ColoradoBills Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Reader said: Yeah, I imagine that if any other team had made this trade like Arizona we'd be laughing at them. I guess it depends if Scar is a better o-line coach than everyone else. He is one of the best in the business but he only has a week to get Bodine ready for the Steelers. Trying to change his style could be worse than just letting him do what he does. As time goes by he could help Bodine but that ain't going to help Brady to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: Actually they concluded that they couldn't afford to keep him given their other future contracts. And will you he happier to see Morse play well and earn his contract, or not and you be proven right? Mad I said. He HAS to play well for this line to work so here’s hoping he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I am shocked by the fear on this board. I shouldn't be, but I am. We dump a terrible player, who was buried on the depth chart, for assets and now we're doomed? Some of you guys need to settle down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Someone in the media stated that Beane see's next year as "the year". It sure seems like they are putting themselves in position to do something significant around the draft and we still have a healthy amount of money next season to spend. I can buy into that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Reader said: Yeah, I imagine that if any other team had made this trade like Arizona we'd be laughing at them. I guess it depends if Scar is a better o-line coach than everyone else. Yeah, people joke about but of course the pats get the benefit of the doubt. It does seem like NE does get the best out of oline men and they suck the second they leave. 5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I am shocked by the fear on this board. I shouldn't be, but I am. We dump a terrible player, who was buried on the depth chart, for assets and now we're doomed? Some of you guys need to settle down. I didn’t read the thread but I can’t imagine anyone being fearful. I do remember some fans laughing at NE paying Gilmore all that money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) A good deal for both teams. I don't think Bodine is a very good player but he is a semi-competent center. The O-line last year did improve considerably when he was at center. Granted Groy fell off huge and isn't in the league anymore. But Bodine still did provide an upgrade. He has a lot of experience at a position where experience matters. The Pats were desperate for a center and from their perspective which center out on the free agent market was going to be better than Bodine? The Bills got a 6th round pick for a player they were going to cut. Win win for both teams. Edited August 30, 2019 by billsfan89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I do remember some fans laughing at NE paying Gilmore all that money though. We have traded our 4th string center for a 6th rd pick and all of a sudden now Bellichick knows our whole playbook and Bodine will become a pro bowler. Saved you the time. Edited August 30, 2019 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: We have traded our 4th string center for a 6th rd pick and all of a sudden now Bellichick knows our whole playbook and Bodine will become a pro bowler. Saved you the time. Well that’s silly. I mean NE probably isn’t really concerned with us right now anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The guy hit the football lottery. Probably laughing all the way across the 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: the pats get the benefit of the doubt. No they don't. They have been terrible with draft picks for years. On the same day they gave a pick for Russell Bodine, they also traded last year's 2nd round pick Duke Dawson for a 6th. In fact they used a 4th to trade up for Duke Dawson in the 2nd, and 1 year later he's gone for peanuts. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick make that team what it is. Their decisions aren't infallible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: No they don't. They have been terrible with draft picks for years. On the same day they gave a pick for Russell Bodine, they also traded last year's 2nd round pick Duke Dawson for a 6th. In fact they used a 4th to trade up for Duke Dawson in the 2nd, and 1 year later he's gone for peanuts. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick make that team what it is. Their decisions aren't infallible. Of course not. But if we won 6 SBs, we’d be in the same position. They do have the best o line coach in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well that’s silly. I mean NE probably isn’t really concerned with us right now anyways. Not to mention Bellycheat is famous for signing a player off a team's practice squad just before they play the team and harvesting the playbook. I wonder how Tom Brady will like making throws with Bodine in his damn lap though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: How did we get any value for Russell Bodine? I assume Belichick does this to try to gain intel on the playbook of a division opponent. He’ll be cut just after the Dark Master gets his information. All for a 6th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, stevestojan said: I assume Belichick does this to try to gain intel on the playbook of a division opponent. He’ll be cut just after the Dark Master gets his information. All for a 6th round pick. We are cutting dozens of guys any of which could be signed by the Pats for the same purpose. At least we made them pay something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: We have traded our 4th string center for a 6th rd pick and all of a sudden now Bellichick knows our whole playbook and Bodine will become a pro bowler. Saved you the time. Ha! Like they don’t already have everyone’s playbooks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Kudos to Beane for turning our deep interior OL depth into some picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not to mention Bellycheat is famous for signing a player off a team's practice squad just before they play the team and harvesting the playbook. I wonder how Tom Brady will like making throws with Bodine in his damn lap though Bodine will probably back up. Karras has been the backup there for 3 years and started a couple games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: That is a tremendous trade. It not only gives us a 6th but makes the Patriots worse! Unless Ernie Adams and Bellicheat can put their sorcery to work on him. I don't think you can do that to everyone. Never underestimate DS. I think Bodine sucks but I wouldn’t be surprised.