Turk71 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Go 49ers ? No rings for Sammy and Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Dude also thinks he's some kind of reptile man so I'd take what he says with a grain of CTE...uh...salt. Yes, any alternative thinking means crazy. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Whaley's last ditch effort to save his crappy pick of EJ. He just thought if EJ looked passable he could keep his job. Now all 3 of them are off the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Dude also thinks he's some kind of reptile man so I'd take what he says with a grain of CTE...uh...salt. Edited January 30, 2020 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, HOUSE said: I was scarred after giving up 2 # 1s Maybe so, but you realize we didn’t actually “give up” 2 #1s...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, SWATeam said: 100% i assume his “not trusting coaches” comment is directed at Marrone who played him in the preseason with broken ribs. And Rex who brought him back off IR when he wasn't right to try and save his ass. 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Yea.... even for an American Sammy's English stinks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Honestly, I just don’t care at this point. Move on Sammy as I said about Reggie. I hope he does well Sunday, and just shut up moving forward. should go back to 1 week break before the SB and play it on Monday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, HOUSE said: Sammy Watkins, former first-round pick of the Buffalo Bills, said the team trading him in 2017 “helped him a lot.” The comments about the team that drafted him went downhill from there. “It left me scarred by just not trusting coaches in general,” Watkins told reporters via 13WHAM-TV during Super Bowl week in Miami ahead of Sunday’s Chiefs-49ers showdown. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/29/sammy-watkins-scarred-buffalo-bills-trade-didnt-want/ Are you sure he didn't say scared? I think it's a typo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I just look at the QB's taken in the 2nd round that year (Adams, Robinson, Landry, Richardson, Lee) and wonder whether it wouldn't be prudent to wait until then this year being such a deep class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: True. I didn’t fact check this, but did I hear the announcer right in the AFCC game when he said that was Watkins first TD since week 1? Its true. He also hadnt had a 100 yard game since then. Hes had one 1000 yard season in 2015 and never eclipsed 65 catches in a year. People want to believe he is a victim of circumstance, thing is when the circumstance changes and you get the same result maybe he just is what he is. We are in year six of this thing now, despite being paid well he is a low level number two wideout who produces more like a number three. He will be a cap casualty this offseason and from there who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Glassy Watkins. Perennial All-IR Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: So: confirms what we all knew (or most of us anyway). Sammy Watkins is soft. As GrandMaster Flash once famously said: "Step, step, step, step off, because ya gotta get lost, because ya know you're soft...uh-huh-huh..." Edited January 30, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Utah John said: There are at least two other former Bills on the Chiefs' squad, Shady McCoy and Reggie Ragland. I haven't heard either of them say a single negative thing about the Bills or Buffalo. McCoy was in a tough spot and things worked out great for him. He was clearly on the way down last year. No team wanted to trade for him due to the high contract cost he had. Cutting him was probably done with his best interest in mind. The Bills didn't expect to be a contender this past year, and letting McCoy pick his new team let him go to a contender, a plan that's worked out brilliantly for him. The Bills handled that situation with class and respect, and I think McCoy appreciated it. It's turned out that McCoy's decline has continued, and this is clearly going to be his last year before he retires. He's not the kind of guy who wants to be a backup, and he's too professional to want to play when he can't play well. Ragland was traded so early in his career and so long ago, and he's turned out to be so unremarkable, that no one seems to care what he thinks about Buffalo. Shady article - https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/28/lesean-mccoy-buffalo-bills-not-honest-brandon-beane/ Ragland article - I don't have Buffalo News but there was a thread talking about his comments on the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 another one of Doug Whaley's ACC creampuffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said: He's in a better place and we are, too. I look forward to him being scarred when we shut him down next year in the playoffs. Also, he's a flat-earther. That right there proves he is not to be listened to, with a brain that small there is not enough surface area to be scarred, flat-earther, to be that willfully stupid..., what a moron... Edited January 30, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Chaos said: Are you new to reading newspapers? Yes. 12 hours ago, NoSaint said: do you always feel so persecuted? Huh? Because I expect more of a journalist than to bait someone into a predictable response so that they can point their fingers and say “Aha! Buffalo isn’t a great place to live, work, and play after all! If Sammy says it’s true, it must be!” It’s stupid, lazy, and disappointing.Thats not “feeling persecuted”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 He's my classic case of not drafting dumb and emotionally immature players, regardless of the talent, which in his case evaporated after college. He's averaging 3.3 catches for 46 yards per game since he's been traded. He simply lacks the two things everyone is celebrating about Kobe Bryant: a desire to be great and a work ethic to match. So it's on the Bills for drafting this clown and on him for not rising to be what the physical gifts he was given