PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 https://wnymedia.net/2018/05/the-buffalo-news-is-in-big-financial-trouble/ I guess Bills Blitz isn't panning out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Save some salary by cutting Jerry Sullivan. He's not very good, and doesn't add much to the BN. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 What’s a newspaper? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I find it funny that a company owned by Warren Buffett would be in financial trouble. The Oligarch worth $75 Billion should stop taking so much money out of the paper and find a way to lower operating costs by taking less money back to Omaha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The loss of NeXt pains me. It's where I got in my start in journalism years ago. We all were contacted by the current manager asking us to write a short memory piece for the last one on Thursday. That'll be a bittersweet one. Simply put, the management of the News is so ungodly inept it makes me angry. I have never seen a bigger bunch of blowhards that don't know how to run the paper. They wanted to turn it into a mini NY Times, which is why they killed the partnership with the Associated Press. That was the beginning of the end. What do they have now? A crappy editorial section, a few good columnists (Sean Kirst deserves a Pulitzer) and some local news hounds like Maki Becker. They failed to adapt to the times and to the market. They could be doing well. They tried to be something that they could not. BN University? What a goddamn joke. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 They need to set up a retirement fund for Jerry on GoFundMe to get him out. It is a race and he is slower than a snail and slowing them down. Help Barnacle Bucky leave too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 If they listened to the people over the years and stopped running all the good talent out the door they would be fine. They did it to themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The loss of NeXt pains me. It's where I got in my start in journalism years ago. We all were contacted by the current manager asking us to write a short memory piece for the last one on Thursday. That'll be a bittersweet one. Simply put, the management of the News is so ungodly inept it makes me angry. I have never seen a bigger bunch of blowhards that don't know how to run the paper. They wanted to turn it into a mini NY Times, which is why they killed the partnership with the Associated Press. That was the beginning of the end. What do they have now? A crappy editorial section, a few good columnists (Sean Kirst deserves a Pulitzer) and some local news hounds like Maki Becker. They failed to adapt to the times and to the market. They could be doing well. They tried to be something that they could not. BN University? What a goddamn joke. I want you to know I read this in my best Muscle Man voice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, fansince88 said: I want you to know I read this in my best Muscle Man voice. I used my Arnold Schwarzenegger voice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, Augie said: What’s a newspaper? ...dog training material.....Jerry's column works best........... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I find it funny that a company owned by Warren Buffett would be in financial trouble. The Oligarch worth $75 Billion should stop taking so much money out of the paper and find a way to lower operating costs by taking less money back to Omaha. This level of financial acumen belongs in the Business section of The Buffalo News! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...dog training material.....Jerry's column works best........... I brought back newspaper after a game and when done put it in bird cage. My parrot refused to go in. Some have taste and some have knee pads. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I guess this free online content is not such a great business model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I’d be curious to see if the opinions here match what the metrics tell them... are fans quick to hate jerry but likewise quick to click? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. Wow...that really is crazy. Shocker they’re in financial trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I have not clicked on a Buffalo News story since Paygate established except via someone using (being a paid shill I guess) a redirection link rather than using actually link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’d be curious to see if the opinions here match what the metrics tell them... are fans quick to hate jerry but likewise quick to click? Would be interesting to see. Can't speak for others, but won't even type his name in the very few threads that he's been discussed. Haven't read any articles of his in at least 10 years. Though somewhere, still have a clipping of his classic '90 prediction that the Bills would stink because they would once again be the Bickering Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. And let me guess... another full page devoted to a weather forecast that's over 12 hours old? Horoscopes? A column dedicated to a particular Bridge setup? Classified ads that are nothing more than a bunch of legal notices? Buffett should have killed the print product or sold off its assets to one of the local TV stations years ago. Somewhat related, my parents back in NYS just dropped their subscription to the Poughkeepsie Journal. Gannett was asking $650 for a year of the PJ, which was mostly USA Today articles with a dash or two of stories written locally, mostly consisting of high school sports. It's a shame that Gannett/PJ hasn't adapted to the internet because the Mid Hudson Valley has no local TV, and being part of the NYC DMA, gets next to zero local coverage of anything happening in the area. My dad apparently won't miss it... my mom was more worried about losing coupons than missing out on any actual news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I thankfully do not live where the Buffalo News in the main source of information. When I visit family-which is basically a few weeks every year- I find it pathetic. Sullivan basically reruns the same columns each year with new names but same bashing. The rest of news is always with the same slant and never only facts. If you are going to go the route of sensationalist then you need to know you will shrink your audience when the intelligent people realize it. Most of Buffalo is intelligent and has decided that they want a different choice which is now readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napmaster Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Well... they