Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. That 1 offensive player is a huge get tho. We have our WR1 finally. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. Wellllll....the pick up on O probabaly outweighs the collective pick ups on D. Unless someone is looking at it with an agenda. 8 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 We have lost more on defense as well. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 A lot of that “defense” is largely ST, and BY FAR the largest and most important acquisition was on offense. We just got started in free agency. Let’s see this play out, then see what happens in the draft. (Spain is not unimportant.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I assume that they went harder on defense to replace Phillips, Lorax, Johnson and Lawson. McB probably believe that the draft is better suited for upgrading offensive positions this year. Plus, a lot of these defensive players have experience in McDs scheme.... They’ll be seamless fits in an abbreviated off-season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I think they bring in an RB still. Hopefully Miller or Freeman since Howard is gone. I wouldn't mind Crowell either. He has had some monster games when healthy. Maybe another TE or OT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Willing to bet they go offense in the draft. We (finally) have what shoukd be a solid offense. Every position has been addressed over the last few seasons. Tight end, wide receiver, running back, quarter back, o-line. Obviously we still need some pieces but I think they're in good shape 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Lost on Defense: Jordan Phillips Shaq Lawson Kevin Johnson Lorax Julian Stanford Should we play WR’s and RB’s on that side of the ball? 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Is Beane always going to prioritize defense but last year they signed 15 offensive players in free agency.... Edited March 18, 2020 by Royale with Cheese 14 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I think the last glaring need on the O is RT and I thought Nske was good when healthy which was about 3-4 games to start the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Lost on Defense: Jordan Phillips Shaq Lawson Kevin Johnson Lorax Julian Stanford Should we play WR’s and RB’s on that side of the ball? right. who did we lose on offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 four guys who know the system too, so seemless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Bills lost on defense CB-Kevin Johnson LB- Lorenzo Alexander DT- Jordan Phillips DE- Shaq Lawson DT- Corey Liuget LB- Stanford Offense- OG- Spain resigned RB- Gore (expect a signing and probably draft) WR- McKenzie- (see Diggs) Edited March 18, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Very likely we go RB in RD 2 or 3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Good replies. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I've been banging the drum that McD has prioritized the defense his first 2 seasons at the expense of the offense. The byproduct was their offense during the first half of 2018 and last year they were mostly below average. You could have made this point a year ago, but not anymore. Trading for Diggs combined with their focus on offensive skill types last year in UFA and the 2 third rounders is a major shift. This is a team that has been questioned about their offensive talent and they responded. So long as McD and Daboll use these guys appropriately, they've changed their direction. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 They needed to add four front 7 defenders and make it five if they cut Murphy. And they got the veteran WR. In a perfect world the WR would have been AJ Green in free agency and then use first round pick on OLB. But Diggs contract is great. So giving up the #1 is ok. Add a RB and OT in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 What offensive players are we missing out on? The playmaker side of things in FA is pretty bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Because, 1. They prioritized Offense last year in FA and the trade for a true, proven #1 WR is what they would have done in the draft without the NFL resume’ and 2. The Draft this year is loaded with great Offensive talent. Also, a slight aside, but RB is now the only Offensive position that really needs depth at this point in FA. And none of the signings preclude the Bills from taking any position (except QB) in rounds 2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 They were 24th in offense last year. So anyone that wants to point to last years FA and say that was enough needs to ask themselves whether or not 24th is good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Draft best RB in 2nd round, best OL in 3rd round. Done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. First true FA still has not started and you fail to add the rest of the guys resigned already: Offense: Croom Long Foster Kroft restructured these are all since the Norman signing. We have lost back-ups: McKenzie and Gore on offense. Phillips, Shaq, Alexander, and unsigned guys like DB Kevin Johnson, Kurt Coleman and many more on defense. Edited March 18, 2020 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Likely Draft. And looks like they are done on the DL maybe one more DE (thinking draft there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Free agency hasn’t even officially started yet. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I think right now we need a solid number two rb,draft or fa or both. Draft another wr...other than depth at oline I think we are set. Up until Diggs not sure I was personally satisfied we would find the wr we needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 In McD's first season as Bills HC he went defense, CB with that #1 pick in 2017. Even when he went QB, #7 overall with that 2018 first round draft pick he still went #16 overall on an ILBer. 