Buffbills716

How many sticks of dynamite have to go off in your head to get it--the Bills had their shot. We had a good five years. Now, due to age and contract issues, this team has many holes to fill, and unless McD finds the courage to make real changes to his staff, and Beane has to abilty to finally draft what we need, we will be lucky to go 9-8 next year.

"Allen is going to be a meteor at this rate. We're seeing the Cam Newton treatment all over again, with some Big and some Andrew Luck is sprinkled n there. Our guy will not have a long or productive career because he's being used as a battering ram and will degrade, quickly." This could not be more true!!! When my son and I drove up from Virginia to see the Packers game, we could tell something was really wrong with the offense. I believe it goes south from here.

Sure, that was it.

Wait for Chandler 81. He is always good for one.

Amen to that!

No Payton did.

For all those who said an ugly win is a win, well it came back to haunt us today!

I think he had a solid B performance today.

That he is. He just needs to keep his head when the pressure is on.

I agree. This is what was concerning me going into this season. Hopefully, he was just rusty.

I support Allen. I am just concerned that he may not reach that next level.

I wish the reporter pushed back--saying something to the effect of "well, you normally say, 'we gotta get ready for next week, but there is no next week, so can you please answer the question?'"

Get rid of Star and Lee Smith.

I agree with you on Daboll.

After yesterday, I do not see the upside. JP/TT could throw the long ball, and EJ could run (average), but they lacked the skills necessary to take it to the next level. Allen is similar in that he has the skills, but not the touch and aptitude an NFL QB needs to succeed. Maybe that's why he is the 24th ranked passer who has played against some pretty easy defenses this year. A QB's primary job to throw, not run.

Good question. Who's available?

They went 10-6 based on strength of schedule and their defense. Allen was a part of it, but overall, I saw things in him (errant passing, poor decision making, poor throws, staring down receivers) that I saw in EJ and JP.

Good argument. I was just trying to point out that stats alone do not define a QB. Every time Kelly dropped back to pass in '86 for example, I thought something big was going to happen (even with Hank Bullough at the reigns). With Allen, I get knots. I like him, and know that with better talent and an effective OC, he should do well.

Stats tell one story, actual play tells the other. How many of those Kelly completions kept drives going, where they didn't have to settle for a FG or at the least, gave the defense a rest? There was only one other season ( I believe it was in '90 or '91) where Kelly had more yards in a single season--the other? The 4-12 '86 season. Stats are important, but I would take a QB who makes smart decisions, takes what the defense gives him, and recognizes that he can't put everything on his shoulders, and shouldn't try to force/make things happen on a regular basis. Allen needs to learn when to take his foot off the gas. He has come a long way, and I am rooting for him, but he needs to think rather than react.

A microcosm of what is wrong with Daboll. I thought the same thing yesterday.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

I agree. But my frustration is that I and others saw this coming with Allen all year. I knew we could keep up with any team, but had serous doubts in an offense that had as much trouble scoring points on lousy teams as it did on good ones. Allen is to blame for most of that, but Daboll should have had the foresight to adjust to Allen's weaknesses and simplified the playbook, giving him the confidence to compensate for those weaknesses. Couple that with a lack of offensive rhythm and head-scratching play calls only added to Allen's anxiety and the feeling that he had to do more than he should have. I know if I had accuracy issues, the last thing I would want my OC to do is put me in multiple 3rd and long situations, forcing me to make the very throws I am having trouble with. Having a release value to go to when in trouble as opposed to just taking off and running all the time would have been the right thing to instill in him. Trying to "get it all" with 20 yard throws was just mind boggling as well. There is no shame in dumping it off to a running back or TE when in trouble, and for the life of me, cannot understand why Daboll/McD did not chastise him for not doing on a regular basis. Hell, even Barkley could do that! This only makes me think that either Allen is not too bright, not being coached well, or a combination of the two. Wake him up by benching him for a series or two if need be. If he is not listening in practice, then maybe he will in front of an audience! Either way, something must be done, or we are in for a very long next season!

Except for one thing--we had Kelly.

Or keep Daboll. I think the Bills should keep the playbook simple for Allen (i.e., get rid of Daboll) and get him some talent to support him. If they do that, and I we are still screwing around with field goals/missed opportunities instead of TDs, then yes, cut the cord.

After three years, it won't be me, but the Bills. He needs a decent OC if he ever hopes to take it to the next level.