outlasted the Courier-Express by 36 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1960 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 When I lived in Buffalo, my paper of choice was the Courier Express, the writes were better along with the sports coverage in my opinion. Phil Randall (I think) was a great spots writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 When I lived in town, i got all the news I needed from Artvoice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch! Enjoy the unemployment line, chumps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain_Quint said: I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. I swear my octogenarian mother still subscribes to the local print edition mostly for the TV listings (she can't figure out that damn on screen guide thingy) and the daily horoscope and celebrity birthdays. You lose that base and what's left? I haven't subscribed to a local paper for about half a dozen years, but I'd hate to see them disappear. I just don't see how they survive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: https://wnymedia.net/2018/05/the-buffalo-news-is-in-big-financial-trouble/ I guess Bills Blitz isn't panning out Now people will have NO CHOICE but to get their news from local am radio stations. The future is yours Promo! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Now people will have NO CHOICE but to get their news from local am radio stations. The future is yours Promo! So far behind he's ahead! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Print is dead. We recently went from getting the whole week, to just Friday to Sunday. Had too many unread copies being tossed out. Only parts of the Buffalo News I care about are The Gusto and the Sunday paper. Find it funny when you read news that is 48 hours old by the time I get the paper. Actually forgot what I’m reading happened. I don’t need to read a paper that is full of MY opinions. I want a paper that has its own opinion, but is not biased. Never believed a newspaper should force their options on the readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The loss of NeXt pains me. It's where I got in my start in journalism years ago. We all were contacted by the current manager asking us to write a short memory piece for the last one on Thursday. That'll be a bittersweet one. Simply put, the management of the News is so ungodly inept it makes me angry. I have never seen a bigger bunch of blowhards that don't know how to run the paper. They wanted to turn it into a mini NY Times, which is why they killed the partnership with the Associated Press. That was the beginning of the end. What do they have now? A crappy editorial section, a few good columnists (Sean Kirst deserves a Pulitzer) and some local news hounds like Maki Becker. They failed to adapt to the times and to the market. They could be doing well. They tried to be something that they could not. BN University? What a goddamn joke. Know how you feel, where I work it's the same thing, I don't know how we are still in business. We had a 40 yr employee go off on the management (I know not smart) and he was fired immediately. He was right though. BN University ?? Edited May 16, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 It doesn’t take a rockwt scientist to figure out their model was severely outdated even a few years ago. I feel bad because I fell that the content in the News is very high quality. The other thing that I think made everyone scratch their heads was the whole Bliss Blitz paywall. Again, the content and reporters (despite what some may think) are actually good. But with so many news outlets available for free on the internet both locally and nationally, the idea to pay for sports coverage didn’t seem like it would work. ESPN is even having issues with premium accounts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Limeaid said: They need to set up a retirement fund for Jerry on GoFundMe to get him out. It is a race and he is slower than a snail and slowing them down. Help Barnacle Bucky leave too. Eff that. Let he and a few other columnists be assigned a Bookface identity, and they can pontificate from that platform. Strictly on a voluntary basis, as the rest of the commentary is. Hard news reporting seems in short supply there. Their idea of news appears to be 'Smiles At' photo galleries. Edited May 16, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I've always had a subscription to the BN , might be time for them to go all online for a cheaper price and up to the minute news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Who will I not get my sports news from now? Hate to see anyone lose their job though. Hopefully they can pull through this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Who will I not get my sports news from now? Hate to see anyone lose their job though. Hopefully they can pull through this. Thank you. Regardless of the salty takes Sully et al have had over the years - most of which warranted, frankly - these are still people with families. At the end of the day, this isn't the fault of the reporters per se, but that of the execs and digital people that ever really made TBN that enticing from a design standpoint. The site is clunky and not programmed well by an editor. They probably could go use a wordpress theme and have a better site in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitum Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Good, I hope they fold up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Infinitum said: Good, I hope they fold up. Newspapers typically do. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, billsfan1960 said: When I lived in Buffalo, my paper of choice was the Courier Express, the writes were better along with the sports coverage in my opinion. Phil Randall (I think) was a great spots writer. I think you mean Phil Ranallo. Very funny guy. Used to write the "What's up Harry" sports column. His bet stuff was Monday mornings after any Bills game. Delivered that paper for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, billsfan1960 said: When I lived in Buffalo, my paper of choice was the Courier Express, the writes were better along with the sports coverage in my opinion. Phil Randall (I think) was a great spots writer. Ranallo http://buffalonews.com/2016/01/18/remembering-whats-new-harry-and-phil-ranallo/ Edited May 16, 2018 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I will miss Jerry Sullivan's positive outlook on the Buffalo Bills 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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