JMM Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Obviously the Bills tried to trade him. Possibly they never got a good offer, but it's just as likely no other team was really interested. Which again confirms to me my opinion, which is that the issues with him go well beyond physical and his " fit" in our scheme. So now what? Inactive the rest of the year? Try to give him one more chance? Most likely he gets traded again after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Keep working. His work effort on the field or off is not impressing the team. Time for him to look in the mirror and decide if he wants to be an NFL player. Edited October 31, 2023 by oldmanfan 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JMM said: Obviously the Bills tried to trade him. Possibly they never got a good offer, but it's just as likely no other team was really interested. Which again confirms to me my opinion, which is that the issues with him go well beyond physical and his " fit" in our scheme. So now what? Inactive the rest of the year? Try to give him one more chance? Most likely he gets traded again after the season. Good chance he's traded in the off season. More moves tend to happen then anyway. Or maybe it just takes him awhile to get it and will become good. There's a fairly good size list of players who everyone here wanted to be cut/traded but turned out to be a decent player. Oliver comes to mind at the top of the list along with AJ. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, JMM said: Obviously the Bills tried to trade him. Possibly they never got a good offer, but it's just as likely no other team was really interested. Which again confirms to me my opinion, which is that the issues with him go well beyond physical and his " fit" in our scheme. So now what? Inactive the rest of the year? Try to give him one more chance? Most likely he gets traded again after the season. And we know this for sure, how???? 3 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He’s pretty raw but not without talent. He cost next to nothing. Get him some reps & experience. No need to give up on him yet. 6 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He has lots of time on his contract left so there is no reason to just give him away. It may click at some point and the position becomes a strength for the team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Certainly not obvious that the Bills tried to trade him. Keep trying to develop him while he's on his rookie deal. We know the talent and physical skills are there. Wait and see. Doesn't hurt anything. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Season tickets in the press box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) To all the folks who suggest he be traded - Traded for what??? He's a first round pick who can't get on the field, even when injuries strike. Who is press-boxed in favor of off-the-couch Josh freaking Norman! Who forced his GM to cough up a 3rd rounder to bring in yet another vet at the deadline! How do you wash that kind of stink off? I think they're stuck with him. Either the light bulb goes on, or they cut him in the off-season. Maybe they try to stash him on the practice squad, but it seems like they think he can't play pro ball at all. Edited October 31, 2023 by skibum 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Draft day or thereabouts. He’s finished here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He'll have a huge pick in the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: Season tickets in the press box My ass! I would assign him as the 'personal assistant to the Legend of the Game', making sure the organization doesn't drop the figurative ball anymore (see 'Spikes, Takeo'). 2 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: He'll have a huge pick in the playoffs "Nacho chips, or fries with my hot dog?" 🤔 Edited October 31, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, JMM said: Obviously the Bills tried to trade him. Possibly they never got a good offer, but it's just as likely no other team was really interested. Which again confirms to me my opinion, which is that the issues with him go well beyond physical and his " fit" in our scheme. So now what? Inactive the rest of the year? Try to give him one more chance? Most likely he gets traded again after the season. You got a link or are you just blindly assuming this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He’ll be a throw in another deal with a corner needy club. Maybe his agent can find a team willing to give him another shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He still sucks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Keep working. His work effort on the field or off is not impressing the team. Time for him to look in the mirror and decide if he wants to be an NFL player. Douglas is a guy who was considered a "bust" and bounced around several practice squads before putting it together. Maybe that kind of guy in the position room helps Elam turn it around. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 One more year to learn zone I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He keeps working to get better. The physical traits are there but gotta translate that on the field when given some opportunities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Just came out of Winn Dixie. They’re looking for a cart boy.. Possible promotion to night shift stock boy if it works out.. Edited October 31, 2023 by Chandler#81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Same as before the trade. Keep working hard while being inactive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You got a link or are you just blindly assuming this? Is it an assumption? Yes. Is it based on lots of good information and logical inferences? Yes. Now, you want to comment on the actual question of the post, or just be a foolish troll? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, JMM said: Is it an assumption? Yes. Is it based on lots of good information and logical inferences? Yes. Now, you want to comment on the actual question of the post, or just be a foolish troll? It's not a foolish troll. You don't have good information to suggest that. You assumed. What type of good info and logical reference would lead you to believe a Beane / McDermott team would shop a second year first round pick that THEY drafted? They believe in draft and develop. His post was far from a troll.. Seems like yours is more of a troll, tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Warcodered said: One more year to learn zone I guess. This.👍 And without the pressure. Edited October 31, 2023 by LyndonvilleBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: Douglas is a guy who was considered a "bust" and bounced around several practice squads before putting it together. Maybe that kind of guy in the position room helps Elam turn it around. Let’s hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He's done. He was done before the season started and only was allowed to get on the field due to significant injury. It's clear that McD has a major problem with him because his play is not nearly bad enough to warrant his current position on the team. He'll likely be cut or traded for a 6th/7th in the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, JMM said: Is it an assumption? Yes. Is it based on lots of good information and logical inferences? Yes. Now, you want to comment on the actual question of the post, or just be a foolish troll? I know he doesn’t need my help, but @Alphadawg7 is the not even close to being a troll. Quite the opposite. Much less foolish. Anyway, let’s let the season play out with Elam. We need depth. They’re backups for a reason, but still vital to a team. Edited November 1, 2023 by Dopey 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: Douglas is a guy who was considered a "bust" and bounced around several practice squads before putting it together. Maybe that kind of guy in the position room helps Elam turn it around. maybe that is the josh Norman job description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I’m just hoping he’s got some Zay Jones (did he really have 82 catches last year?) in him and he can work it out, becoming a productive player in this league. Some guys need time to grow into themselves. I hope he’s one, because he’s with us now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Somewhere in Buffalo, Kaiir Elam is slowly unpacking his bags, with a tear in his eye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: He's done. He was done before the season started and only was allowed to get on the field due to significant injury. It's clear that McD has a major problem with him because his play is not nearly bad enough to warrant his current position on the team. He'll likely be cut or traded for a 6th/7th in the offseason. His play isn't that bad. You are right. Of course his first game coming off being scratched for 5 weeks is going to be iffy. The next game, he was significantly improved. He's going to be one the guys that leaves Buffalo goes on to have a nice career and he's going to come out and talk about his time here and what went wrong and I can't wait for that. There has to be a serious vendetta against this guy... some sort of disconnect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) For a good number of Bills draft picks, they aren’t allowed to get better by playing, or be decent on early on a rookie contract. They’re required to sit behind some free agents until they’re a free agent. Once you go from rookie deal to extension, then and only then, can you grasp the Buffalo Bills. Edited October 31, 2023 by Mango 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 100%, I don't get how he is tradable period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Somewhere in Buffalo, Kaiir Elam is slowly unpacking his bags, with a tear in his eye. Much like Tom Brady’s father for many years before him. 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: My ass! I would assign him as the 'personal assistant to the Legend of the Game', making sure the organization doesn't drop the figurative ball anymore (see 'Spikes, Takeo'). "Nacho chips, or fries with my hot dog?" 🤔 Gotta go with fries and Chili. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 59 minutes ago, jkeerie said: And we know this for sure, how???? yeah, I was thinking that maybe this is a sign that they didn’t want to give up on him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I find it funny so many think he is bad but Benford and Dane are solid. They all look bad to me. Benford probably the best but he gives up his fair share and takes penalties every game 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jkeerie said: And we know this for sure, how???? Rumor was teams were only willing to give up a 7th round draft pick for him. The Bills were asking for a 6th and no one was interested. Edited October 31, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JMM said: Is it an assumption? Yes. Is it based on lots of good information and logical inferences? Yes. Now, you want to comment on the actual question of the post, or just be a foolish troll? First of all, you just asserted multiple things in your post, so how is asking for clarification on whether or not those are just your assumptions or if there are actual facts being a "foolish troll"? Especially since you just confirmed they are just blind assumptions and not actual facts lol Second, as far as Elam goes, his season will go as he goes in practice. He obviously isn't someone they feel is ready or he would be active, so he is going to need to earn their trust in practice and prove he is worthy of being active on game day. And we have already seen that they are not afraid to keep him inactive, so I don't expect him to be active unless they feel he is ready or injuries force their hand again. Personal opinion is that I don't think Beane is ready to just give up on Elam yet, but they are also not going to just put him out there because of his draft status either. I think he is someone who will likely be traded in the offseason if by the end of this season he hasn't worked his way onto the active roster still. Edited October 31, 2023 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: Rumor was teams were only willing to give up a 7th round draft pick for him. Around the ol’ water cooler? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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