Drew21PA Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I sure hope Josh Allen is not turning into Aaron Rodgers and becoming a head case someone just speak wisdom to the kid please https://www.outkick.com/bills-qb-josh-allen-gives-peek-into-whats-wrong-and-its-as-simple-as-the-uncertainty-in-his-head/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 He needs a what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I think they used to call "low positive" being calm, cool and collected. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Idiotic take (not you, the article). Clearly Josh is working on the mental side of his game and always has been. But the idea that reflection, experimentation, trying to grow and evolve (which of course will come with ups and downs) is somehow weak or confused or unhelpful is absurd. Sure overthinking things can be a problem in any area of life, but if that's happening, continued reflection will help him see that too. The article could have been interesting; the topic is interesting. But it's such a knee-jerk and/or clickbait angle. 6 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) If the health and wellness of this team depends upon Allen's mental state in entering every game, we and he are in trouble. These guys have a job to do and practice that job routinely. They get paid tens of millions in Allen's case. Get up and go and do your job. It's called execution. This shouldn't be anything more than that given his talent. This siht show leans more increasingly to coaching, or the lack of proper coaching, by the day now. SMH Honestly, WTF is next, some special ritual by the team before games. Mental safe spaces? This is starting to play out like some bad B-rate comedy-drama. Edited October 25, 2023 by PBF81 2 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Josh Allen is trying to stay 'low positive.' Here's what that means for the Buffalo Bills quarterback https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/josh-allen-is-trying-to-stay-low-positive-heres-what-that-means-for-the-buffalo/article_c1a4bb80-72a0-11ee-af89-b3bab684408d.html This one's not behind a pay wall Quarterback Josh Allen says his new 'low positive' approach might be behind Bills sluggish starts https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/quarterback-josh-allen-says-his-new-low-positive-approach-might-be-behind-bills-sluggish-starts/ar-AA1iMGpx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 There’s no room for “low positive” when you are blessed with high “arm arrogance.” 🧐. He says he thinks he plays better with his emotions in check—but I think we need to still sometimes see the fired up Josh that gets his team to run through walls for him! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Sounds like a job for Doggy Downers. Edited October 25, 2023 by Beast 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 “Maybe I’ve got to be more upbeat and be a voice a little bit more loud — let my emotions show a little more,” Yes Josh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beast said: Sounds like a job for Doggy Downers. or maybe he needs puppy uppers 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I actually really like low positive....the idea is perfect for what Josh needs to be at his greatest. The thing that will actually help him take it to that final step is being able to shut it on and off at will. I think good play calls would really help him get there. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I kind of like this and kind of don't. I think there's general agreement that week 1 was a classic example of Sugar High Josh and it cost us the game. So getting that under control is absolutely necessary. The problem is he dialed it all back so when the whole team is in Sugar Low mode, the only one trying to fire up the guys is Diggs. It's finding the right balance. Maybe turn it up most of the time, but have a trusted voice on the sideline that can tell him "you're getting into Sugar High, you need to dial it back for yourself, but not the rest of the team" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 This sounds like something a Hollywood actress would say. I wonder where Josh could’ve gotten this from? 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 As I said in the other thread on this (from when he said it), it's mindfullness/PT stuff. He probably talked to a sports psychologist after week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This sounds like something a Hollywood actress would say. I wonder where Josh could’ve gotten this from? Sounds like something Aaron Rodgers would say to be honest. Next thing we know Josh is going to want to head off to a dark retreat to feel more at "zen". Seriously, if anyone hears Josh if headed to golf with Rodgers next off season...someone steal his clubs, please. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Been saying this for the past few weeks that he looks out of it on the sideline. Imo this is a huge part of the problem. The offense and team play off their biggest star. If he’s looking like a dud, So will they. Hopefully he really recognizes it and fixes it and it fixes the problem 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, BCAS Baritone said: Josh Allen is trying to stay 'low positive.' Here's what that means for the Buffalo Bills quarterback https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/josh-allen-is-trying-to-stay-low-positive-heres-what-that-means-for-the-buffalo/article_c1a4bb80-72a0-11ee-af89-b3bab684408d.html This one's not behind a pay wall Quarterback Josh Allen says his new 'low positive' approach might be behind Bills sluggish starts https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/quarterback-josh-allen-says-his-new-low-positive-approach-might-be-behind-bills-sluggish-starts/ar-AA1iMGpx Then maybe Josh Allen needs to stop trying to be "low positive" and start trying to be whatever he was in 2020, 2021 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 DJ Low Positive? Is this like DJ Dragon Nutz or Pimp-Lo from Pitch Perfect 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I just read this interview with Josh: ”Josh Allen just needs to be Josh Allen and he will be fine. Because when Josh Allen is is Josh Allen no one is a better Josh Allen. Others may try to be Josh Allen but they are not the same. Well that Josh Allen in Jacksonville, he is a Josh Allen but a different Josh Allen. Now I’m getting confused what was the question? I have been thinking too much. I just need to slow down and be a slower Josh Allen but not a slower moving Josh Allen. No not that either. Wait, I got to go you guys are confusing me.