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Never underestimate DS. I think Bodine sucks but I wouldn’t be surprised.... It's tricky. The Pats sign Gilmore and he becomes an all-pro. The Pats sign Hogan, Gilislee, and Chandler and none of them play better there than they did here. I feel like I won't be surprised if Bodine plays better, "plays better" as in the Pats just throw when he is in there to mask his deficiencies, or if he is as mediocre there as he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Amazing to think that Mills, Ducasse, Bodine and Teller played important roles last season. Just shocking. Well, Beane is a god or a wizard or some other entity...at least I read that on TSW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: Patriots are scared of the Bills and want intel I wonder how russell feels about waterboarding ? and then being left out back by the dumpster. jk he might be a better fit for for them lol Beane is impressive . of that ? Have no doubt 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: As terrible as he is, there just aren't many good centers out there. I think it's become a much more important position over the years with the development of elite interior pass rushers and crazy exotic defenses that college centers just don't see very often. and why Bills have 3 who rotated in. Centers are the heart and soul, and make the Offense go clickety clack down the track 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well that’s silly. I mean NE probably isn’t really concerned with us right now anyways. They probably should be GRRR ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Initial reaction was..great, now they'll bleed him for info but the more I think about it, watch him turn into a stud pro bowl C to replace Andrews, who has an Illness? It's the Cheatriot way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Initial reaction was..great, now they'll bleed him for info but the more I think about it, watch him turn into a stud pro bowl C to replace Andrews, who has an Illness? It's the Cheatriot way He might be depth. there is no possible way he can become much more than he already is. a center who needs help from his guards in PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well that’s silly. I mean NE probably isn’t really concerned with us right now anyways. Nor will Bodine be there when Daboll constructs a specific game plan to play NE*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It's a 6th round pick. ? Vs nothing....flame away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, stuvian said: we're stockpiling for Clowney We’re gonna give the Texans like 3 sixth rounders and 4 fifths? Now that would be sorcery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Shows the good job Beane has done on the OL. Two playoff caliber teams trading picks for players that wouldn't make the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I hoping to see Bodine starting on week 4 in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: We’re gonna give the Texans like 3 sixth rounders and 4 fifths? Now that would be sorcery! I think O'Brien is arrogant and stupid enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Shows the good job Beane has done on the OL. Two playoff caliber teams trading picks for players that wouldn't make the Bills. OL is such a thin position around the league. Bills were smart to stockpile at the position in the offseason and sell off anyone who didn’t make the cut Edited August 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I like most of Beane's moves but I don't like dealing with the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I like most of Beane's moves but I don't like dealing with the Pats. It’s actually the first trade between the two teams since Bledsoe in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: He might be depth. there is no possible way he can become much more than he already is. a center who needs help from his guards in PP. If Bodine improves with the Pats, I'll be shocked. Against legit NFL talent, Bodine struggles in anchoring his block and maintaining his block. He lacks the strength and foot quickness to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s actually the first trade between the two teams since Bledsoe in 2002. I hope this one isn't as tragic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rico said: I hope this one isn't as tragic. Outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I actually thought Bodine played pretty well in Eric Woods absence before the injury. It was good to get the draft pick from them but I'm never a fan of giving the Pats anyone serviceable and Bodine is a decent player when healthy imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s actually the first trade between the two teams since Bledsoe in 2002. I know, let's hope it's another 17 years before we trade with them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Nester said: I like the trade (load up on those picks) HOWEVER, watch him have a pro bowl year under Billy B.... Dante Scarnecchia might make us sorry. Is there a better OL coach out there? But I’ll certainly take this deal. To get anything for him is pretty amazing. I’m watching 3rd quarter replay form last night. Beane interview is worth the watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 If Andy Reid wants to trade up for a QB, I'll pass. If Belichick wants ANYONE, I'm hanging up the phone. Either way, I think it's quite likely both Teller and Bodine would have been cut, but the Pats may very well have not been able to get Bodine. It IS cool to get some comp for players likely to be cut. Meh. Not a big deal. Bodine may be a little better than he's given credit for here, but he's still JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 If one were to think back and consider the circumstances surrounding our OL that lead to the hailmary signing of Russ Bodine, you should be absolutely giddy over the news he's heading to NE 1 wk before the start of the regular season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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