inthebuff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Quote Another running back who could possibly make a quick return to the market, Gordon's future with the Chargers remains in question. His holdout turned out to be a waste of time, as the Chargers didn't give in to his demands, while Austin Ekeler impressed as the primary back in Gordon's absence. In his 2019 debut Sunday, Gordon carried the ball 12 times for 31 yards and turned six targets into seven receiving yards in a 20-13 loss to the Broncos. The loss dropped the Chargers to 2-3 in advance of a home game against the Steelers on Sunday. The former first-round pick has just under $3.3 million left in prorated salary on his deal. I don't think the Chargers are desperate to move on from Gordon -- they could wait out this final year and then either franchise him or pick up a compensatory pick in the 2021 draft -- but if he struggles and the Chargers lose to the Steelers and Titans in advance of the Oct. 29 trade deadline, would L.A. consider moving on from Gordon and going with Ekeler as its starter? The trade: Buffalo Bills send a 2020 third-round pick and RB T.J. Yeldon to the Chargers for Gordon and a 2020 fifth-round pick After beating the Titans on Sunday, the 4-1 Bills have an 74.3% shot of making it to the playoffs, per ESPN's Football Power Index. FPI had the Bills at only 18% before the season, so the hot start has them in a different place and with different expectations than where they were before 2019 began. Getting Gordon would give the Bills another valuable option for Josh Allen, who rebounded from a dismal performance against the Patriots in Week 4 with arguably his best game of the year against the Titans in Week 5. Allen's struggles against the Pats pointed out just how much Buffalo will need its running game and receivers to make an impact with the ball in their hands against top-level competition. Buffalo has Frank Gore and rookie Devin Singletary in the backfield, but Gore is 36 and Singletary has missed the past three games with a hamstring injury. Can the Bills get by with that duo into January? Maybe. Gore and Singletary could still have viable roles in the offense even after adding Gordon, though, and the Bills could either choose to re-sign the Chargers standout or go after a compensatory pick during the offseason. Should the Bills make the suggested trade? Or should we stand pat with the running back by committee we have? I'd rather stand pat and develop Singletary with Gore as the mentor, rather than trade for Gordon and limit Singletary's touches and progression. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I don't see this. You dont give away assets for a position that you don't need. Beane is way smarter than that. We don't NEED a RB. Now, if we're talking a 3 and Zay for Diggs and a 5, I'm all in. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The issue I'd have with Barnwell's thought is don't want to wait another two games for this to happen. I'd tell San Diego make the trade this week or we'll look elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I love how the article says "different expectations" The outside perception of this team pre-season was SOOO different than our perception. It's so weird how everyone thought we would be a bad team, even with returning 10 starters on defense and drafting Oliver. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Never going to happen. Chargers would look foolish. They will pay him the $3.3 mil and get a comp pick for him, or if he lights up up this year franchise him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, inthebuff said: Should the Bills make the suggested trade? Or should we stand pat with the running back by committee we have? I'd rather stand pat and develop Singletary with Gore as the mentor, rather than trade for Gordon and limit Singletary's touches and progression. I wouldn't give up a third round pick, maybe a 5 and Yeldon with no pick in return. But the Bills running game is hurting, defenses are keying on Allen and not worrying too much about the run. Gore is great in spots, but he's not a lead back. Maybe Singletary can be the lead guy with Gore filling in for the tough yardage, but it definitely won't hurt his progress to bring in an elite back to watch and learn from. Edited October 7, 2019 by ricojes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, inthebuff said: Should the Bills make the suggested trade? Or should we stand pat with the running back by committee we have? I'd rather stand pat and develop Singletary with Gore as the mentor, rather than trade for Gordon and limit Singletary's touches and progression. I would be fine if we made the trade as suggested, but I’m not stressing on the RB position as Gore has been fine with Singletary out and Singletary was a huge spark before he got hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I don't see this. You dont give away assets for a position that you don't need. Beane is way smarter than that. We don't NEED a RB. Now, if we're talking a 3 and Zay for Diggs and a 5, I'm all in. Really not giving up much in the way of assets though other than Yeldon. Suppose the Bills don't sign him at years end, believe they'd get a 3rd rounder back in comp pick so basically traded Gordon and a 5th for Yeldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 We have Singletary. Don't need Gordon. A RT or WR is another story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Man that would be a horrible trade for the Chargers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 If you can make that deal for Trent Williams, maybe. For Gordon? No. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TC in St. Louis Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I like the team as is. Singletary should be ready to go for the Miami game. Hopefully the OL is in good health as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 A third and yeldon for a 5th and gordon, I do that trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Such a misleading title and I absolutely hate the idea. Edited October 7, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I love how the article says "different expectations" The outside perception of this team pre-season was SOOO different than our perception. It's so weird how everyone thought we would be a bad team, even with returning 10 starters on defense and drafting Oliver. To be fair, the Bills were the 30th ranked passing offense last year and scored few points. While some of the predictions seemed very low, it’s not as if they were returning a potent offense to the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Such a misleading title and I absolutely the idea. Don't leave us in suspense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Man that would be a horrible trade for the Chargers. Chargers aren’t going to get a great deal for Gordon. However, I’d pass on this deal and try to improve the passing game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, billsfan1959 