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Funny, because the mental aspects of QB have been what he is struggling with. So, if that is the result of "low positive", he needs to change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) He seems to be saying he’s trying not to get over amped at the start of games and feels like he plays better when he’s just going slow and steady. There really is nothing wrong with that but the slow starts make it seem like he’s not mentally in the game till the second quarter. I would rather Psycho Josh show up in Cincy or KC or Philly as those games he’s going to have to be the best player on the field. If he has to be the best player on the field to beat a mediocre Tampa team this team has structural problems that won’t get fixed till the off season Edited October 25, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 think he put too much into week 1's results Jets defense did the same thing to Mahomes and Hurts Did they too go into a shell? Put it out of your head and play your football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, ngbills said: I just read this interview with Josh: ”Josh Allen just needs to be Josh Allen and he will be fine. Because when Josh Allen is is Josh Allen no one is a better Josh Allen. Others may try to be Josh Allen but they are not the same. Well that Josh Allen in Jacksonville, he is a Josh Allen but a different Josh Allen. Now I’m getting confused what was the question? I have been thinking too much. I just need to slow down and be a slower Josh Allen but not a slower moving Josh Allen. No not that either. Wait, I got to go you guys are confusing me.” Jimmy is sweet on Elaine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Interesting. And confirms some suspicions/issues I've been having. For the first few years of his career, Josh was a dedicated, laser-focused work horse during each offseason. It seemed every year he would come back having worked on one specific area (footwork, upper body mechanics, etc) that really helped him dial in and show up with at least a 33% improvement in his game (which is huge). By the end of 2021, he had his mechanics figured out and imo really only had one last hole in his game to address: his mindset. After the 13s KC game, I thought he had enough inspiration to figure it out. He needs to be the fierce, almost angry competitor that we saw that the end of that KC game. It reminded me very much of how Brady plays every game. I was hoping he'd come into 2022 with a focused, killer mindset. And in the Rams opener, it kinda looked like he might have figured it out. Unfortunately, by the Packers game it was apparent that mindset wouldnt stick, or was never really there to begin with. And now, this new "low positive" sounds like the opposite of where I want him to be. I love that Josh is a lovable goofball at heart, but I need a cold-blooded killer and fierce competitor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 All I read was Daboll needs to get fired and have a reunion in WNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I prefer this Josh Allen Over this one 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 This is great. QB1 is a basketcase now. We're ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: I think they used to call "low positive" being calm, cool and collected. Yes but you can charge more for teaching someone to be low positive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lost said: I prefer this Josh Allen Exactly the guy I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 It almost seems as if since he and his girlfriend broke up that he has not been himself since when on the field . 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: SMH Honestly, WTF is next, some specifics ritual by the team before games. Mental safe spaces? This is starting to play out like some bad B-rate comedy-drama. I blame the Bills offensive woes on the fact that Josh dropped his pre game puking ritual 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Josh needs to go on a vision quest with Aaron Rodgers, his spiritual adviser. Nothing that a few mushrooms and a couple days in soundless dark solitude won’t cure. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Yes i believe the coaches got into his head about running and being smart and it's slowed down his decision making. I personally don't care about the slow starts. He brought us back to win against the Giants. He put us ahead for the dolphins and the Defense crumbled. McD needs to find a DC this offseason. I am a bit annoyed when during pressers he says he hasn't put much thought into the offense because of his DC duties. The entire middle of our defense has been gutted do to injuries. YOu want to look to see what the problem is with the Bills start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) The more this gets discuss, the more idiots see it and the more it gets posted about on social media, the more Josh sees it and hears about it, the more he becomes affected by it. (sorry for the run-on). I vote stop discussing it. It could cause a slippery slope effect. Josh is fine. Edited October 25, 2023 by Blackbeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lost said: I blame the Bills offensive woes on the fact that Josh dropped his pre game puking ritual 🤮 Did he? I was wondering about that. LOL That's actually fine. Whatever you have to do while entering the field. Listen to certain music, yack, hop around on one foot, eat 3/4 of a donut, etc., whatever. That's all fine and good. But we seem to be leaning into new age mantra crap or the like. What's next, crystals over the exit to the lockerroom. It's a physical game that relies heavily on the player's conditioning and skills. It's also an intellectual game. Nothing more. The coach's job is to put it all together to yield the best possible results. That's what practices are for. These guys certainly get enough money to do exactly that. If the answer is simply letting Allen run wild, then serious questions need to be asked as to what McD's role actually is on that side of the ball. We'll see what happens on Sunday, but if it's anything but a decisive win, it risks getting fugly. Edited October 25, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 More sativa and less indica 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Can’t believe how coaching is ruining the best QB we’ve ever had. Just madness. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, T master said: It almost seems as if since he and his girlfriend broke up that he has not been himself since when on the field . 🤔 His ex got the dog and apparently his balls in the split. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) I think it comes down to preparation more than anything. We all speculate about how much film he watches, but you can’t tell me the All-22 shows a guy who’s in that film room constantly taking notes on different coverages. If Josh improves on anything, anything, I’d like to see it be pre-snap recognition. Knowing where to go with the ball, or at least where you think you should go with the ball based upon film study, would be immensely helpful for the offense. His concern about overdoing it in the film room was that the defense wouldn’t play the coverage they were showing on film. Well if your pre-snap read is wrong, okay let your instincts take over, react to what’s happening, but you can’t count on instincts down after down. Put in the study work and LOTS of it. You have receivers running open out there. EDIT: I also think this is the burden genetic freaks have on the football field. Lesser talents like Tua, Cousins, Purdy, etc. can’t win on arm arrogance. They have to find another way to succeed and that’s through film study, knowing where to go with the ball based on a look. We were able to take Tua’s first read away, where he thought he should go, and he lacked the physical ability to compensate for that. Allen doesn’t lack that ability and as a consequence, may not put in as much prep work as lesser physically gifted guys. Edited October 25, 2023 by JayBaller10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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