Warcodered Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: This thread shows more ignorance than the typical game day thread. I didn’t think that was possible. Pretty much, all day it's been "Hey why isn't Bean doing anything, What's he doing, Come on make a move, Do something *****," he does something immediate response "Not that!" 2 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: When you give up a 3rd you need to be getting a difference maker, he is not him. Beane just keeps on screwing up We gave up a 3rd, sure. but still have a 3rd from Edmunds as a comp pick. So we really gave up a 5th for him. Feel better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over We’re also getting a 5th back, and the guy is going to be a starting CB for us the rest of this season and probably through next season too. Word is Broncos wanted more for Surtain than Ramsey was traded for a few years back, which is more than what you are stating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Packers fans are upset and PFF grades him very high. Super high. Like one of the best coverage corners in NFL high. Essentially we wont be missing Tre White now Edited October 31, 2023 by BillsFan692 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane goy screwed over They didnt just give up a 3rd, they received a 5th back. They also get contract control for this year and next. This isnt Madden you cant just wish a Patrick Surtain trade into existence. The asking price for Surtain according to ESPN was more than the Jaguars got for Ramsey which was 2 1sts and a 4th. They werent giving up two 1sts for someone they would likely have to pay like the top CB in the league after next year. Bottom line is the guy wasnt available. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Yeah, it's a very good grade. Only players in the 80's are the elite (top 5 or top 10 players in that position in the league). And Allen is above a 90 right now...which should tell people something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t think the people saying they’ve never heard of Rasul Douglas are proving the point they think they are 😂 They have a narrative. Not a point. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: The answer is no. I'm 100% convinced people here only watch the bills And they find that a mystery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Virgil said: Don't like it, especially not for a 3rd round pick. Is he even going to start over Benford and Jackson? That 3rd round pick could be way more important to this team as we will have a lot of holes to fill. I do not believe he will start exactly right away. But he will be around for another year or so and KE is likely out the door. The last time I saw him play he had a tough game. But we will see. We still have a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think he is an upgrade on our starters. Admittedly haven't seen a lot of Green Bay this season, but have seen a lot of Douglas since he came out of that good 2017 draft class. The Eagles ended up cutting him, 3 years after spending a 3rd on him because teams CONSTANTLY targeted him then he bounced around practice squads before sticking in Green Bay. No team in the NFL has misevaluated DBs as consistently as Green Bay in the past decade. For a 3rd with a 5th coming back I really do not like this. I think he is a better fit in our scheme than Elam but he is a lateral move from Jackson and Benford for me. Maybe he has suddenly improved a ton and will prove me wrong but man I hate this deal. I like Rasul Douglas but if he doesn't beat out Jackson, I don't understand giving up a third round pick for him. So I'm hoping GB that he's improved since you last saw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, ytownblofan said: Good on Beane for having multiple forks in the fire and being able to pivot when he realized Jaylon wasn't happening https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1719443222185799811?s=20 Johnson likely priced himself out of any trade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over Patrick surtain was getting two firsts+ easily if moved. Denver is fine building around him and would’ve needed a massive deal to move him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: These guys have a pretty decent track record with DBs. Well, the last DB we got from GB turned out ok.😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Good move. Solid player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 FWIW I think this is a great trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Pretty much, all day it's been "Hey why isn't Bean doing anything, What's he doing, Come on make a move, Do something *****," he does something immediate response "Not that!" The Halloween classic! Same every year! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: He has improved vastly from when he was in Philly It was like a light went on for him when he went to GB You are judging him based off the old information you had from what you saw when he was with the Eagles. He's not the same player, and we usually get the best from corners when they get integrated into this scheme. He's an upgrade over Dane, and maybe even Benford I hope you are right. But I saw him last year and thought he still sucked. Josh shares my view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Comp picks have not been awarded yet. You can't trade what doesn't exist, so unless they have acquired anything this is the Packers own. The 3rd for sure is the Bills own. We'd figure the Bills to end up 20-25 and Pack 5-10 in selection order so the delta will likely be ~50 draft slots, so that's the actual price paid for Ras'al Ghul. It ends up being a 4th round pick according to the NFL Trade Value Chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I also like that Tom Grossi says he is a vocal leader. We love those types here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, juno999 said: I like Rasul Douglas but if he doesn't beat out Jackson, I don't understand giving up a third round pick for him. So I'm hoping GB that he's improved since you last saw him. Exactly , may as well have added another receiver to stretch the field. Either way a 3rd rounder has to bring you someone that can make a difference and I don't see it with this guy. 4.6 forty so he is not super fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Fortunesmith said: Everything I’m reading is he is a big playmaker, aggressive, a leader that fits our zone Defense. Great move by Beane! 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: It ends up being a 4th round pick according to the NFL Trade Value Chart. Clearly Beane wants to keep his 4th to move up 2 slots in next year's First round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) We did something! He seems grossly undersized to play DT but I’ll keep an open mind. Edited October 31, 2023 by Bangarang 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The first page of this thread is embarrassing as a Bills fan. Watch more football people. It explains a LOT actually lol 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Packers fan/beat reporter reactions: 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Very nice trade! Legit veteran CB for a 3...an area of need. Love it and didn't give up the farm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I'm genuinely thrilled about this one. I think we can make do at LB and on the D-line (and, of course, hope that one or both of Milano & Jones gets back this year). The offense showed what they can be last week, so I didn't see WR as a big need. But we needed a good CB. And we got one. This will elevate the defense - we won't get back to where we were the 1st month, but we'll be stingy again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thenorthremembers Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Pretty much, all day it's been "Hey why isn't Bean doing anything, What's he doing, Come on make a move, Do something *****," he does something immediate response "Not that!" Its because people have spent a month convincing themselves we were getting Davante Adams, Deandre Hopkins, or Derrick Henry. They get played by writers who dont seem to think Rasul Douglas will command clicks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I'm 100% convinced people here only watch the bills And even that is questionable for some 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Virgil said: Don't like it, especially not for a 3rd round pick. Is he even going to start over Benford and Jackson? That 3rd round pick could be way more important to this team as we will have a lot of holes to fill. Huh? Those two are meh players. Douglas is a GOOD player not a JAG like those 2. Edited October 31, 2023 by Big Turk 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Virgil said: Don't like it, especially not for a 3rd round pick. Is he even going to start over Benford and Jackson? That 3rd round pick could be way more important to this team as we will have a lot of holes to fill. everything I see say its a 5th round pick. where are you guys getting a 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, somnus00 said: He picked off our own Josh Allen... for those who don't know who he is. I mean, who hasn’t picked off Josh Allen at this point? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Will he play/start on Sunday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 At least Rasul is a cool name 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, steven50 said: everything I see say its a 5th round pick. where are you guys getting a 3rd? We get a 5th with Douglas. Cost us our 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, steven50 said: everything I see say its a 5th round pick. where are you guys getting a 3rd? We sent them a 3rd and they sent us Douglas and a 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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