MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Chicharito said: Me when they handed the ball to Tolbert on 2&25. Opening Kickoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Right after they gifted KB's touchdown away. We all realized we had to fight the refs too, and I think we really got demoralized. BINGO BINGO... That was it. Then it got further emphasized with the gift 4th down reach and the phantom holding on Shady's catch and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, What a Tuel said: I'd love to know why they ruled him down and when? Was forward progress called? It seems they blew the whistle before he ever touched the ground. Looking at both plays, the replay actually supported the case FOR a Benjamin TD and the replay on their 4th was not conclusive to overturn that 4th stop and make it a 1st. There was no clear view to show that his knee was up or down in the mob. {Plays stands. But it was the Pats. That and and the lack of any meaningful call against them. Our penalties were game changers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Sorry to say this, but you asked. In September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) kickoff. seriously, when Clay made the drop. It was over for me then. you need to hit on everything on the road against top 5 teams. no drops. get turnovers. Bills not strong enough yet Edited December 24, 2017 by 8-8 Forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When Tyrod threw the ball at Shady's feet at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When the schedule was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 The 1st and goal at the 10 and then the 8 yard loss on the screen play to DiMarco. Was still 13-13 at the time. I knew when they just got the FG it was most likely over as they didn't get the kill. Regardless they stopped them on 4th and goal next series. Well technically they did, the powers that be thought otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 LOL lots of funny answers but to me the Clay drop was pivotal. Then to compound it with the KB no TD... Only the Patriots get these calls. 1 minute ago, Another Fan said: The 1st and goal at the 10 and then the 8 yard loss on the screen play to DiMarco. Was still 13-13 at the time. I knew when they just got the FG it was most likely over as they didn't get the kill. Regardless they stopped them on 4th and goal next series. Well technically they did, the powers that be thought otherwise Man I hated that call. Geez it was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Last week when I realized we were playing the Pats. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Chicharito said: Me when they handed the ball to Tolbert on 2&25. The was waving the white flag for me. Showed you are not serious about winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Three weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When Benjamin was robbed (by the refs as usual) for the TD........and then the 4th and 1 when they didnt got for it......a game like this with everything on the line you gotta have some balls and go for it.....nope not our team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When they resigned Taylor in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When we didnt to for it on 4th and I then missed the FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When McDermott decided a 50 yard field goal attempt was smarter than attempting to convert a 4th and 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, Another Fan said: The 1st and goal at the 10 and then the 8 yard loss on the screen play to DiMarco. Was still 13-13 at the time. I knew when they just got the FG it was most likely over as they didn't get the kill. Regardless they stopped them on 4th and goal next series. Well technically they did, the powers that be thought otherwise You have to wonder what possibly could have been on Taylor’s mind to do anything but throw the ball away for an incompletion on the DiMarco play where on earth does he come up with these horrible ad hoc panic disasters? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When they were taking too long to decide that Benjamin's TD wasn't a TD. I got the sense that the guy reviewing the play in NY was waiting to see a deposit into his bank account from Robert Kraft before making his decision. I'm so sick of the blatant garbage in the WWENFL that I may not watch another game til preseason next year. I sure as **** won't watch another patriot game, their outcomes are too predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Right after they gifted KB's touchdown away. We all realized we had to fight the refs too, and I think we really got demoralized. We lost by 21. That’s what many people will say. The call made no difference. To to that I say bull ****. But, whatever. 4 more years and I can legally have a drink with our playoff drought, so we have that going for us; which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, mjt328 said: I usually consider Patriot games an automatic loss from the get-go. Even in games like today, I never really believed we had a true chance at winning. Hardly ever do have a chance at winning against the Pats. Agreed. Always seems like the Bills have to play the refs also in some form or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Hardly ever do have a chance at winning against the Pats. Agreed. Always seems like the Bills have to play the refs also in some form or another. Refs brought dat OOOMPH mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I knew when the schedule came out in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 At the national anthem when Taylor was standing there without the flu. 45 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: When they resigned Taylor in the offseason Good one, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: At the national anthem when Taylor was standing there without the flu. Good one, agreed. And who would be the starter? Peterman would have gotten the Bills a top ten draft pick and no playoffs. They had limited options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Once we were insidd the Patriot 10 yard line on back to back possessions to end the first half and begin the second half and we got 2 FGs instead of 2 TDs...one on the Clay drop/Benjamin screwed over sequence and then Shady gets us inside the ten and we try some stupid trick play throwback screen to O'Leary that loses 9 yards on 1st down... Could have went up by 2 TDs and put a lot of pressure on the Pats but we kept them in it and let the refs help work their magic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Chicharito said: Me when they handed the ball to Tolbert on 2&25. I'll do you one better, son............when TT actually put the team in the -25 yards from scrimmage to begin with. TT was friggin disgraceful today. Yeah, he had a couple of good plays, but when the game was wide open for us to finally take control in the 2nd half, he let them team down (yet again) by trying to be fancy in the backfield instead of just throwing the ball away. TT has to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 40 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I knew when the schedule came out in April. Weve known for 17 years now, if Brady played and cared the ship be sinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 To win this game we would have to had played completely error free and converted every red zone trip into a TD. We failed to do that. The drop in the endzone by Clay? was a gut punch, the Benjamin TD being overturned was a kick to the nuts but we were still looking good on that first drive of the 2nd half. The real momentum swinger was the 15 yard sack on TT. It killed the entire series right there. Probably one of TT's worst plays as a Bill. Once they had us there the Pats D smelled the blood in the water. It was absolutely crucial we score on that possession and give our D some time to rest instead after the sack we have an absolutely incredible 2nd and 25 but here comes the call of the season from Dennison. A draw to Tubby Tolbert. Maybe Shady there might have caught them off guard but a big lumbering guy like Tolbert who even if he had the element of surprise on the draw would have been so slow that the defenders would have caught him before even 10 yards just finished us off. 2 supremely boneheaded plays in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I really think PI needs to be changed from a spot foul to a 10 yard penalty. The current rule gives the officials too much power to decide the outcome of the game on what is obviously a judgment call that is applied in a totally inconsistent manner. With some teams mysteriously being on the right side of the calls all the time, getting the calls and not getting called. It seems lIke part of the playbook of some teams to 'draw' these fouls by chucking the ball downfield instead of something that happens as a result of the play, gaming the rules. Brady certainly does this and to their credit it works. As for plays that decided the game 15 yard sack, Clay's drop, bogus replay, and missed FG from 50 were it for me. That sound like a good solution. In practice i am afraid every defender will do PI on every throw to prevent the big play anytime it is even an inkling of being completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Three weeks ago 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: I knew when the schedule came out in April. Pretty much. You can set your watch to the annual halftime tease against the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 4th and 1 at the NE 32 and McDermott elects to attempt the 50 yard FG instead of going for it. Hauschka missed. Game over. I agree but will also add.....I felt the game was over when Hauschka trotted onto the field. The result didn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 missed FG after not going for it on 4th down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 What's sad is that there are so many legitimate answers to the OP's question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 hours ago, Steptide said: As soon as we didn't go for it in 4th and 1 or whatever. Knew we were gonna miss that fg Right then and there. What I said at the time: you know the Pats are going to score on every possession in the 2nd half. You need points, and a lot of them. Not just a chance at 3 points. I hate to say it, but the Pats proved me right, almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When the schedule came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When the pats went up 30 to 16. Also had a bad feeling when they took our TD away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 There was a Fat Lady....and she wouldn’t shut up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 When Taylor took the sack to create a 2nd and 25 The draw might have worked if the Bills had a BU RB that doesn't look like he is running wearing snowshoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 5 hours ago, Steptide said: As soon as we didn't go for it in 4th and 1 or whatever. Knew we were gonna miss that fg Going for it on 4Rth and 2 in the first half was a mistake as well, always take the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Going for it on 4Rth and 2 in the first half was a mistake as well, always take the points. That actually didn’t bother me. As it turned out, we got the pick 6 right after. If they take the 3, probably doesn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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