2019 it was #9 overall a DT for the defense. Three years, three defensive first round picks. There is no question that the 2020 #22 overall went to the Vikings for WR Stefon Diggs. I don't see the Bills giving up the farm to move up into the first round this year...but hey, ya never know. What do they still need, Edge rusher, RB, RT, RG? You have to think that this scouting staff missed on a #2, #37 overall in WR Zay Jones. They missed on a #3, #7 for Kelvin Benjamin. Diggs is a sure fire home run this year and he is just coming into his prime. 17.9 yards per catch puts him at #4 with a 12.0 yards per target. Precise route runner that can out juke any DB out of his cleats and will get separation. Remember that Texans playoff game or the Ravens games where the Bills receivers were covered like blankets? Having to double Diggs will make the other Bills receivers better. I've read quite a lot that many consider Diggs better than Amari Cooper. The Bills got a receiver away from a team that really didn't want to trade him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I would love to see us draft offense. WR, TE, and RB. They wont have any pressure to come in and contribute and they could learn in a reserve capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: In McD's first season as Bills HC he went defense, CB with that #1 pick in 2017. Even when he went QB, #7 overall with that 2018 first round draft pick he still went #16 overall on an ILBer. 2019 it was #9 overall a DT for the defense. Three years, three defensive first round picks. There is no question that the 2020 #22 overall went to the Vikings for WR Stefon Diggs. I don't see the Bills giving up the farm to move up into the first round this year...but hey, ya never know. What do they still need, Edge rusher, RB, RT, RG? You have to think that this scouting staff missed on a #2, #37 overall in WR Zay Jones. They missed on a #3, #7 for Kelvin Benjamin. Diggs is a sure fire home run this year and he is just coming into his prime. 17.9 yards per catch puts him at #4 with a 12.0 yards per target. Precise route runner that can out juke any DB out of his cleats and will get separation. Remember that Texans playoff game or the Ravens games where the Bills receivers were covered like blankets? Having to double Diggs will make the other Bills receivers better. I've read quite a lot that many consider Diggs better than Amari Cooper. The Bills got a receiver away from a team that really didn't want to trade him. This trade is huge and the skill set is exactly what we needed to open up plays for the other guys. I still think we may slide one or 2 more surprises in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Draft will be 75% offense. RB WR OL WR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Offense gonna come through the draft. Defensive signings were mostly replacements of players let go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I feel like our run offense is good with an addition of a backup to motor. That should be easy to take care of either in the draft or I'm sure there are capable options in free agency still. I think Diggs was a big step in helping the passing game, perhaps add another WR in the draft and we should be ok, as long as Knox keeps growing. Our O-line should be ok as is, though I am not sure if Ford will truly be the answer at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Good replies. Didn't expect to scroll and see this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htt2821 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Likely Draft. And looks like they are done on the DL maybe one more DE (thinking draft there) I completely forgot about V. Taylor at DT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: They needed to add four front 7 defenders and make it five if they cut Murphy. And they got the veteran WR. In a perfect world the WR would have been AJ Green in free agency and then use first round pick on OLB. But Diggs contract is great. So giving up the #1 is ok. Add a RB and OT in the draft Diggs>Green 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. Keep in mind this is sort of the opposite of last year, where Beane signed Morse as the big FA, but also Kroft, Beasley, Brown, Nsekhe, Feliciano, Spain, Long, and Gore. Then we drafted Oliver in the 1st I think this may be the opposite - we spent our first round pick on a proven quality NFL WR and are trying to shore up a lot of defensive needs and gaps in FA. I dunno, I would have liked to see a bit more gap-shoring on offense - OL, RB - but FA hasn't even officially started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: They were 24th in offense last year. So anyone that wants to point to last years FA and say that was enough needs to ask themselves whether or not 24th is good enough. Should've worked "punk" in there somewhere. 31 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Draft best RB in 2nd round, best OL in 3rd round. Done. I'd like it if we used all our picks - they are OUR picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Free agency hasn’t even officially started yet. I think the OP made his move too soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I think right now we need a solid number two Agree - back in a minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) The thing with the offense is that they're not far off. They needed to add a stud. Diggs is a stud; a playmaker; a baller. Choose whichever word you like. The defensive signings are largely replacements and depth. My only areas of concern at the moment are a STUD edge and an interior offensive lineman capable of pushing people around. The roster is starting to look really solid, but I'd like to see something done there. If we don't sign a big time edge, and it appears we wont, I'm hoping that's where they go in round 2. Edited March 18, 2020 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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