Protocal69 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) https://www.foxsports.com/watch/first-things-first/video/1302615107882 I dont see what Cris Carter is talking about. He is talking about Josh Allen like he is Byron Leftwich or something. I always considered Josh Allen as having a quick release.. Edited August 21, 2018 by Protocal69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Protocal69 said: https://www.foxsports.com/watch/first-things-first/video/1302615107882 I dont see what Cris Carter is talking about. He is talking Josh Allen like he is Byron Leftwich or something. I always considered Josh Allen as having a quick release.. The simple explanation is that Cris Carter is an imbecile. 10 11 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 You don't know what Cris Carter is talking about because Cris Carter doesn't know what he's talking about. 6 15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I didn't see the segment but I assume it's Cris Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: You don't know what Cris Carter is talking about because Cris Carter doesn't know what he's talking about. Sounds like you give a darn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Sounds like you give a darn. yeah, says you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 You know what's funny? CC got paid for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Fall guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I don’t know what Carter said, but I disagree anyways 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Yes, Allen’s problem is his arm strength ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000927196/Soul-Science-How-fast-can-Josh-Allen-throw hmm... interesting. That’s the first time I’ve heard that about Allen. Soul & science measured his release at 38 hundredths of a second, which they said is on par with Tom Brady and IIRC also one of the faster release times measured. Later in the video they also measure his throwing motion on the run. They said 2/3rds if his throwing motion (on the run) took only 25 hundredths of a second. Edited August 21, 2018 by BillsFan4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I also thought that was a stupid comment. No one else has said that about JA. I thought Darold was the one with the long windup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 The thing is that all of these a-holes are going to want to be right. Not matter how much Mason Rudolph sucks, Chris Trappaso will try to cling to some small thing. People who thought Allen was going to be awful are now nitpicking little stupid things because he has looked really good. These people have to be right. Carter doesn't like Allen so he is grasping for straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Chris is mad cause Josh doesn’t have a fall guy yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Cris Carter is the Jarvis Landry of analysts. Hate hate hate. Dude is so clueless. I used to tune him out every time he would talk, now I listen every time, ears wide open. It’s usually pretty funny. Just like this video. Idiot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) I respcted Cris Carter until he started talking smack on everyone on his silly tv show bashing athletes. Shame on you CC you sell out. Edited August 21, 2018 by wppete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Good lord. I feel dumber for watching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlBillsFan Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Mangini looking at him like 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just don’t watch morning sports talk shows. They’re just for a lack of better word, ****. I get more entertainment value out of this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Anything to make news. Anything. Carter is a buffoon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Cool - get it in front of Josh. Bet it’s fixed tomorrow Edited August 21, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I want his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Watch "2018 Draft Top QB's Skills Tested & Broken Down with Soul & Science | NFL" on YouTube https://www.google.com/amp/s/trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/football/john-brenkus-of-espn-s-sport-science-analyzes-josh-allen/article_dfd31bdd-f0d7-5a2f-8811-4f3a22c661c1.amp.html Carter is so far off base with this evaluation. Not even being a homer, just completely flabbergasted at how wrong Carter is/was in his assertions about Allen. If anything his arm strength and release will bail him out of being a little late because how fast and quick the kid can rip it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Someone had to have switched Cris Carter's Josh Allen game film with a rerun of Home Improvement with Tim Allen playing catch resulting in an "I'm Ron Burgundy???" moment. Dude. Is. A. Brick. Edited August 21, 2018 by transient 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's crazy how sports talk has gone from informed opinions and actual journalism to what it has become now. Now you have shows like undisputed with Shannon and Skip and other shows that have followed the template of "put former athlete on show and have him make wild statements that are unsubstantiated but will drum up conversation on our social media" I usually just stick to Dan Patrick in the morning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000927196/Soul-Science-How-fast-can-Josh-Allen-throw hmm... interesting. That’s the first time I’ve heard that about Allen. Soul & science measured his release at 38 hundredths of a second, which they said is on par with Tom Brady and IIRC also one of the faster release times measured. Later in the video they also measure his throwing motion on the run. They said 2/3rds if his throwing motion (on the run) took only 25 hundredths of a second. Thanks for posting this. I just tweeted to Cris Carter that he should look at the research & not just the TV & i linked the study. I liked Carters play on the football field but off the field man does he say some stupid things. Thanks for giving me the ammo to correct his point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Chris is mad cause Josh doesn’t have won't ever need a fall guy yet Fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeetz1231 said: It's crazy how sports talk has gone from informed opinions and actual journalism to what it has become now. Now you have shows like undisputed with Shannon and Skip and other shows that have followed the template of "put former athlete on show and have him make wild statements that are unsubstantiated but will drum up conversation on our social media" I usually just stick to Dan Patrick in the morning. That's it. It has gone from an information exchange, to professional trolling. Trolls get ratings. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Nevermind Edited August 21, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Most of the sports talk media are no more factually informed than a bunch of drunks talking **** around the burn barrel. (Exception: if the burn barrel is in Buffalo the drunks are way more informed and accurate) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 If Allen has a slow release dahnold must be what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It feels like Carter watched one highlight throw of Allen’s and assumed every throw was like that. He spent more time talking about Allen than he did watching Allen to form a meaningful opinion. I have probably spent more time watching and re-watching Allen’s throws from college and this preseason than doing my job. I guess what I’m saying is that I’m doing my job more poorly than Carter is doing his job while doing Carter’s job better than him for free. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Carter said Allen should start week 1 even if AJM is cleared. He softened his stance on JA a bit this morning. Probably read a few of the things you guy sent him. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, aristocrat said: If Allen has a slow release dahnold must be what? Pitching from the wind up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I mean when you look at his throw you can see the arm is a little back like he mentions....but when you watch the throw live its fine. He def was looking at a picture and not actual video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, hemma said: I want his job. I don’t think you can apply. Pretty sure village idiot positions are filled by appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: Watch "2018 Draft Top QB's Skills Tested & Broken Down with Soul & Science | NFL" on YouTube https://www.google.com/amp/s/trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/football/john-brenkus-of-espn-s-sport-science-analyzes-josh-allen/article_dfd31bdd-f0d7-5a2f-8811-4f3a22c661c1.amp.html Carter is so far off base with this evaluation. Not even being a homer, just completely flabbergasted at how wrong Carter is/was in his assertions about Allen. If anything his arm strength and release will bail him out of being a little late because how fast and quick the kid can rip it. Josh has some pretty good catching mitts. Maybe some "Philly specials" in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 He must have fallen off the wagon. He needs to start going to meetings again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I pay so very little to what moronic athletes like him and mikael irvin have to say.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 10 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000927196/Soul-Science-How-fast-can-Josh-Allen-throw hmm... interesting. That’s the first time I’ve heard that about Allen. Soul & science measured his release at 38 hundredths of a second, which they said is on par with Tom Brady and IIRC also one of the faster release times measured. Later in the video they also measure his throwing motion on the run. They said 2/3rds if his throwing motion (on the run) took only 25 hundredths of a second. Yep I posted this months about about Allen. His tangible numbers are fantastic, his only concern was would his completion% improve going to the NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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