suggested he could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Utah John said: There are at least two other former Bills on the Chiefs' squad, Shady McCoy and Reggie Ragland. I haven't heard either of them say a single negative thing about the Bills or Buffalo. McCoy was in a tough spot and things worked out great for him. He was clearly on the way down last year. No team wanted to trade for him due to the high contract cost he had. Cutting him was probably done with his best interest in mind. The Bills didn't expect to be a contender this past year, and letting McCoy pick his new team let him go to a contender, a plan that's worked out brilliantly for him. The Bills handled that situation with class and respect, and I think McCoy appreciated it. It's turned out that McCoy's decline has continued, and this is clearly going to be his last year before he retires. He's not the kind of guy who wants to be a backup, and he's too professional to want to play when he can't play well. Ragland was traded so early in his career and so long ago, and he's turned out to be so unremarkable, that no one seems to care what he thinks about Buffalo. McCoy was running his mouth recently about how bad the Bills did him and how they should have traded him last year, Ragland stated he was upset the Bills traded him without giving him the chance to show what he can do. All former players took there shots at the Bills. Sammy should not have been traded up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I liked the trade at the time for excitement purposes but then grew to resent it because... it was just too much to give up for a WR. Then I hated the trade sending him away but grew to understand it. Oh well, players come and go. Same for me. I thought, ok we got a supremely talented player this is going to be great. Then seeing how OBJ, Evans and Cooks all did and passing on Mack, ugh what a terrible deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Some of you are so sensitive. Of course he’s happier now. He played in a high school offense when he was here. It was a joke. He also had people questioning his toughness so he he rushed back too quickly from a foot injury that has never really healed. watkins didn’t have the career he was expected too. Yet, he’s been on the best offenses of the last 3 years, made the playoffs every year since leaving Buffalo, and is now playing in SB. And if you want to blame anyone, blame the media for baiting him with those questions. He really caused no problems here so I don’t really get the hostility. But no one wants their ex to be happy I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Expect A LOT more players in coming years expressing disappointment in their treatment by McBeane. Because that's the way it works.............if you are in charge of an NFL team long enough you disappoint players by cutting them, trading them, not giving them enough playing time etc.. I think what you are saying is Beane will move on from players when they don’t perform. Ragland- get what you can for him, was injured and didn’t fit system of coach. Watkins- talented but hurt often and never lived up to draft status. Get what you can for him. McCoy- on the downside of career. They wanted to see if he could transition into a mentor for Singletary. When it became apparent he couldn’t, he was released. All three of these particular players were dealt or released for very visible reasons. I wish them no ill, but soooo glad we have a GM who has a real pulse on the team and it’s players. Edited January 30, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: no one wants their ex to be happy I guess Not me ! My two exes both remarried within three years after our divorces, we were all happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Not me ! My two exes both remarried within three years after our divorces, we were all happy. Good for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Sammy is a headcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 hours ago, stevewin said: Wasn't sure if you were joking so looked it up - you weren't joking! https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/20/sammy-watkins-los-angeles-rams-earth-flat At least Kyrie recanted - wonder if that "scarred" poor Sammy He apparently recruited Geno Smith into the flat-earth game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Sean McDermott would kick Sammy’s ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Some of you are so sensitive. Of course he’s happier now. He played in a high school offense when he was here. It was a joke. He also had people questioning his toughness so he he rushed back too quickly from a foot injury that has never really healed. watkins didn’t have the career he was expected too. Yet, he’s been on the best offenses of the last 3 years, made the playoffs every year since leaving Buffalo, and is now playing in SB. And if you want to blame anyone, blame the media for baiting him with those questions. He really caused no problems here so I don’t really get the hostility. But no one wants their ex to be happy I guess Agreed. The Bills were a dysfunctional mess when Watkins was drafted, especially with Brandon, Whaley and Marrone running the clown show. Bills Brass saw how terrible EJ Manuel was, and felt their jobs were on the line with the Bills up for sale, so they had to scramble to sign Kyle Orton. After Orton retired and Marrone quit, Brandon duped the Pegula's to signing Rex Ryan, and ultimately, Tyrod Taylor became the starter. Taylor averaged between 150-200 yards a game with receivers like Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan, which was pathetic! So after three years of that, it's no reason why he felt the way he did. Losing year after year sucks and it starts to impact certain players (see the Sabres). Now with McBeane trading Watkins, IMO they felt he wasn't a team first guy, had problems staying healthy and wasn't going to be in their long term plans, so they traded him. Hopefully guys like Watkins, Dareus and McCoy will be the last to bash the Bills. I think McBeane and the Pegula's have done a great job of building a good culture in Buffalo. As long as McBeane