Buffalo716 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Why are people shocked that bodine has some value? He started like 45 straight for the Bengals and line play around the league is piss poor He is still easily one of the best 40-45 centers in the world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Beans certainly has improved the O-line talent. But you bring up the point that he likely could have covered the C position without taking the risk on Morse. So I agree with you there. KC made their last year's starting Center expendable too. Who's their C? Who cares? I am not a fan of KC. I know that answer sounds simple....but that is my view of it...I worry about OUR teams players. We needed a OL in front of our investment of Josh Allen....Beane did that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Nope. Don’t like it. He’ll start pancaking Oliver before you know it. Never support the evil empire! Unless....he’s a special secret undercover double agent who’s going to take a fall when playing us and give us free shots at Marsha..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, transient said: So Beane got assets for Bodine AND manages to make a division rival worse in the process?!?! I'm starting to buy into this Beane is a sorcerer business! Lol, was just thinking we get a draft pick and get to face him twice a year. Double win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Keep payin' Beane, Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, K-9 said: Im not sure what side of the commentary I’m on here. Is it a sadder commentary about last year’s OL that two of the starters were gonna be cut or is it a happier commentary on the quality of players Beane brought in to replace them? I choose to believe the latter. It's a mix of both imo. Spain, Feliciano and Long all have flexibility on the interior but none of them are world beaters. Bodine's bad and Teller doesn't have position flexibility so they were expendable. We improved our line in the offseason and were then able to get a few extra picks as well so I'm a very happy camper right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 My boss who's a Patriots season ticket holder texts me to ask about Bodine. I said pray he never has to play. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A sixth rounder for a guy we would have cut and even better, a chance to have him blocking for Brady against us. This is a brilliant move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They would need him to be great in all 16 games, because this isn't close to the Offense he was snapping to in KC. The Chiefs concluded he wasn't a significant enough piece of their insanely successful Offense to keep. Actually they concluded that they couldn't afford to keep him given their other future contracts. And will you he happier to see Morse play well and earn his contract, or not and you be proven right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, uticaclub said: Giving Belichick information about our offense isn't worth a 6th rounder. Helping a division rival, especially the Patriots isn't worth a 6th rounder. Making them overpay after we cut him and use more cap space is more valuable than a 6th rounder. Some people are way too into conspiracy theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffswagger017 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 That is wild, can't believe he got something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Because he could choose where he wants to go. Yeeesh.. Right, but he would choose the Pats most likely. Already knows the offense + Tom Brady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'd be ripping on the GOAT HC? Yep. Def. No, I said you’d be ripping on Beane. But the larger point is, you’d be praising Belichick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 If you count Eli Harold, Beane traded him, Bodine, Teller, none of which were making the team, plus a 7th, into Ryan Bates, two 6ths and a 5th. Pretty damn decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Some people are way too into conspiracy theories It's not a conspiracy, it's basic strategy. Would you rather give your neighbor that you hate, something you were going to throw out for a lottery ticket or make him dig through your trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavUHerdThaHoard Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Espn ...Rotoworld they all can say anything they want a bunch a blowhards that never saw this guy struggle like he was holding a red cape(o'lay ~ to the bull) not wearing one for all of them 74 games ....lol ...He wont even be starting in N.E.....Karras will be the 1st string center ....so let them throw crap against wall and see if it sticks in N.E ...it still smells just the same.Take the 6th everyday ending in "Y" & twice on Sunday ....about how many sacks n hurries he will allow per game right up the gut if he forced into lineup there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, VW82 said: I can't believe we did this. If we cut Bodine and he signs with the Pats then so be it. 6th round pick is not worth the kind of intel he'll give our biggest rival. The last guy I want on that team is the center who's been helping groom our young QB. Very ballsy move by Beane. I agree with this post. Bodine knows the playbook, inside and out I'll assume. Some one tell me why this is worth a 6th round pick to the Patriots when they get the Bills whole playbook, tendencies, etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Andrews to Bodine is a huge drop off. That’s the biggest win here for the Bills. The pick is just icing. 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: I agree with this post. Bodine knows the playbook, inside and out I'll assume. Some one tell me why this is worth a 6th round pick to the Patriots when they get the Bills whole playbook, tendencies, etc.. Not going to help Bodine when he’s facing the Bills defense. I’m pretty sure the Pats don’t need to know the playbook in order to stop the Bills offense. They’ve successfully done it without the playbook for 20 years. Edited August 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeF said: Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Star and Jordan Phillips just got woodies.... There has to be some truth to this (anatomical references aside). I mean, I've never played the game, but that has to get into your head, right? If you're Bodine, and you've been getting creamed for 5 weeks in training camp against these guys (particularly Oliver), that's going to stick in your head come game day. "I got this. I got this. He's not that good. I got this..." WHAM. "Yep, I remember that. I remember that. Jesus. I couldn't stop that two months ago..." And that's in the first quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: I agree with this post. Bodine knows the playbook, inside and out I'll assume. Some one tell me why this is worth a 6th round pick to the Patriots when they get the Bills whole