WideNine Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Everyone always leans towards the flashy DE's, but I think in our defense, with the issues we have had we go for an impact DT if one is graded high enough to warrant the pick. We need that guy who not only anchors the d-line, but can get push on the pocket. Someone like that makes everyone else better, frees Oliver to be the disruptive force he can be from the interior, frees our ends because if forces QBs off their spot and they have to slide left or right. And it creates the room for LBs to stay clean and fill the gaps to attack the run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Top priority should be DE unless you trade the pick for a veteran DE like we did with Diggs. After that obviously White needs help on the other side badly. 3rd would be a true MLB. Edmunds' run stuffing instincts might not pan out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, WideNine said: Everyone always leans towards the flashy DE's, but I think in our defense, with the issues we have had we go for an impact DT if one is graded high enough to warrant the pick. We need that guy who not only anchors the d-line, but can get push on the pocket. Someone like that makes everyone else better, frees Oliver to be the disruptive force he can be from the interior, frees our ends because if forces QBs off their spot and they have to slide left or right. And it creates the room for LBs to stay clean and fill the gaps to attack the run. Not a bad idea. Star is on his way out and we see how bad we miss him already. Harry is floudering. I guess Butler is doing "ok". But we could definitely use a big time compliment to Ed. 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Top priority should be DE unless you trade the pick for a veteran DE like we did with Diggs. After that obviously White needs help on the other side badly. 3rd would be a true MLB. Edmunds' run stuffing instincts might not pan out? That's not what McDermott wants or needs tho. Edmunds is playing wonderfully in McD's D and it doesnt call for a thumper in the middle. Never has, never will. Agree DE is top priority, but I think OLB is a big need as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Micah Parsons. LB A true MLB who stuffs the run and is a complete 3 down LB. Move Tremaine to OLB. Kyle Pitts TE Will instantly be a top 10 TE in the NFL. Think Darren Waller. Kid is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1. OLB - If Milano is not retained this will be the biggest need on defense imo. 2. CB - The #2 CB position is a clear weakness as well, but we have EJ Gaines coming back next year who did excel when healthy in this system. 3. DE - We'll see how things play out, but it never hurts to get a top end pass rushing prospect. 4. OL - If a prospect they like falls into our lap then building the trenches is never a bad option. 5. DT - Same reason as #4 and they could both be interchanged. We may want to look into drafting a TRUE 1-Tech for this defense. This would be the order I'm looking in, but you always go BPA. If BPA is a Safety then so be it. If BPA is a RB then so be it. Maybe we trade out of the first and pick up another 2nd and 3rd? If that's what happens then so be it. I trust Beane with this franchise more than I have trusted any other GM in my lifetime at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I think that we should draft corners and safeties in every round, and even trade up while doing so. There is no reason to make a blue collar, cold weather team like the Bills physically stronger. Also, Josh is very mobile and the RBs are good. Why waste picks on blocking? 6 minutes ago, H2o said: I trust Beane with this franchise more than I have trusted any other GM in my lifetime at this point. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: Best player on the board at #32. , 3 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: Best player on the board at #32. What they said! BPA @ 32! And I mean it, but let’s elaborate... Probably No: P, K, S, QB, LB, G, RB...maybe C too.... meaning we could go best: WR, TE, OT, DT, DE, or CB available. i tip my hat to those who say DE or CB because I understand it, but I wouldn’t limit myself.... Maybe even LB if we could get a true blue-chipper somehow.... The Bills drafted guys that took a really long time.... I’m still waiting on Edmunds (I know he was an alternate pro bowler but he is raw in a lot of ways) ....Oliver doesn’t look like things are clicking, Allen is one of the most valuable players in the league and I’m not complaining but he was a long-time developer and he STILL is going to get better maybe much better. Now, Epenesa has to switch sides, right to left and that’s a difficult switch that takes time to master, so it’s going to take him awhile. Maybe next year we could draft someone with a short adjustment period? Is Williams the answer at RT? I still haven’t noticed anyone beat him. Can we sign him? Can he run block? I haven’t noticed how he run blocks either way but the line in general can’t get push if the DL is thinking run. I think they are getting better at it week to week though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: After thinking about it, I think LB is where it's at. Even if Milano re-signs. And especially so if he doesnt. No question. Edmunds and Milano are good ones, but we don't have much LB depth after that. Maybe Dodson? And Milano isn't guaranteed to sign. LBs don't always go high, but we won't be picking high, so perhaps one will slot in at the back of the 1st round, where the Bills will be picking. It seems like we have more depth at just about all other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 BPA at pick #32! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Trade it for a stud DE. Better bet than a college kid. I really think Beane hit on this with Diggs. Now lets do a DE! I'm all in Chandler!! Excellent idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Shaun Wade CB Ohio State. Edge rushers aren't that impressive and the two linebackers worthy of a first round pick at this point will be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 In no particular order...DE, CB, TE, OL, DT, LB - in other words, mostly BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Trade down. I want 5 picks in the second and third. Beane will hit on at least two good starters and some depth. We need cap space and will need to draft quality depth each of the next few years, so day 2 picks will be critical. Grab an OG, MLB (move Tremaine outside), OLB, 1-tech DT, and S. Pretty easy to get solid starters at those positions on Day 2. Maybe take a shot at a high upside CB or DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: I think Epenesa will be a player.. not saying he’ll be Mack or Bosa but I think that by the end of the year he’ll be established.. Addison and Hughes have also been good for us, not overly worried about DE but if a good EDGE is available, why not? Could see us drafting a stud DT to put next to Oliver also. We have more at DE than we do DT. CB, LB, TE and OL are all possibilities as well.. For a 3-0 team we have more holes than you’d think.. I agree with needing a DT, we need some real beef on the interior Dline. like a big athletic dude, 350 lbs, 6' 5"+ type dude. We are missing Jordan Phillips in the run D imo anyone out there in the draft that matches this description? I haven't started researching at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) I believe the Bills need to start thinking about getting faster at Safety. Edited October 1, 2020 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Maybe resurrect this thread in I don’t know April 2021, when free agency and most trades done. Then is a great time to talk about a draft a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Beast said: I believe the Bills need to start thinking about getting faster at Safety. I think that a hybrid S/OLB is definitely an option. They had Kyle Dugger as their top available player heading into day 2 of the draft. They just couldn’t get him. He has been a stud as has Jeremy Chinn. If another unicorn like that pops up he will be the pick. 6 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Maybe resurrect this thread in I don’t know April 2021, when free agency and most trades done. Then is a great time to talk about a draft a year from now. Well that doesn’t make a lot of sense with the college season going on. We all know the areas where the Bills could improve or have pending FAs. There is no reason that we should avoid following the prospects at those positions to form opinions. Just because the Bills are good doesn’t mean that rookies won’t help them. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl and are starting a rookie corner, rookie punter, rookie RB and have 4 more rookies in their 2 deep. We should always be talking about and planning ahead. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 We are in a great position to take best player available but I bet its a defensive player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 KJ, it’s just my opinion, but I’m not one to start the off season tracking until the off season. It doesn’t mean I don’t follow whatever college ball we have, id rather focus my friend on this season and follow what we are doing now, like will McD and Frazier have a solution for some improvement on the runs up the gut. I don’t care if you guys want to run wild with these topics, but to me it’s just early. Love hearing the opinions once we get to the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, PaattMaann said: Never too early for draft talk. Could use future Safety, o-line, pass rusher, always use DBs of all sorts. I could see a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: KJ, it’s just my opinion, but I’m not one to start the off season tracking until the off season. It doesn’t mean I don’t follow whatever college ball we have, id rather focus my friend on this season and follow what we are doing now, like will McD and Frazier have a solution for some improvement on the runs up the gut. I don’t care if you guys want to run wild with these topics, but to me it’s just early. Love hearing the opinions once we get to the off season. That’s fair. There’s plenty to discuss though. The Bills will definitely have some needs heading into next year as mentioned here. I’m going to spend my Saturdays cheering on the Buckeyes (once they start) and consuming as many other games as I can. I’m always looking for guys that catch my eye or that can make an impact on this team. On that note, and I’ve preached about this guy before but Pooka Williams!! He’s the best HS athlete that I have ever seen in my life and it isn’t even close. I’ve seen a lot of pro athletes and even all-stars play in high school and this guy was on a different planet. He’s draft eligible this year and would be an AMAZING fit for the Bills. My grandfather used to always say, “the difference between a good player and a great player is that a great player knows when he’s gone.” Watch these highlights everyone and tell me that kind of explosion wouldn’t be an amazing add to this team?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 DE, CB, LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 First of all, I think they’ll re-sign Milano. I like another stud CB, or go DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Trade it for a stud DE. Better bet than a college kid. TJ Watt or a Bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 TE, DE, and CB are all the most urgent areas of need in my opinion. Maybe even LB if Milano leaves via free agency. I can also see an early round pick at safety as Hyde and Poyer age and reach the end of their contracts. It feels good to have a roster with no urgent and glaring needs. A lot of these areas of concern are either trying to upgrade an OK position or trying to get younger while effective starters age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 A Dt or DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 We need a playmaker on defense. Preferably DL, but someone who can wreck a game by being such a ***** freak. I love the disciplined team defense that McD runs, but we need a stud ***** who can crash a game when the momentum needs to be shifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: We need a playmaker on defense. Preferably DL, but someone who can wreck a game by being such a ***** freak. I love the disciplined team defense that McD runs, but we need a stud ***** who can crash a game when the momentum needs to be shifted. Then we would probably have to move up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not a bad idea. Star is on his way out and we see how bad we miss him already. Harry is floudering. I guess Butler is doing "ok". But we could definitely use a big time compliment to Ed. That's not what McDermott wants or needs tho. Edmunds is playing wonderfully in McD's D and it doesnt call for a thumper in the middle. Never has, never will. Agree DE is top priority, but I think OLB is a big need as well. If it never has and never will, Sean's defense will continue to struggle against the run. If you want "cover only" LB's then fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, first_and_ten said: Then we would probably have to move up Yes, good point. I feel like our offense is headed to the stratosphere as it is, but our Defense is going to decline unless we find this stud playmaker. It's the only missing piece. If we find it I expect us to challenge for the Super Bowl tout suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I think a Guard in the first round would make for some good entertainment around here! A speed rusher at DE or a DB would be my best guess. Look how quickly we turned around the WR corps. Two years ago we had nothing, new we are loaded! These guys will get it done right! The best part is we are NOT desperate so we really can go more along the BPA model. It’s never 100% BPA, we won’t be drafting a QB in round one. It looks like we found our guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, 17islongenough said: QB In all seriousness, they should trade a 2nd or 3rd for Darnold - he'll be the perfect backup for his buddy Josh. Sam can slowly recover his psyche sitting on the bench with a great organization. I am not comfortable with the backup QB situation at all. Depending on how well they shore up the run defense I would think more a hulking D/NT rather than DE. Bills don't really have a 1-technique on the roster, and Star was old and mediocre BEFORE he opted out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: Yes, good point. I feel like our offense is headed to the stratosphere as it is, but our Defense is going to decline unless we find this stud playmaker. It's the only missing piece. If we find it I expect us to challenge for the Super Bowl tout suite. I forgot to say this. There might be one in free agency . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 CB or DT. I'd say DE, but we still have Addison, Epenesa and Hughes.. I'd like to see this defense able to stop the run for a change. Last year we were 12th and that's the highest we've been for a while. This year we may be ranked higher, but we are obviously struggling there. I also think OL is a likely option if there's someone the like for the value. Building in the trenches works for me because we're just average across the board on both sides of the ball (pretty much). On the other hand, if Norman doesn't play well, we really need 2 upgrades at CB -- 1 outside and 1 in the slot. Oh and TE is also an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Trade it for a stud DE. Better bet than a college kid. We have a stud DE - AJ Epinesa!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I can't get into the draft at Christmas time, surely no interest at Thanksgiving and sure as hell have no interest before Halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 With the 32nd pick, they can take whoever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I forgot to say this. There might be one in free agency . Well, then we gotta pay them big time. I'd rather move up and give up draft picks to get a rookie stud. We're at the stage where draft picks can be tools to add the missing piece that we need to get dat LOMBARDI TROPHY::🤑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I wouldn't expect Beane to veer from his BPA philosophy, but that being said... two words: Line. Backer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 A future HOFer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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