and the Pegula's continue a building/having a good culture, the national stigma that has been plaguing the Bills for years will finally go away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, eball said: Ha. The order in which you wrote those paragraphs says a lot. It’s pretty clear you know you can’t really level criticism at what McD and Beane have done, but because they didn’t do it the way you would have you just can’t help yourself. Oh there is plenty to be critical of........but the vague opinions of former players who left under less than amicable(read: "normal") circumstances is not one of them. Everybody's feelings get hurt when they don't get treated like they want. McCoy is the prime example.........all they did was throw money at that guy..........Rex/Whaley tore up his Eagles deal that still had 3 years left and allowed him to double dip...........then McBeane gave him $2M bonus in summer of 2017 to help sell "the process". And he's still got beef with the team for how he was treated. Whatcha' gonna' do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said: He's in a better place and we are, too. I look forward to him being scarred when we shut him down next year in the playoffs. Also, he's a flat-earther. I wonder what team he'll be on that you are shutting down. He'll be a FA this offseason. Maybe the Colts or Jags bring him in? Or possibly the Jets? 10 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Man, Buffalo’s really taking a beating lately. Pro bowl players rate Buffalo the worst place to play. Ragland and Sammy talking before their super bowl about how happy they were to be saved from us. Top free agents at the pro bowl saying we’re an undesirable destination. How is Buffalo such a hot topic at the pro bowl and before the super bowl? Makes no sense. I've never been to Buffalo. It looks like a fine town to me, but I like snow and wings. I think while the town itself probably doesn't have a great rep, the actual football team hasn't recently been a squad that most top guys would think was about to go to the SB. Maybe that perception changes if Allen takes another step and Buffalo wins a playoff game or 2 in 2020. Ultimately, 95% of guys will go if the Bills are the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 He should be apologetic because we could have drafted Mack over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Sig1Hunter said: Yes. Huh? Because I expect more of a journalist than to bait someone into a predictable response so that they can point their fingers and say “Aha! Buffalo isn’t a great place to live, work, and play after all! If Sammy says it’s true, it must be!” It’s stupid, lazy, and disappointing.Thats not “feeling persecuted”. it’s the thinking they are out to get Buffalo part that I was pointing out. The reporter almost certainly didn’t care about who the team was and any young top pick that was traded would see a similar question. They aren’t out to get you/us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Remember when Leroi said Sammy actually suffered his infamous foot injury by getting it caught in a pothole at Disney? I wonder what happened to old Leroi. OBD is so buttoned up these days. I do remember that and I've been trying to substantiate that claim ever since. No luck finding a single mention of it online. Edited January 30, 2020 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 KC gave him $30M guaranteed , he is set for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 In Sammy's last 3 years he has yet to eclipse the production he realized in his first two years in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I do remember that and I've been trying to substantiate that claim ever since. No luck finding a single mention of it online. I don’t know why I believe Leroi on this but I do. It seems too bizarre to be made up. And he did go to Disney that spring. Also it’s just the Bills luck to have this happen, like Kevin kolb and the wet mats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: McCoy was running his mouth recently about how bad the Bills did him and how they should have traded him last year, Ragland stated he was upset the Bills traded him without giving him the chance to show what he can do. All former players took there shots at the Bills. Sammy should not have been traded up for. Players get cut or traded all the time in the NFL - especially overpaid ones like McCoy. Sorry - we tried to trade you but no one wanted you for that much money. Sorry Reggie - zone defense is apparently too complex for you to understand. Sammy was on an expiring deal for a team going no where - take the picks. Still went to the playoffs, and he got hurt - cuz he always gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 15 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Sour Grapes. Rarely will a player ever say nice things about a team that didnt want him - Dareus, Sammy, Shady etc. The narrative coming from the players in the locker room is what I care about at this point. Did I miss something Shady said? He called Buffalo a special place . Praised the fan base.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The guy has had a few good games since he left. He is not a dominating receiver and disappears for long stretches. Good trade for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: it’s the thinking they are out to get Buffalo part that I was pointing out. The reporter almost certainly didn’t care about who the team was and any young top pick that was traded would see a similar question. They aren’t out to get you/us My point is that no media outside of Buffalo gives a rats patoot about Buffalo - which is good. So, why the leading questions about “how did it feel to be traded from Buffalo and now be playing for a super bowl?” from the Buffalo media? I highly, highly doubt it is the national media asking those questions. I don’t give a darn about outsiders pooping on the team and town, it’s the city’s own media that seemingly wants to bring the fans back to “reality” about the franchise that gets under my skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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