said: Don't leave us in suspense It’s how you build up hype for the sequel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Just more baseless babble from a "Hey, look at me", I am an insightful football guy. Make more sense speculating what's the next stupid stunt a Bills fan attempts that ends up on social media for this season. Though, it'll be pretty tough to top Explosion guy and Over the railing face plant guy. Edited October 7, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Big No. Frank's been amazing and Devin will be back 100% for Miami. And we can draft another RB in April as insurance for Gore. And finally there's still Murphy available who can give you decent carries. We have options but no to Gordon. Edited October 7, 2019 by LABILLBACKER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I just dont think this is the way Daboll and McBeane want to build the offense. If all we were missing was a talented RB to compliment Gore and SIngletary while also being able to catch when needed we never would have gotten rid of McCoy. We would look pretty dumb IMO to cut Shady and then trade for Gordon. Of course Gordon is younger but for the 1-year fill in role he likely wouldnt be that much of an upgrade over McCoy, certainly not enough to tip the scales enough to make as a SB contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Initial reaction was a hard pass, but after reading into it, and how we'd probably get back that 3rd anyway if we don't resign him after the year.... I mean..... If Diggs costs us a 1st as a lower tier #1, is that better than trading away a 3rd for Gordon - assuming we sign him long term? If we don't, we get back that 3rd in a comp pick, most likely. I'm certainly over paying big money to running backs, but Gordon is also big in the passing game. It's intriguing at the very least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, ricojes said: I wouldn't give up a third round pick, maybe a 5 and Yeldon with no pick in return. But the Bills running game is hurting, defenses are keying on Allen and not worrying too much about the run. Gore is great in spots, but he's not a lead back. Maybe Singletary can be the lead guy with Gore filling in for the tough yardage, but it definitely won't hurt his progress to bring in an elite back to watch and learn from. I would make this trade in a heart beat. I don't think Gordon is an "elite" back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Nope. Gordon doesn't seem like a process guy to me. If they swing a trade, it will likely be for depth. Probably at LB or OT. Before yesterday, I would have said WR, but Duke looks like he could be that guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think some are missing the salient point here. Even if we only get him for this year - he's $3.3 million we have and we get back the pick we give up PLUS we get a 5th rounder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Never going to happen. Chargers would look foolish. They will pay him the $3.3 mil and get a comp pick for him, or if he lights up up this year franchise him. I agree. There’s no way this trade happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: We have Singletary. Don't need Gordon. A RT or WR is another story. Plus I wouldn't want to have to deal with contract negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I don't see this. You dont give away assets for a position that you don't need. Beane is way smarter than that. We don't NEED a RB. Now, if we're talking a 3 and Zay for Diggs and a 5, I'm all in. Singletary is too small to be a two down back even, and probably just perfect for the role they were using him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Gore & Gordon would be too much of a tongue twister.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 It doesn't seem like a trade the Chargers would make but if I were Bills front office/coaches I would seriously think about it. Adding Gordon would certainly upgrade the RB position. My second thought on the trade terms was do you think the Patriots would make that trade for Gordon? Getting Gordon and a 5th for their 3rd RB and a 3rd for minimally about 1/2 season rental, or a comp pick if he goes free agency, or signing him to a longer term deal. I bet they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, timekills17 said: I think some are missing the salient point here. Even if we only get him for this year - he's $3.3 million we have and we get back the pick we give up PLUS we get a 5th rounder. Wow. Thanks for the clarification. Why would the Bills NOT do this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think I'm using my capital to bring in a WR who is a threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, ricojes said: I wouldn't give up a third round pick, maybe a 5 and Yeldon with no pick in return. But the Bills running game is hurting, defenses are keying on Allen and not worrying too much about the run. Gore is great in spots, but he's not a lead back. Maybe Singletary can be the lead guy with Gore filling in for the tough yardage, but it definitely won't hurt his progress to bring in an elite back to watch and learn from. Gore had a fantastic game as the lead back against the best defense in the league, and is on pace with his career average of 4.4 yards per carry. But aside from that, yeah we'll have Singletary going forward even though I wouldn't be opposed to renting Gordon for the playoff run. Just not sure about the logistics of compensatory picks in that situation. 7 minutes ago, Socal-805 said: Wow. Thanks for the clarification. Why would the Bills NOT do this?? Would basically be highway robbery if true, thus it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 That is a very good deal for the Bills. I would pull the trigger. Singletary has missed 3 games. It seems possible it can happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I think I'm using my capital to bring in a WR who is a threat. We have Duke Williams on the roster now. Brown/Beasley/Duke as a core isn't good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 56 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I don't see this. You dont give away assets for a position that you don't need. Beane is way smarter than that. We don't NEED a RB. Now, if we're talking a 3 and Zay for Diggs and a 5, I'm all in. ...allegedly he turned down $10 mil/yr from Chargers...rumored to be looking for $13 mil....not in McBeane's wheelhouse IMO... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 We have singletary and gore. This would be a Billsy move of old. WRs and lineman. That's all I would entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: We have Duke Williams on the roster now. Brown/Beasley/Duke as a core isn't good enough? Not for me. I'd like to swing a deal for someone who could slide into 1 slot and still use the guys you have and Foster, McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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