Bills host OG Quinton Spain from Titans***Update...SIGNED***

[thebandit27]

So, @YoloinOhio, do you now believe that Beane will come up with 3 starting OLmen in free agency?

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

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Edited April 3, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[PIZ]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I immediately think of Darron Lee and Kiko Alonso in our own division 

 

Heck, even our huge QB pushes them around like rag dolls.

 

[The Bills Blog]

20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

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Holy balls. Low-class move.

[YoloinOhio]

25 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

So, @YoloinOhio, do you now believe that Beane will come up with 3 starting OLmen in free agency?

 

Oh boy I forgot about that. I’m very happy to report that my expectations were greatly exceeded

[peterpan]

We've signed 6 FA lineman.  I love it. 

 

But how many active OL have this tegime carried on game day? I'm thinking teams only carry 7, typically.  

 

When you figure Dawkins will be active, there ain't much room for anyone else, including high draft picks

[badassgixxer05]

Yesssss!!!! Another fat boy for Shady.. ?

[thebandit27]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Oh boy I forgot about that. I’m very happy to report that my expectations were greatly exceeded

 

As am I!  I had a feeling that they'd come away with 3.  It was a great year to do so with the volume that was in the market.

 

Looking ahead to next offseason, when the team will be in a similar position cap-wise, they could do the same thing at pass rusher and WR.

 

For pass rushers, guys that are slated to be UFAs include Lawrence, Clowney, Frank Clark, Dante Fowler, Mario Addison, Whitney Mercilus, Leonard Williams, Bud Dupree, Yannick Ngakoue, and others.

 

At WR, you've got Amari Cooper, Sterling Shepard, Tyler Boyd, Tyreek Hill, Robby Anderson, Michael Thomas, and AJ Green currently slated to hit the market.

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, peterpan said:

We've signed 6 FA lineman.  I love it. 

 

But how many active OL have this tegime carried on game day? I'm thinking teams only carry 7, typically.  

 

When you figure Dawkins will be active, there ain't much room for anyone else, including high draft picks

 

8 or 9 make the 53 and 7 or 8 usually dress.  IF you can get down to 7 it usually means a Swing Tackle and a combination C/G.

If Long wins the starting RG job he could slide to C if needed for the remainder of the game and a pure G backup takes his spot.

 

This is one reason Bodine might not make the cut.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

Its pretty cool that Beane is putting this much work into the OL in free agency, but I would be surprised if this pans out how most fans hope.  These guys are all fine individually, but its a huge question mark how they will play together.  Lineman, as well as most free agents in the league, have trouble adjusting to systems.  We are asking an entire group of guys to do just that.  I am about as nervous for this as I would be if our line from last year was returning. 

[ColoradoBills]

Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Its pretty cool that Beane is putting this much work into the OL in free agency, but I would be surprised if this pans out how most fans hope.  These guys are all fine individually, but its a huge question mark how they will play together.  Lineman, as well as most free agents in the league, have trouble adjusting to systems.  We are asking an entire group of guys to do just that.  I am about as nervous for this as I would be if our line from last year was returning. 

 

Not me at all.  The talent is way up from last year.  It is likely that 4 of the 5 starters on the OL will have all off season to work together.

Morse, Dawkins, Spain and Nsekhe.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Not me at all.  The talent is way up from last year.  It is likely that 4 of the 5 starters on the OL will have all off season to work together.

Morse, Dawkins, Spain and Nsekhe.

 

Continuity matters, sometimes more than talent.  And one off-season doesn't get you the kind of continuity that matters, especially with the collective bargaining limitations.  And don't get me wrong, Beane had to do something, and this was probably the best option.  I'm just nervous. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea me too. Start of April makes sense. But they'd have to bump FA up too to the start of March. I think about a month between the two is about right.

 

 

It will never get any sooner simply because of the existence of NFL Network.

 

If it were just about keeping the NFL "in the news" in the offseason I think the football benefits of getting players settled into their new teams/homes would allow for an early April draft.

 

But draft programming literally provides must-see programming for fans of NFLN for better than 1/3 of the year........3 months of lead-up plus a couple weeks of post-draft-evaluations..........that's worth a fortune to the league.

[BillsFan4]

Love this signing! 

 

He was a force on the field when the Titans were running Moreno of a power run game (or “exotic smash mouth” to use MM’s words) under Mularkey. 

 

I think we could see a big season from Spain in Brian Daboll’s offense. 

[Beast]

39 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

Holy balls. Low-class move.

 

I think it’s funny.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Very nice! I feel a whole lot better with the O-line this year.

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Continuity matters, sometimes more than talent.  And one off-season doesn't get you the kind of continuity that matters, especially with the collective bargaining limitations.  And don't get me wrong, Beane had to do something, and this was probably the best option.  I'm just nervous. 

 

I hear what you are saying but really think about it.  You are not going to keep Gore/Bodine Vlad and Miller (all who are not very talented)

because of continuity.  Get talent and find out who plays together well.  The OL will be much improved but like I said not complete.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

He signed a two year deal.  To play longer than that, Beane will need to decide that a 35 year old (turns 36 in the middle of the 2021 season) player is worth extending, probably for more money.

He’s old but he doesn’t have a lot of mileage. He’s certainly not here for a while but he’s a really good player. It isn’t crazy to think that he is the RT for 3 years.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 hour ago, The Bills Blog said:

Didn't we lose to them in the Final Four?

 

I thought I read we won.

[Paul Costa]

I guess Spain is going to bring his big city attitude to little old Buffalo??can’t believe he chose McDermott and the Bills over the LA Rams and Mcvey ???

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

That’s great

[Pokebball]

Chemistry among offensive linemen is very important.  I don't know enough about these guys.  I think Allen plays a large part in building the chemistry.  I trust it will come and comes quickly.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Chemistry among offensive linemen is very important.  I don't know enough about these guys.  I think Allen plays a large part in building the chemistry.  I trust it will come and comes quickly.

I often wonder how true that is. Lots of cliches like "need time to gel". It makes sense but I really do wonder how critical it is. I think the center and QB making the correct line adjustments is the most important issue after sheer talent, followed by simply staying healthy. If they communicate well and Daboll doesn't make the assignments too difficult to understand they will be fine. All the projected starters have lots of game experience.

[njbuff]

I think Josh Allen would be lost back there if he finally got good protection.

 

?

[eball]

9 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I think Josh Allen would be lost back there if he finally got good protection.

 

 

I think he'd like to find out.

[BillsFan1988]

4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Hope you are correct. He has been a marginal swing tackle most of his career and is 33. Mills was mostly below average, decent in run game, and putrid at time in pass protection. Just not convinced Nsekhe is much better. Still want to see OT drafted on day 2

Marginal is not the correct word to describe Nsekhe.  Nsekhe has been the best swing tackle in the NFL for at least 2yrs. 

[DrDawkinstein]

47 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I often wonder how true that is. Lots of cliches like "need time to gel". It makes sense but I really do wonder how critical it is. I think the center and QB making the correct line adjustments is the most important issue after sheer talent, followed by simply staying healthy. If they communicate well and Daboll doesn't make the assignments too difficult to understand they will be fine. All the projected starters have lots of game experience.

 

You can have good OL without "time to gel", but it certainly only helps. You have it right that QB and Center making the proper call is the first priority. But having a team who knows each others moves without having to even look is always a good thing whether youre talking NFL OL or even in the business world.

[Yav]

Are the Bills just signing up all the OL available in FA? 

Its great to see all the additions and they aren't going to tie up salary for years to come with these 1 year contracts. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Great signing. Smart as well. 

 

Now can we finally stop talking about moving Dawkins to LG? This is your starting left guard. 

 

Dawkins-Spain-Morse-??????-Nsekhe

 

RG will be a huge battle between Teller, Feliciano, Long, Boettger, possible draft pick I think Long wins. 

 

I pencil Nsekhe in at RT, but I think they try to upgrade that spot in the draft. Maybe a guy like McGary. 

 

 

Jeepers Eps, I do love this signing, but as crazy as this sounds I am looking forward to also seeing what Teller and Boettger have developed into this year.

 

Is this the greatest line in the NFL?  No.

 

However, is this one of the very deepest?  Man, I don't know how anyone can say it isn't.

[Mark Long Beach]

Happy Day!

 

It feels like we now can find a competent line out of what we've brought in and what little we had left over from last year.  We might even have a GOOD OL!  How delightful!   

 

Now to draft an OT day 2+ and see if he'll develop.

[formerlyofCtown]

Maybe he was disgusted when he saw the Titans fanbase were cheaters.

Edited April 3, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[Chandler#81]

4 hours ago, Rhode Island Red said:

To me this signing adds a little fuel to the “trade up for a (defensive) stud” fire....

 

Love your Jack Kemp/Wray Carlton avatar! 