playbook, tendencies, etc.. I doubt Bodine provides one drop of intel that Belichick isn’t already well aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Andrews to Bodine is a huge drop off. That’s the biggest win here for the Bills. The pick is just icing. Not going to help Bodine when he’s facing the Bills defense. But it will help the Pat's defense when their facing the Bill's offense 1 minute ago, K-9 said: I doubt Bodine provides one drop of intel that Belichick isn’t already well aware of. We give Belicheat too much credit sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: But it will help the Pat's defense when their facing the Bill's offense It won’t matter. They don’t need any help. Please rewatch the Pats games vs the Bills offense last year. It was a complete mismatch.the Bills needed better talent, they appear to have upgraded, but that is what is going to beat them. That Pats D already has their #. Daboll runs the same offense they do. Edited August 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It won’t matter. They don’t need any help. Please rewatch the Pats games vs the Bills offense last year. It was a complete mismatch.the Bills needed better talent, they appear to have upgraded, but that is what is going to beat them. That Pats D already has their #. Daboll runs the same offense they do. Yep. Talent trumps scheme. Every. Single. Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Whites Bay said: There has to be some truth to this (anatomical references aside). I mean, I've never played the game, but that has to get into your head, right? If you're Bodine, and you've been getting creamed for 5 weeks in training camp against these guys (particularly Oliver), that's going to stick in your head come game day. "I got this. I got this. He's not that good. I got this..." WHAM. "Yep, I remember that. I remember that. Jesus. I couldn't stop that two months ago..." And that's in the first quarter. Bodine is southern for "Caught in an endless backpedal" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: But it will help the Pat's defense when their facing the Bill's offense We give Belicheat too much credit sometimes. Nah, he’s a defensive genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 As terrible as he is, there just aren't many good centers out there. I think it's become a much more important position over the years with the development of elite interior pass rushers and crazy exotic defenses that college centers just don't see very often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Why are people shocked that bodine has some value? He started like 45 straight for the Bengals and line play around the league is piss poor He is still easily one of the best 40-45 centers in the world Shhh. Common sense doesn't work here. Beane did a great job of signing versatile linemen which made Bodine expendable even knowing Morse injury history 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Im not sure what side of the commentary I’m on here. Is it a sadder commentary about last year’s OL that two of the starters were gonna be cut or is it a happier commentary on the quality of players Beane brought in to replace them? I choose to believe the latter. Both of those guys shipped out that were presumed cuts were also Beane picks/signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Both of those guys shipped out that were presumed cuts were also Beane picks/signings No kidding. Glad he didn’t let that stand in the way of making necessary upgrades. And it isn’t like his “misses” are out the league, either. One garnered interest from multiple teams and the other is now playing for the SB champs. Beane isn’t afraid to move on from his previous signings. That’s a good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, K-9 said: No kidding. Glad he didn’t let that stand in the way of making necessary upgrades. And it isn’t like his “misses” are out the league, either. One garnered interest from multiple teams and the other is now playing for the SB champs. Beane isn’t afraid to move on from his previous signings. That’s a good thing. I agree. The overall talent of the OL on paper looks so much better than last year. Id just hold off on the genius label until we actually see better results on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 We got a 6th round pick and made the Patriots worse at the same time... F-ing Sorcery I fell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It won’t matter. They don’t need any help. Please rewatch the Pats games vs the Bills offense last year. It was a complete mismatch.the Bills needed better talent, they appear to have upgraded, but that is what is going to beat them. That Pats D already has their #. Daboll runs the same offense they do. Touche!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I agree. The overall talent of the OL on paper looks so much better than last year. Id just hold off on the genius label until we actually see better results on the field. I don’t recall labeling Beane a genius. There’s a difference between that and not labeling him a dumb ass like his detractors enjoy doing around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Nah, he’s a defensive genius. He's such a genius he need to videotape the red zone offense of his Superbowl opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The problem is that if he plays for the Cheaters, he'll be allowed to hold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: The problem is that if he plays for the Cheaters, he'll be allowed to hold. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 More proof Beane is a Wizard ?♂️....... getting anything for Bodine is incredible. Hope he starts in NE and Oliver destroys him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Don’t they have the best oline coach in the nfl? Like by all accounts, he is the best position coach in the nfl. I freely admit I don’t watch o linemen so I have no idea how good he is. If you o line guys think he was going to get cut, better to get something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Don’t they have the best oline coach in the nfl? Like by all accounts, he is the best position coach in the nfl. I freely admit I don’t watch o linemen so I have no idea how good he is. If you o line guys think he was going to get cut, better to get something for him. Yeah, I imagine that if any other team had made this trade like Arizona we'd be laughing at them. I guess it depends if Scar is a better o-line coach than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Cash said: Like I said in the Teller thread, it's very encouraging that we have players who aren't good enough to make the 53-man roster, but are good enough to have trade value. Not to mention to have trade value to the NFL's most dominant team for two decades running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 we're stockpiling for Clowney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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