those. And the other thing is the potential he continues to flash. He makes some great tough catches. That makes me believe the easy ones are concentration more than technique. I am giving him one more year to get it together. If he doesn't I am committing a decent chunk of resource either in FA or draft in 2022. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, bobobonators said: I totally agree to stick with him this season. If anything he has been improving. My original post was more in terms of looking at next season bc of the potential TE’s in the draft. I was wondering if we invest a first or even second rd pick on a TE. I at this point don’t see Beane spending a first or second round pick on a TE, but I’ve been wrong more than once... 😁👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, golfball323 said: The Bills need their Kelce. Go get him... It's unrealistic to believe you can go get the best TE in the league. Kelce types don't grow on trees. There are only a few elite TE's in the league. The rest are fairly mediocre. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 They need to look to upgrade that position this off-season. Knox's errors are being masked by a potent offense but, eventually, one of those many drops will cost the Bills. He's way too inconsistent. He may round into form but they would be wise to look for a better option this off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It's worth noting that they kept Knox on the field after that egregious drop, and that Allen threw to him shortly after, and trusted him with a very difficult catch on fourth down. Also, while we're on the subject of TEs, at some point color commentators are going to have to stop referring to Lee Smith as "blocking tight end Lee Smith." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Rocky Landing said: It's worth noting that they kept Knox on the field after that egregious drop, and that Allen threw to him shortly after, and trusted him with a very difficult catch on fourth down. Also, while we're on the subject of TEs, at some point color commentators are going to have to stop referring to Lee Smith as "blocking tight end Lee Smith." I think Allen likes Knox a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah the TD drop was disappointing, but he made at least two very tough catches later in the game Knox is still projecting to a poor man's Kelce, IMO. Kelce started the same way with dropsies, gradually lessening his drops, but they still happen from time to time. Travis Kelce, that is. Lee Smith projects to a poor man's Jason Kelce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He's kind of rookie/2nd year Josh Allen as a TE. He's got everything you want but has the occasional bone head play. I think you should draft a TE to compete with him but don't give up on him. I still think he has super star TE potential. He makes difficult catches look routine but the drops have to stop. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Having a tight end who can consistently get open, like Knox often is is an asset. I don't really care if he drops some passes. He's still a young player who was barely utilized in college. The glass is half full view is that he's almost always open, which is rare for a tight end in the NFL these days. This. Knox has stepped up his game big time and if he continues to improve the Bills will be getting great TE play very cheap which is a big deal over the next couple of years. Sure Knox had a bad drop but his three catches were outstanding and every one was a big play in Bill's TD drives. Even on his drop you have to like how he got open. I was on the fence with Knox figuring he needed to show flashes the 2nd half of the year and IMO he has. It wouldn't shock me to see him have a dominating game in the playoffs as DC's fixate on stopping Diggs, Beasley & Brown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 We keep him till there is a better option. I dont like cutting players (not named Kelvin Benjamin) before we have adequate replacements. That said, Knox's drops are concerning especially as we are now talking championships and not just division wins or playoffs. If a past-great TE with couple of years left in the tank comes available (no one comes immediately to mind), then I would grab him in the offseason as a short term insurance policy in case Knox still has trouble catching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts