CaptnCoke11 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 He’s definitely add that homerun threat to our running game. Just don’t see Beane dealing for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Misleading thread title; please fix. Barnwell is not reporting speculation about a potential trade that's about to go down; he's merely saying what he would do if he were the Bills' GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Doesnt matter if he's a process guy or not. We dont need RBs, we need pass catchers. No need to waste resources on Gordon, just to have to waste a huge amount of cap space on him. No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Wouldn't make sense at all considering Bills anointed Singletary as the back of the future. If there was a question, they wouldn't have cut Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I rather see WR, pass rush/D line depth or O line be added in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Singletary is the RB, he's cheap for the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 While I agree that we may have other needs, some of which may be more pressing as the season progresses, I would do this deal. I think it is unrealistic to think that Gore will stay healthy for all of our remaining games and that Singletary will be fully healed from his hamstring injury for the remainder of the season. Gordon may not be elite, but he is more than solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, ricojes said: Maybe Singletary can be the lead guy with Gore filling in for the tough yardage, but it definitely won't hurt his progress to bring in an elite back to watch and learn from. Yeah, let's bring in Emmitt Smith, dig up Sweetness, and Bring back Barry... oh wait... Frank Gore is about to supplant him on the all-time elite list of RB's in history... Gore IS elite, in terms of knowledge and experience. You can't get much more elite, in terms of someone to learn under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The issue I'd have with Barnwell's thought is don't want to wait another two games for this to happen. I'd tell San Diego make the trade this week or we'll look elsewhere. agreed, do it now or never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 No. Gordon is a very mediocre back. Not sure why anyone thinks he's elite. Gore and Singletary are both better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Singletary is the RB, he's cheap for the next 3-4 years. He looks great, but he's also a rookie who is undersized and injured. Gore is 36 years old, and while he's also played great, you have to wonder where his health will be 8 games from now. If Gore or Singletary go down around game 11, the Bills will be stuck with Yeldon, who the coaches do not seem to trust. The trade as proposed (which probably will never happen) does not replace Gore or Singletary, it replaces Yeldon with a better rental player for a playoff run. The team is no longer in a rebuilding mode. If they are serious about making a run, they will have to consider these types of deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Not happening. They drafted Singletary to be the guy, was evident when they got rid of Shady. Gore is just there as backup and Yeldon as 3rd on depth chart. Gordon isnt coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Jerboski said: A third and yeldon for a 5th and gordon, I do that trade Not me, Gordon looked horrible against the Broncos yesterday and he's looking for a big pay day. I agree we could use another RB yet not sure Gordon the guy I'd pursue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, inthebuff said: Should the Bills make the suggested trade? Or should we stand pat with the running back by committee we have? I'd rather stand pat and develop Singletary with Gore as the mentor, rather than trade for Gordon and limit Singletary's touches and progression. That trade is fleecing san Diego. No way I do that if I'm them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: Just more baseless babble from a "Hey, look at me", I am an insightful football guy. Make more sense speculating what's the next stupid stunt a Bills fan attempts that ends up on social media for this season. Though, it'll be pretty tough to top Explosion guy and Over the railing face plant guy. ...ahhhhhh..I was young once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Is OJ eligible? He's a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Not me, Gordon looked horrible against the Broncos yesterday and he's looking for a big pay day. I agree we could use another RB yet not sure Gordon the guy I'd pursue. The layoff probably has to do with his ineffectiveness, give him a few weeks and I assume he will be back to form. The price tag is concerning but Melvin is a beast when in form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Big No. Frank's been amazing and Devin will be back 100% for Miami. And we can draft another RB in April as insurance for Gore. And finally there's still Murphy available who can give you decent carries. We have options but no to Gordon. I think you have to look at it from the following perspective. If you make deal for Gordon for 3rd or less you do so knowing full well he is walking after this year. We would then be in line for a comp pick as I wouldn't attempt to Tag him. In terms of this year and making that push for the playoffs he would be useful piece in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 When I first read this thread, I thought it was a completed deal and I was like..................... "What the F"?............. the last thing the Bills should have done is trade for a RB. Then I saw "speculation" and then I was like "bullet dodged" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: He looks great, but he's also a rookie who is undersized and injured. Gore is 36 years old, and while he's also played great, you have to wonder where his health will be 8 games from now. If Gore or Singletary go down around game 11, the Bills will be stuck with Yeldon, who the coaches do not seem to trust. The trade as proposed (which probably will never happen) does not replace Gore or Singletary, it replaces Yeldon with a better rental player for a playoff run. The team is no longer in a rebuilding mode. If they are serious about making a run, they will have to consider these types of deals. They can alway bring back Murphy or Ivory. Neither of which will have to learn the playbook. They aren’t great talents, but they’re plug and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The trade deadline seems intriguing this year. Does anyone sense that Beane may address the offense and defense? Now that the Bills have a better idea of where they stand...reinforcements on the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Jerboski said: A third and yeldon for a 5th and gordon, I do that trade And then go through another circus type holdout at seasons end because he’s expecting 15 mil a year. No thanks! He’s not elite. Zeke, Kamara, Barkley, Bell, Gurley (when healthy) are elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The trade deadline seems intriguing this year. Does anyone sense that Beane may address the offense and defense? Now that the Bills have a better idea of where they stand...reinforcements on the way? Doubtful 9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: And then go through another circus type holdout at seasons end because he’s expecting 15 mil a year. No thanks! He’s not elite. Zeke, Kamara, Barkley, Bell, Gurley (when healthy) are elite. He’s a pending free agent after this season so there won’t be any holdout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'd like to have one more back but that's because I'm not huge on Yeldon. It would feel better going down the stretch to have a solid 3rd option with Singletary's possible injury and Gore's wear and tear. I wouldn't want to pay big for Gordon though. I think he's kind of a tweener where he's pretty good but not great, but will likely get paid as great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 In a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'm skeptical about a trade. Beane has shown he is fiscally cautious and Gordon wants to be one of the highest paid RBs in the league. That mean's he's essentially a rent-a-player, as somebody will pay Gordon more than he's worth as soon as he becomes a free agent. Beane won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, TigerJ said: I'm skeptical about a trade. Beane has shown he is fiscally cautious and Gordon wants to be one of the highest paid RBs in the league. That mean's he's essentially a rent-a-player, as somebody will pay Gordon more than he's worth as soon as he becomes a free agent. Beane won't. Wasn't that part of the justification though? If we did this deal we'd give yeldon and a 2020 3rd for Gordon and a 2020 5th. If Gordon just plays out the year and signs big somewhere else we would get, potentially, a 2021 3rd round comp pick if his contract is high enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I’m all for adding another RB, but I’m not sure there isn’t a street free agent that can do the trick. Never paying Gordon what he wants so it would be a strict one year rental. Not interested in giving up any assets for that and I suspect Beane would feel the same way. Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Wasn't that part of the justification though? If we did this deal we'd give yeldon and a 2020 3rd for Gordon and a 2020 5th. If Gordon just plays out the year and signs big somewhere else we would get, potentially, a 2021 3rd round comp pick if his contract is high enough. I didn’t really look at this aspect of it. In that case, sign me up. But also in that case, wouldn’t the Chargers just be better off using him this year and then letting him walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: I didn’t really look at this aspect of it. In that case, sign me up. But also in that case, wouldn’t the Chargers just be better off using him this year and then letting him walk? Yeah, I don't see them moving him tbh. But the ultimate outcome for us in this hypothetical is we trade a 2020 3rd to upgrade Yeldon to Gordon for the year and get a 2020 5th and 2021 3rd in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 NO to Gordon - not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthebuff Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, mannc said: Misleading thread title; please fix. Barnwell is not reporting speculation about a potential trade that's about to go down; he's merely saying what he would do if he were the Bills' GM. I fixed the title so it was clearer that it was Bill Barnwell's speculation. It's not a deal nor is it even proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 20 22 26 Nah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, inthebuff said: I fixed the title so it was clearer that it was Bill Barnwell's speculation. It's not a deal nor is it even proposed. It’s not his speculation either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Wasn't that part of the justification though? If we did this deal we'd give yeldon and a 2020 3rd for Gordon and a 2020 5th. If Gordon just plays out the year and signs big somewhere else we would get, potentially, a 2021 3rd round comp pick if his contract is high enough. Yeah, it was. I am not into trying to strategize to gain comp picks.That's too much like grasping at straws, and Beane seems just as inclined to go out and sign a free agent with upside as to wait for a comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I'd like to have one more back but that's because I'm not huge on Yeldon. It would feel better going down the stretch to have a solid 3rd option with Singletary's possible injury and Gore's wear and tear. I wouldn't want to pay big for Gordon though. I think he's kind of a tweener where he's pretty good but not great, but will likely get paid as great. I assume that was BB's thought process on the potential of trade... Getting Gordon would be protection if Gore of Singletary gets hurt late into the year. We have all seen the flashes Singletary has shown but it was on limited touches and does have the hammy which is an injury that can reoccur. I have been pretty pleased with Yeldon as a third down back (other than the fumbling risk) but replacing him with Gordon to split reps with FG/DS would be an upgrade. Defenses would need to recognize MG as a threat to run/catch to keep the looks Allen see's more basic. If it only costs a third (which would be replaced by a 3rd rd comp pick if let go) and a couple of million dollars to keep the threat and help Allen it is a logical mix. I also would think the integration time to get a RB into the lineup would be faster than a WR (learning routes, QB/WR chemistry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, inthebuff said: Should the Bills make the suggested trade? Or should we stand pat with the running back by committee we have? I'd rather stand pat and develop Singletary with Gore as the mentor, rather than trade for Gordon and limit Singletary's touches and progression. No, find some guy off the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, find some guy off the street Where is Marcus Murphy anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Doubtful He’s a pending free agent after this season so there won’t be any holdout Thanks, I stand corrected. Even worse to give up assets for someone many feel wouldn't be a difference maker and then go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, the skycap said: Where is Marcus Murphy anyways? Wikipedia says hes a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think this coaching staff is happy with Singletary. I think their was a plan in place to keep him limited until the Pats game but the hamstring injury kind of set that back. Kid is a baller. They would not of let MCCoy go if they didn’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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