Albany,n.y. Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring. I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision. I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified. It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things? Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in. I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week. When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room. My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation. If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out. I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Albany I honestly thought this for a moment, too. For some it really is an at risk health issue and keep in mind it is still early as we are 1/256th through the regular season. ...man, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I haven't exactly studied an exhaustive list of all the holdouts, but I assumed most guys doing it were established in the league and already had their $10 million + stashed away. I agree, it's kind of a risk for a tweener type player who hasn't made it yet, but then again ,we are talking about health and safety. Not everything has a price tag. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I doubt they regret it, the teams are one positive case sneaking through away from total shut down. I am impressed they’ve held it away and super hopeful they don’t have issues. So far so good. My guess is the opt outs are fine with the decision since I would also guess the decision they made probably wasn’t about them but their families concerns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny3000 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I mean, this sounds wonderful to say 1 day into the season lol. why don't you wait a few weeks before declaring the mistake everyone who opted out made? even though you were able to go back to work meetings, this just may be a very different situation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring. I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision. I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified. It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things? Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in. I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week. When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room. My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation. If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out. I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance. The season has barely started to think that we’re out of the woods would be a little premature IMHO ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 You can tell how well testing and tracing is going by watching football? INteresting, to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, 4_kidd_4 said: You can tell how well testing and tracing is going by watching football? INteresting, to say the least. They had a story about the constant testing & monitoring with tracking bracelets on the broadcast, might have been the pre game show. If you saw it you would know what I'm referring to. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 A lot of the opt outs were calculated business decisions. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: They had a story about the constant testing & monitoring with tracking bracelets on the broadcast, might have been the pre game show. If you saw it you would know what I'm referring to. that is so they can catch it early and know who have been around, you could still catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: You can tell how well testing and tracing is going by watching football? INteresting, to say the least. I see what ya did there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I doubt they regret it, the teams are one positive case sneaking through away from total shut down. I am impressed they’ve held it away and super hopeful they don’t have issues. So far so good. My guess is the opt outs are fine with the decision since I would also guess the decision they made probably wasn’t about them but their families concerns 1 positive test will not shut down anything. It will keep that player out for a few weeks and anybody that he may have infected if anybody. This season will play out in full 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Lewes Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 maybe today -- it would also be interesting to ask this question in a month or so . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: They had a story about the constant testing & monitoring with tracking bracelets on the broadcast, might have been the pre game show. If you saw it you would know what I'm referring to. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) I saw a lot of people on the sidelines with masks on their chins of touching it constantly. Kind of defeats the purpose of a mask. And right as the broadcasters were saying the fans in the stands should be wearing masks it was showing fans without masks. And the fans did not seem overly distanced to me. They seemed to be together in clumps. We'll see how it goes after week 1. Edited September 11, 2020 by MJS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: 1 positive test will not shut down anything. It will keep that player out for a few weeks and anybody that he may have infected if anybody. This season will play out in full Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Seems like they should have figured out how to build some flex into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. It’s almost instant results at this point. Honestly this season should be just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 There weren't that many that opted out (maybe 50?) & I think probably a fair %age the primary reason was NOT their Covid risk. Some probably did it for a "business" decision (maybe Star?). Admittedly, some of those might regret it if in fact the cap drops next year as much as some are estimating. Didn't Gaines opt out due to "personal reasons". Then you've got that Canadian MD who opted out for more altruistic reasons. As for their exposure/risk, it might well be a team by team thing. I think it's premature to regret a decision like that especially if 1/2 way through the season a couple of teams get hit where 25% of their roster gets infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time? If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I'm curious if the opt-outs have even stayed in shape. Star could be taking a year-long vacation & be grossly overweight for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Likely not at all, a year off, body heals up more than in the last several years, hit the workout regime three four days a week. What’s not to like? Back next year, it’s all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nineforty said: why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time? If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. Because we're better/smarter/faster/stronger than them and therefore make the best decisions all the time in any scenario and therefore can criticize anything they do. Welcome to the internet. @Albany,n.y., I'm sure players opted out for different reasons, but some may legitimately not want to risk catching covid. You seem to be implying that because the NFL is doing a great job of monitoring it, then the players won't catch it or be affected... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring. I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision. I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified. It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things? Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in. I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week. When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room. My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation. If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out. I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance. Not knocking what the NFL is doing, but think I'd give more credit to the players for being smart and not putting themselves in places where they can easily become spreaders. Think the setup of the NFL is easier as teams are home all week then travel to away games the day before and back home right afterwards. Unlike baseball where you're on a 10 day road trip with nothing to do, so are bored and go somewhere like a casino for example. The players are older and more mature, many married with families, be willing to bet that regardless of what city/state the players are in, most are keeping their kids in remote learning rather than in person to again lessen chances of bringing home more than their homework. Not going out at night to parties, etc. whereas who knows what these 19 yo college kids will do as the season wheres on. Saw a thing last night on the news some college kid tested positive, was in quarantine so had a big party with other positive kids and didn't think anything he did was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: "The guy made a million dollars." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. Beane, in an interview, said results are back very quickly. I would expect this to be the same with all teams. As far as players second guessing themselves, why would they? They were/are aware of the dangers of Covid and didn’t want to catch it themselves or give it to their families. I completely get it and would have done the same if I was in their shoes. For most, the money will be there next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Not knowing a given players personal situation, I think it is more than a bit presumptuous to conclude that their fears are not justified based on watching a single game on TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 What I got from lasts night game: Can't Get Covid: Hugging opposing player's prior to cointoss If you're a player on the slideline During a moment of unity While playing Drinking beer or eating in the stands Can Get Covid: During the cointoss If you're a coach on the sidelines Cheering for your team in the stands 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 It’s a wait and see thing, but 64,000 tests in and only 5 positive cases is not bad in 2208 players (53+16x32). I don’t think anyone with a medical risk like Star, or a person who has a wife having a baby, or a mom ill doesn’t regret it at all. Those who had no issues like this and just decided to sit out, I’m betting in a month if it stays as good as it is now will regret it. Their careers are short lived and many haven’t figured out a post football career. Even if they did, they know they’ll never make what they can make now. Even the average players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I doubt there are many regrets yet. It's been one game. After 3 weeks and full slates of games, with no cases cropping up, then maybe there will be 'some' regret. I doubt any decision was made in a vacuum, and there will be many variables to do with personal circumstances, that will be in play, many of which won't alter just because games are being played safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 We'll see in a month or two when the bubble the NFL thinks it has starts going to different cities every week or accepts teams from other cities. All it takes is one outbreak on one team and this season is pretty much done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 This entire thread is full of totally opposite opinions but most posters are so confident and definitive that they have the correct opinion. In other words, totally worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. Not to mention all of the people coming into contact during travel, stops for food, lodging and interviewing. There are many parts to this and it will be difficult to predict how bad outbreaks will be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I would imagine most are. If they are passionate about it, they most likely have the itch the play. I know I would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I thought the OP was referring to season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring. I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision. I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified. It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things? Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in. I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week. When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room. My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation. If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out. I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance. Nah, none of them actually wanted to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nineforty said: why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time? If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. A lot of people can't see that. They judge results that were completely outside of a person's control, rather than the judgment that put them in the right position. Edited September 11, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, 947 said: I'm curious if the opt-outs have even stayed in shape. Star could be taking a year-long vacation & be grossly overweight for all we know. Not everyone is a Karlos Williams. But seriously, most of the guys who are pros and behave like pros.....will still be pros next year. Some may indeed blow it. Making the roster is a test every year. Nothing is given to them, they need to earn it. I’m very curious about all the Patriot* opt outs. Is this part of the big “conspiracy plan” for the next draft? (Seriously doubt that, but keep hearing it.) Is it pure coincidence, or do guys (like Gronk and maybe to some degree Brady) just not want to put up with a stiff Belichick regime with little chance of winning a ring or anything else. I suspect the last option carried some weight. . Edited September 11, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts