BrotherChazz Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, eball said: There's some good video of when the Skins played the Texans last year and Nsekhe dominated Clowney. He's good. People seem to say he's far better on the left side than the right side. But they say the same thing about Dawkins. So we'll see where they line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's why there's a draft. #10picks I don't think they use all 10 though. Beane is moving around the board. I say six draft picks when all is said and done. And 4 of those in the first 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, R Y G A R said: I'm loving all of the OL signings. Does anyone wonder about the cohesiveness with potentially 5 guys that never played along side each other before? How long will it take the new OL to gel? OTOH it has to be better than last years line by default ? I wonder some about that. They need to get the top five figured out quickly so they can use some of training camp to develop the necessary cohesiveness and chemistry. The question is, how do you do that quickly with so many new guys? We can safely assume Mitch Morse is starting at center and Spain at guard. Dawkins and Nsekhe are the probably winners at tackle at this point (I think). The other guard spot is the question. Teller, Feliciano and Long may all be in the competition. McDermott may prefer to have Long as an interior backup. He can play guard or center, despite his injury related struggles with the Jets. Feliciano can too, but I think he's more familiar with guard. Feliciano is a pure mauler. He's not a great athlete or technician but gets the job done. I would guess Teller has more long term upside, but Feliciano might be a little better right now. That's all speculation though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 This is starting to feel kind of like what Minnesota did a couple years ago with their line. Completely transformed through the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Love this signing. With the draft I would be looking for Tackles mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, purple haze said: I don't think they use all 10 though. Beane is moving around the board. I say six draft picks when all is said and done. And 4 of those in the first 3 rounds. I think you are very right. I can see them moving up or down in the first round and packaging a bunch of trades to get as many picks in the first 4 rounds as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I get the feeling Teller is destined for the PS. He wasnt any better than Ducasse or Miller. Hope Im wrong and he develops nicely. Because he would be a nice cheap backup at a minimum. Feliciano is probably the one most likely to not make the roster of the FA signings unless he can back up at C. I disagree, if only because McDermott and Beane specifically mentioned him at the end of last season as a guy they feel was starting to "come on" as the year progressed. They lumped him in with Levi Wallace and Robert Foster as guys who they were glad to have gotten meaningful reps and who they wanted a longer look at. I'll say one thing, though: if Teller is to win the job, he'll darn sure have to earn it. The offensive guard battle might be the fiercest in camp. Cue McDermott: "Iron sharpens iron". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: This is going to kill their comp pick formula! What are these guys thinking! Glass half full: We are going to be positioned to get some low level picks when all these guys leave after a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: Glass half full: We are going to be positioned to get some low level picks when all these guys leave after a year. They will also have 100 mill+ In cap space next year to re-sign who they want out of all of these 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They will also have 100 mill+ In cap space next year to re-sign who they want out of all of these I agree, but find it highly unlikely all of these signings will be on our roster after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 We just took our OL from good to great with this signing, he is not just a good pass blocker but a dominant one. He did get benched a few games for his run blocking so we can't discount that but he makes our OL so much better, he was a guy I was keeping an eye on since last season, great signing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Beane signed so many guys on 1 year deals or team options, next year there may be enough other signings for Comp Pick gymnastics which didn’t seem possible before this haul of FAs That is an interesting strategic take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Only one year deal... ensures he will be motivated.. I’ll guess around $5-6 Mil We will see but might be a tad high. Played in TN on a 1 yr deal last year at $1.907mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 this signing is huge... we just built Josh Allen an entire new o-line, and gave him 2 new WR's, and a new TE... best part? THE DRAFT HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET! this is the greatest off season in recent memory! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, purple haze said: I don't think they use all 10 though. Beane is moving around the board. I say six draft picks when all is said and done. And 4 of those in the first 3 rounds. I'm down for that. It does seem like they'll use some of those extra picks as ammo to move around given how many FA's they've signed. Only a few more weeks until we find out. I hope more coaches/GMs speak up like Harbaugh did about doing the draft sooner because this long-arse wait sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: I'm down for that. It does seem like they'll use some of those extra picks as ammo to move around given how many FA's they've signed. Only a few more weeks until we find out. I hope more coaches/GMs speak up like Harbaugh did about doing the draft sooner because this long-arse wait sucks. Remember that year they did it in May? That properly sucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: I agree, but find it highly unlikely all of these signings will be on our roster after next year. Not all. It’s unrealistic they will want to re-sign all, plus some will walk for bigger deals if the Bills can replace in the draft. But it’s not like they won’t be able to target guys they want to re-sign and have the space to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow, is it possible that many make the team? That is a crazy number- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Nice move. The Jets seem to be getting the press as the ascendant team in the AFCE which I think works to the Bills benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Not all. It’s unrealistic they will want to re-sign all, plus some will walk for bigger deals if the Bills can replace in the draft. But it’s not like they won’t be able to target guys they want to re-sign and have the space to do it. Right...I never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Remember that year they did it in May? That properly sucked. Ugh, just the worst. I get that the league has stretched it out like they have in order to keep the game relevant/talked about during the off-season but we don't need 3 months of speculation and scouting reports and yaddah yaddah yah. Teams typically have their boards set by February. They might make a few minor adjustments here and there, based on the Combine and player meetings but for the most part, they're set and ready to roll early in the year. I'd be for it going down in the first weekend of April, bump it up by 3-4 weeks at least. We'll see, I guess. Seems like the league is listening when enough teams speak up on the changes they wanna see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: Ugh, just the worst. I get that the league has stretched it out like they have in order to keep the game relevant/talked about during the off-season but we don't need 3 months of speculation and scouting reports and yaddah yaddah yah. Teams typically have their boards set by February. They might make a few minor adjustments here and there, based on the Combine and player meetings but for the most part, they're set and ready to roll early in the year. I'd be for it going down in the first weekend of April, bump it up by 3-4 weeks at least. We'll see, I guess. Seems like the league is listening when enough teams speak up on the changes they wanna see. Yea me too. Start of April makes sense. But they'd have to bump FA up too to the start of March. I think about a month between the two is about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: I really think the bills can lead the league in rushing next year. Allen can chip in with 800 yards I would much rather not see that many yards on the ground from our QB- 800 yards is a recipe for injury and signifies the offense has broken down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Bill, you will love him. He is an outstanding and nasty run blocker who consistently gets to the second level and seals off lanes for his running back. He has very good short area quickness for those counter plays that Daboll loves to run and he is a finisher. Great size, good solid base in pass pro, he has occasionally got a bit grabby but he has allowed very few sacks in his NFL career. Part of that is he has a fantastic feel for when the pocket is about to move or the Quarterback is about to escape and he is excellent at re-directing rushers to create escape lanes. Go and watch some of Mariota's long runs his first two years.... the man who senses the play is breaking down and his QB needs an escape route is Quinton Spain, again and again and again. He is one of the least heralded and most underrated players in the league. He was absolutely my #1 FA target for this team. I am not just very excited I am absolutely delighted the Bills have managed to get him. Given that it is a one year prove it deal it shouldn't preclude us from looking for interior help in the draft but for me that is now a development high ceiling guy rather than a guy you need to be an instant starter. Nice report! I am going to go watch the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Since they have a starting center and like 6 candidates for 2 guard jobs and only 3 for the 2 tackle jobs(not counting C. McDermott) then that would seem to be the case at this point. But if they draft a highly regarded LT prospect(Tytus Howard?) in the first 3 rounds I could still see them moving Dawkins inside and letting Nsekhe place hold at his best position as the LT. I hope they don't select a RT in the first round though.........that would be drought-Billsy. It would be reasonable to draft a LT to replace the guy who gave up 8 sacks and struggled last year though..........you can have an otherwise solid line but if your LT can't hold up in pass pro that makes it hard on a young QB who is best suited to pushing the ball downfield. I agree and see OBD taking a Tytus Howard at OT on day 2 and maybe Dru Samia at G on Day 3 and have them backup at OT and OG yr 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, Doc said: Teller's got a tough row to hoe with all the FA's they signed. I think all the FA's they signed (including Long) stick. When there are no "free" jobs, everyone of these guys will either bring 110% and perform or be cut. I love it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He hasn’t been marginal though. He has been a borderline dominant player but played behind 2 early picks (one of whom is an All-Pro). Nsekhe is our best OT now. He’s just old. He’s probably a 2-3 year solution. He signed a two year deal. To play longer than that, Beane will need to decide that a 35 year old (turns 36 in the middle of the 2021 season) player is worth extending, probably for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Ok then.lets hear our projected starting 5. Their positions and why...go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: he's a big boy. pushing his way around. good signing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 The magic beane does it again. Holy ***** do we have depth. 4 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Ok then.lets hear our projected starting 5. Their positions and why...go Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Long/Feliciano-Nsekhe because that is the best combination of proven talent we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Ok then.lets hear our projected starting 5. Their positions and why...go Until the draft this is my guess: Dawkins Spain Morse Teller Nsheke Morse is the easy one. Giving LG to Spain based on his experience there, flipping Teller to RG as I think he has a chance to earn a starting spot if he improved over the off-season. Dawkins at LT and Nsekhe on the right until a better option is added to the roster. Spencer Long as the primary interior backup, both center and guard. Jon Feliciano as a backup guard. La'Adrian Waddle as the swing tackle. Keep one more somewhere if you feel it absolutely necessary, but I'd prefer they keep 8 instead of 10 like last season. Edited April 3, 2019 by JM57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Ok then.lets hear our projected starting 5. Their positions and why...go Lots of time for things to change, but I'd say Morse is locked in at Centre, and Spain is very likely the Left Guard. I'll go with Dawkins staying at LT (keep the younger guy who's likely a long term piece happy) and Nsekhe to RT. RG is anybody's guess, but since you're asking I'm going with Teller to win the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quincy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 LT Dawkins LG Spain OC Morse RG Long RT ? Nsekhe looks to be ready to start now Left Tackle but because of his age he might only retain the swing tackle role he had in Washington, especially if Jawaan Taylor or Cody Ford are drafted in round 1. If the goal is to draft the biggest, meanest line then I think it should be Nsekhe-Spain-Morse-Feliciano-Ford and no Dawkins. I wonder if there will be a genuine camp battle for LT? From the film I have seen Nsekhe looked very impressive and Dawkins may not want to play Right Tackle and Buffalo already has plenty of Guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Wow I Love this signing!! Basically a lock to be starting LG come week 1 , HUGE improvement over last year, especially with another huge upgrade in Morse next to him at C. Dawkins will also benefit significantly from this signing . 18- Dawkins/Vlad(Teller)/Bodine/Miller/Mills 19- Dawkins/Spain/Morse/?/Ty Morse alone is going to make everyone around him better. Pre draft this is a massive improvement over last years line . They're really putting Allen in a great position to make a huge leap in year 2 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Man, the Bills have taken the Titans to the woodshed three times this week: 1) Bills - Best fans, 2) Josh Allen - best play, and 3) now Spain. lol Didn't we lose to them in the Final Four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Didn't we lose to them in the Final Four? Yeah, they purchased another forward lateral. 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Solid move by the Bills. This OL is shaping up rather well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Didn't we lose to them in the Final Four? They cheated (again) Some fool paid $660 for 20,000 votes to get the win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Good to hear. I don’t know who the starting 5 will be, but it looks like there will be solid depth across the line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: They cheated (again) Some fool paid $660 for 20,000 votes to get the win Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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