SoCal Deek Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Agent 91 said: Shouldnt have come to that I disagree. That was when the momentum was still in play. Duke has the first down in field goal range. That drive continues and the Bills go on to win in regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful Dodger Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Defense. Can’t give up 19 straight points. Why not? Normal offenses can score. 19 points is a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffbills716 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. And a great many mistakes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, NOVA fan said: Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. Sense you make? Not allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, NOVA fan said: Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. Plenty of blame to go around but Allen's play I thought is pretty low on the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In chronological order: 1. The overthrow by 6 inches to Smoke 2. The Duke EZ drop 3. The JJ Watt sack 4. the drop in intensity and lapses in concentration by the defence 5. A series of bone headed plays by Josh 6. The teflon tackling of Watson at various stages 7. The dodgy spot on the Hopkins reception in OT 8. The colossally bad zone setup on 3rd and 18 9. The missed double chance sack by Milano and ?? All underpinned by some mind boggling play calling on offense. Yeah, there's definitely room for improvement next season. Now bring on the draft - after I get severely drunk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Why not? Normal offenses can score. 19 points is a good day You have to man up and stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Note how many folks mention Allen in these posts! It's a fanbase in total denial. How do you mean? You absolve him from blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 not saying john cost us, but he looked off ,didnt know where the sidelines where 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. Heart is nice, but Watson had heart too in addition to the headiness to not make atrocious decisions when his team needs him to lead. I lost about all faith in Josh on that moronic lateral. He’s a great athlete with heart, but I don’t see the promised land as long as he’s pulling the trigger. A long, deep, cross field throw to your fullback is not much better. Before you say Josh is young, Watson is only 8 months older and makes good decisions when needed. Josh loses his mind when things get intense against legit competition. To answer the original question though, this was a team loss. Way too many errors to put it on any one person. PLENTY of blame to go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 BS block call. Numerous uncalled delay of games. Bad spot for a first down. Two(!!!) guys missing the block on Cunningham on the QB sweep. Effing infuriating. The whole D backfield dropping too deep in n 3/18. JA missing Duke on a low throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, familykwi said: Heart is nice, but Watson had heart too in addition to the headiness to not make atrocious decisions when his team needs him to lead. I lost about all faith in Josh on that moronic lateral. He’s a great athlete with heart, but I don’t see the promised land as long as he’s pulling the trigger. A long, deep, cross field throw to your fullback is not much better. Before you say Josh is young, Watson is only 8 months older and makes good decisions when needed. Josh loses his mind when things get intense against legit competition. To answer the original question though, this was a team loss. Way too many errors to put it on any one person. PLENTY of blame to go round. Allen played pretty much on par with Watson tonight. The lateral cost the Bills exactly nothing. The Bills lost tonight because the coaches took the foot off the gas. Allen was, and has been many times during the season the Bills entire offense. Edited January 5, 2020 by thenorthremembers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Brian Daboll McD/ Frazier Duke Williams Allen Defensive backfield ( 3rd and 18) Milano Edited January 5, 2020 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: I put it on the Head coach. Game was there to be put away by halftime but his conservativeness left ot open like many times this season. This absolutely has to change This. McDermott got the lead and went conservative with almost all runs. He let Houston hang around and they found a way to seize the momentum. Don't microanalyze the individual failures. It's not on Daboll. Look at the game he called to that point. He was told under McD to limit the playcalling. Continuous improvement Sean. You neutered our offense and it was the beginning of the end. You had Houston on the mat and instead of that last finishing move for the pin, you were content to ride on their backs hoping the lead would hold up. Not good for our offense's confidence either. Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan of McD overall and glad he's our coach. He just needs to modify his philosophy here. We do need to grow up also. Great season though. Obvious optimism for the future!8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1st and 10. Off tackle to gore. Spike. Near TD to duke. FG. Bills up 13-0 waste two plays and be conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Defense & Going Conservative in big spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Watson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, jav said: Coaching 1)You can't play not to lose: punting from 40 yd line on 4th and 5 when you're up 16-0 with all the momentum 2)Holding back blitz multiple times in obvious passing situations--if you give an NFL QB enough time--especially a good one--he will find an open WR 3)Time management at end of first half, bungling an opportunity to go for TD instead of settle for FG 4)Underutilizing Singletary (Gore should see the field only to give Singletary a breather) and Beasley Milano--how many tackles can one guy miss? Cody Ford--he's not a RT, he 's a RG: give him help and/or move him inside--see coaching above ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You have to man up and stop them. They were put in tough spots, but they did their job. 3 TDs wins this game. 3. 