Me, I’m thinking this may lead us to shock everyone -League and team fan base- and select TJ Hockenson at 9. The clear favorite as best TE in recent years, and a position the Bills have had complete disregard for over 50 years. 9 is early for a TE, but I doubt he’ll be on the board much longer. Beane has shown repeatly he can find veteran gems on the scrap heap, so a pass rushing DT could still be available at a 1-2 year deal. 

 

I havent commented at all on any of the TJ threads, as I just didn’t see the Bills I know doing that. But my mind is changing! A def Day 1 starter who gives Allen another fine target while helping the blocking cause. 

 

Anyway, love the Spain signing -and the parameters, as we can tag him next year worst case, if he Balls out!

[NoHuddleKelly12]

16 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Jeepers Eps, I do love this signing, but as crazy as this sounds I am looking forward to also seeing what Teller and Boettger have developed into this year.

 

Is this the greatest line in the NFL?  No.

 

However, is this one of the very deepest?  Man, I don't know how anyone can say it isn't.

Donuts, what a difference one offseason makes. It could be argued, with an entirely straight face, that at least on paper, OL has gone from a glaring team weakness, to one of solid strength good enough to boost a playoff push. Man, what I'd give to be right on that once the games start! 

[PromoTheRobot]

17 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Donuts, what a difference one offseason makes. It could be argued, with an entirely straight face, that at least on paper, OL has gone from a glaring team weakness, to one of solid strength good enough to boost a playoff push. Man, what I'd give to be right on that once the games start! 

 

They are certainly playing the odds, right? Figure a few will come up aces.

19 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Love your Jack Kemp/Wray Carlton avatar! 

Me, I’m thinking this may lead us to shock everyone -League and team fan base- and select TJ Hockenson at 9. The clear favorite as best TE in recent years, and a position the Bills have had complete disregard for over 50 years. 9 is early for a TE, but I doubt he’ll be on the board much longer. Beane has shown repeatly he can find veteran gems on the scrap heap, so a pass rushing DT could still be available at a 1-2 year deal. 

 

I havent commented at all on any of the TJ threads, as I just didn’t see the Bills I know doing that. But my mind is changing! A def Day 1 starter who gives Allen another fine target while helping the blocking cause. 

 

Anyway, love the Spain signing -and the parameters, as we can tag him next year worst case, if he Balls out!

 

A trade down AND getting Hock would make me as happy as a little girl.

Edited April 3, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[TigerJ]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I often wonder how true that is. Lots of cliches like "need time to gel". It makes sense but I really do wonder how critical it is. I think the center and QB making the correct line adjustments is the most important issue after sheer talent, followed by simply staying healthy. If they communicate well and Daboll doesn't make the assignments too difficult to understand they will be fine. All the projected starters have lots of game experience.

I do think chemistry is pretty important for the offensive line, Particularly when it comes to handling stunts and blitzes by the defense.  Time has to be be developed for switching off as the situation calls for it.

[Doc Brown]

After last year it's good that the biggest concern after free agency is the line needing time to gel.

[dollars 2 donuts]

27 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Donuts, what a difference one offseason makes. It could be argued, with an entirely straight face, that at least on paper, OL has gone from a glaring team weakness, to one of solid strength good enough to boost a playoff push. Man, what I'd give to be right on that once the games start! 

 

 

HERE'S TO STRAIGHT FACES ON PAPER!  Wait, what?

 

I don't know.  I am just drunk with joy.  I hope and believe you will be right on this one.

 

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

The only thing I wish with this signing, was that it was for longer. That said, I also understand the Bills' perspective and his: both want a trial period to see how it goes and if it works out well, I think they both know they'll be paying a higher premium. 

 

But we have him under contract.....that allows us to play him while working out that extension!

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

After last year it's good that the biggest concern after free agency is the line needing time to gel.

 

TC doesn't offer the same time like in the old days.

 

I hope this doesn't mean that this team will get off to a painful start because the line hasn't gelled.

[gonzo1105]

4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I get the feeling Teller is destined for the PS. He wasnt any better than Ducasse or Miller.  Hope Im wrong and he develops nicely. Because he would be a nice cheap backup at a minimum. Feliciano is probably the one most likely to not make the roster of the FA signings unless he can back up at C.

 

Wyatt Teller would have to pass through waivers to get to the practice squad. A guy who was a 5th rounder with multiple starts and only going into year 2 is not going to be bypassed by 31 other teams with the lack of Oline depth in the NFL. Ike Boettger who the Bills tried to pass up onto the PS was snatched by the Chiefs, only to return on the 53 man roster after the Chiefs cut him. 

 

You have 3 options with Teller Keep him on the 53, Cut him, Trade him. I think 1 and 3 are the most likely one