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19 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I am not sure this is preventing Shaq from coming into camp to compete for that back end of the rotation DE spot. Seems like this guy is more of a marginal DL addition. 


Let’s see what this guy is getting paid in terms of guaranteed … I expect them to bring in another guy at DE as well either draft or someone still on the shelf later 

 

It doesn’t close the door on Shaq .. just makes it more difficult… I think he likes it in Buffalo at this stage of his career and might even settle for a PS position 

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14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


Let’s see what this guy is getting paid in terms of guaranteed … I expect them to bring in another guy at DE as well either draft or someone still on the shelf later 

 

It doesn’t close the door on Shaq .. just makes it more difficult… I think he likes it in Buffalo at this stage of his career and might even settle for a PS position 

 

I wouldn't mind Shaq as the 5th/6th DE on the roster he's still a good run defender and not the worst pass rusher. You could do worse. However, I think the Bills are on a bit of a youth movement especially along the defensive line where they have thus far let Poona Ford, Leonard Floyd and Tim Settle sign with other teams while Jordan Phillips, Linval Joseph (whose probably going to retire or take a mid-season contract) and Shaq remain unsigned. The only vet they brought back was Daquon whose really the only one tech they had. 

 

Still a lot of options out there to round out the rotation and time/room for Shaq to get a camp spot. 

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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

Never heard of him nor do I even know what position he plays without reading this thread lol

As he is caucasian, we have seen the obligatory Trent Murphy and Chris Kelsay references. I think that may be all you need to know about Mr Toohill. Let’s hope he surpasses both of those Bills Legends. Not to the level of say, Gibran Hamdan. He’s the archetypal Bills Legend.

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2 hours ago, teef said:

i had to google who he was, and this was the first thing i saw...

 

https://riggosrag.com/posts/washington-commanders-players-dont-deserve-roster-anymore/3

He'd be better playing in warm weather.  He's from San Diego & went to Stanford.  I guess Beane didn't believe Deion & wanted to show him how wrong he thinks Deion is about kids who grow up in warm weather playing in cold weather cities.  

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2 hours ago, teef said:

i had to google who he was, and this was the first thing i saw...

 

https://riggosrag.com/posts/washington-commanders-players-dont-deserve-roster-anymore/3

 

Yikes

 

3. Casey Toohill, EDGE
It is going to be extremely difficult for any team to replace both Chase Young and Montez Sweat immediately after trading them. Casey Toohill has stepped into a starting role since their departures, and he's hardly been an ideal replacement.

 

If you asked Pro Football Focus, Toohill is ranked 97th out of 109 possible players at his position around the NFL. That's ... in a word ... bad. Toohill is one of the biggest reasons this Washington defense is in the bottom half of the league against the run. He has been one of the worst run defenders on this unit, by far.

 

On a positive note, Toohill does have 5.0 sacks on the season. But, that is also kind of a fluky number. Toohill has been far from consistent in garnering pressure on opposing quarterbacks. Consider those sacks more so of a few "flash in the pan" type moments. They're more of an anomaly than they are the norm.

 

Washington has to overhaul the edge position, obviously, and Toohill likely won't make it back onto this roster after nearly four seasons here.

 

 

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He actually has some athleticism.  His 4.62 40 time is faster than a lot of guys who will be drafted in the first couple rounds of the draft.  His 39 inch vertical is even better compared with prospects at DE.  The question is whether or not good coaching can help him address the shortcomings in his game, especially in run defense.  In any case, he'll be a fringe player at best, getting reps only if guys ahead of him are injured.  

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3 hours ago, NewEra said:

 


The biggest thing I see in that video is he plays with leverage and keeps gap integrity, which is something the Bills DL seems to struggle with. And I know its fun to poke fun about the motor and lunch pail and stuff, but the dude seems to be relentless in his pursuit. I don’t know if he even makes the team, but there are certainly traits there. 

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4 hours ago, teef said:

i had to google who he was, and this was the first thing i saw...

 

https://riggosrag.com/posts/washington-commanders-players-dont-deserve-roster-anymore/3

 

I can't read it (must be something on the page my browser doesn't like)

 

I like what I found on Wiki better

Washington Football Team / Commanders[edit]

On October 14, 2020, Toohill was claimed off waivers by the Washington Football Team.[6]

In Week 6 of the 2021 season, Toohill recorded his first career sack on Kansas City Chiefs' quarterback, Patrick Mahomes.[7] He had his first career start in Week 11 against the Carolina Panthers in place of Chase Young, who was placed on the team's injured reserve. On December 11, 2021, he was placed on COVID-19 reserve list; Toohill was forced to sit out the Week 14 game against the Dallas Cowboys, but reactivated a week later.[8]

In Week 10 of the 2022 season, Toohill scored his first career touchdown in a victory over the then-undefeated Eagles; he recovered the ball in a failed lateral pass from Eagles' receiver DeVonta Smith and returned it 1 yard to the end zone in the final play of the game.[9]

In the 2023 season, Toohill was elevated in the defense's starting lineup before Week 9; following Week 8, the Commanders had traded both of their original starting defensive ends, Chase Young and Montez Sweat.[10]

 

6'5", 250 lb, 4.62 s 40-time.    39" vertical.

Started 8 games last season, had 5 sacks 7 QB hits, a PD, and 26 tackles (17 solo), in 45% of the defensive snaps.

 

NFL Draft Profile:  

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Toohill's a tricky projection based upon his issues stopping the run, but he has great flashes as a pass rusher. His body type may not be fully finished and additional play strength would be crucial considering his inability to anchor and shed against run blocks. His rush is much less effective against stronger tackles, but he's a decent athlete and hints at rush skill that has room for development. He's currently caught between a 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE. If he can become bigger, stronger and more polished as a rusher, he might make sense as a backup edge with sub-package talent as a wide-9 technique.

"I put a projection grade on him because he's athletic and long and should grow into his frame even more. I think he's way better in two years." -- West Coast scout for NFC team

 

Assuming he signed for cheap, sounds like a guy who could have some potential to develop, at least as depth.

 

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

 

 

What I like about this, is per his draft scouting report coming out, he showed some promise as a pass rusher but was weak against the run.

 

Seems to me there is some good run defense in there. 

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5 hours ago, NewEra said:

 

 

Thanks for posting this. Based on the video he looks like Trent Murphy and probably at a fraction of the cost.

 

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Actually he is super athletic!

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Yes he is. His vertical and broad jump in particular. Those traits are usually associated with "explosiveness."

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/casey-toohill/3200544f-4f26-0938-ca59-565da861a195

 

3 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

He actually has some athleticism.  His 4.62 40 time is faster than a lot of guys who will be drafted in the first couple rounds of the draft.  His 39 inch vertical is even better compared with prospects at DE.  The question is whether or not good coaching can help him address the shortcomings in his game, especially in run defense.  In any case, he'll be a fringe player at best, getting reps only if guys ahead of him are injured.  

 

This is probably our 5th DE once the smoke clears on the offseason.

 

Good signing.

 

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7 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

He can’t be worse than von

 

*ducks*

Giving Von the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't fully recovered and he can come back to an elite edge this year. 

 

I feel Beane thinks he will

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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:


The biggest thing I see in that video is he plays with leverage and keeps gap integrity, which is something the Bills DL seems to struggle with. And I know its fun to poke fun about the motor and lunch pail and stuff, but the dude seems to be relentless in his pursuit. I don’t know if he even makes the team, but there are certainly traits there. 

With our luck he'll be next January's AJ Klein when everyone else is injured.

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