21 points a game is pedestrian and that's all we needed to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 FGs instead of TDs when we had control of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Agent 91 said: They were put in tough spots, but they did their job. 3 TDs wins this game. 3. 21 points a game is pedestrian and that's all we needed to do Offense could have done more. Duke catches the ball in the end zone, better blocking, etc. but the question seemed to me to be pick one thing that cost the game. And you can’t just give up 19 points in a row like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Scoring field goals instead of touchdowns. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 DeShaun Watson. That last play was sick, what can you say. And I just realized it was to Taiwan freaking Jones, of all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Brian Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: add the defense giving up the 3rd and 18 not to mention 19 pts in the second half But it all points to the coaches The clock expired as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Morse. If he makes the block, Allen runs the ball into field goal range in OT. Poyer. If the guy could finish a tackle, the game is completely different at 16-6. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Team loss. Plain and simple. Lost their ability to execute and put this game out of reach in the second half. I knew they could not shut out the Texans but 19 straight including 2 two point conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Frank Gore lost us the game. Singletary had 4.5 YPC. Gore had 2.8 YPC. Yet he had 8 rushes to Singlerary's 13 rushes. One of his rushes went for 14 yards, the other 7 averaged 1 yard per carry. That's 7 plays in a close football game that we essentially threw away. I don't think any other player in this game had that many wasted plays, not even Allen. Worst of all, 2 of those rushes were on the 2 most critical drives of the game. Oh did I say Frank Gore? I meant Brian Daboll. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Defense. Can’t give up 19 straight points. True. But offense must score more than 19 (season average). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ILBillsfan said: add the defense giving up the 3rd and 18 not to mention 19 pts in the second half But it all points to the coaches They gave up too many 3rd and longs all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) -duke -3rd and 18 -Milano and Neal whiff -Daboll Edited January 5, 2020 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 plays I think that contributed most to the loss ... the 3rd and 18 on defense, the bull crap blindside block play, the Duke drop in the end zone and the Allen fumble. Honorable mention goes to the play where Milano and Neal both blitzed perfectly and got home for a would be 12 yard sack and likely drive ender and ended up keeping Watson upright magically and then he rolls out and hits the rb who runs for 30 more yards. Sigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 McD is responsible for Gore wasting about 7 plays Daboll is not getting a HC job and I guess he will be back. That playcalling was weird, in the 1st half is was aggressive and in the 2nd half and OT it was just ugly. Allen is the QB and shoulders the loss, that was utterly horrid QB play from the 3rd Qtr to OT. One thing is for sure, being 6'5 does not mean you can see the field. Bree's is 6'0 and has 100 times better field vision and awareness than Allen. If guys are running wide open but Allen just can't see them is Daboll doing a bad job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen's fumble was tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanderPoke Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The TWO Bills blockers who missed the block on the designed QB run in OT where they let the Texans LB light up Josh cost us the game. How did he not get blocked??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: Couple huge WR flubs, Brown and Duke. Running Gore in 2020, Dumbell Josh fumbling the ball away. Defense getting small in big time. Forgot the oline. End of the game there was a play where they didn't touch freakin JJ Watt. Yeah, how did neither Josh or Morse recognize that nobody was there to block him? Also, empty backfield again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: The "Committee of Common Sense Prevails" officials who decided the called Bills TD wasn't a TD. was bizarre hearing John Parry and Booger McFarland chant “common sense prevails! Common sense prevails!!!!!!!” for like three whole minutes after the reversal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen made some bad decisions and took terrible sacks that he never should have. I'd place the bulk of the blame on him. But I think he deserves the bulk of the credit for having us in the game in the first place. On specific plays in over time, the defense choked. On the 3rd and 18 they did a terrible job keeping the play in front of them and making the tackle (which is strange because they are normally good at that). On the Watson would-be sack, they didn't wrap him up. They just hit him. This defense needs some more fundamental tackling drills. I didn't like the wasted time and going for a field goal at the end of the 1st half. They should have tried to score. So that's on the coaching staff. So it's a team loss to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ILBillsfan said: add the defense giving up the 3rd and 18 not to mention 19 pts in the second half But it all points to the coaches I was at the game the coach is went into that prevent pretty much the whole game and especially in the second half. They hardly blitzed. McD better stop being so conservative he’s going to find himself without a job pretty soon he always tries to shorten the game by doing that in the second half and it backfires Edited January 5, 2020 by popcornpam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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