Twitter - Josh, Von called players only meeting (reporter also mentioned possibility at McD presser)

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

It’s not 100% on Dorsey. This is a tired and lazy take. Execution is terrible all over the place. Oline. Dline. QB. Wrs. Lots of blame it’s not one persons fault here. 

Of course not. There have been lapses in execution for sure. However, you have to wonder about the overall direction of the offense at this point. There doesn’t appear to be a lot of creativity within the scheme, and several elements that have been effective in the past are missing. 

[FLFan]

Thee are no doubt a number of issues with the Bills right now but in my view the bulk of the problem has been player execution.  It was largely in the offensive side the previous two weeks, but this week the defense stepped up and largely played poorly.  It starts with Allen and he has been inconsistent at best, missing reads and missing throws at critical times.  Missed blocking assignments up front, stupid penalties, drops have all contributed to killing drives at inopportune times.  Defensive technique and execution were major problems with the D this week. 
 

I know people want to blame the coaches, and if the players are executing this poorly they certainly are in line for some blame, but the players need a major kick in the arse, and hopefully this can contribute.  

[BuffaloBill]

22 hours ago, FireChans said:

Hope it works, but usually calling a players only meeting is a bad sign lmao

 

 

How is this a bad sign?  I would consider it worse if leadership only came from coaches.  The players have to exert leadership also.

[FireChans]

Just now, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

How is this a bad sign?  I would consider it worse if leadership only came from coaches.  The players have to exert leadership also.

It’s a bad sign because usually bad teams call players’ only meetings.

[BuffaloBill]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It’s a bad sign because usually bad teams call players’ only meetings.

 

 

No, players on bad teams revolt or just stay silent.   JA mentioned even before the season started that the Bills player leadership had to step up more based on the dynamics of the Cinci playoff game.  Diggs is trying to be more of a sideline leader for example.  

 

The O also has to come together better as the D is literally the walking wounded. If the Bills are going to make anything of this season they have to figure out how to change. 

[DrDawkinstein]

40 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

You mean expecting championships and excellence, instead of being content that the draught is over?

 

For real. The only knock is that we are missing the Lombardis to go along with it.

[BillsFanNC]

22 hours ago, BigBadBills said:

Why is everyone taking this tweet seriously? Guy has no followers or real inside information.

 

According to his X tagline....

 

Purveyor of inside scoops and mustache rides.

 

Nothing screams instant credibility quite like that can.

 

 

[Best Williams Available]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

It’s a bad sign because usually bad teams call players’ only meetings.

Teams that care call players meetings. Bad or good, at least they give a 💩 still.

[VaMilBill]

2 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

It’s not 100% on Dorsey. This is a tired and lazy take. Execution is terrible all over the place. Oline. Dline. QB. Wrs. Lots of blame it’s not one persons fault here. 

That’s fair. But at the same time, whose responsibility is it to have the offense prepared? Dorsey. 
 

I don’t know if it’s Ken being too chill with the players and not demanding accountability or what. But this offense shouldn’t be performing like this and ultimately it comes down to

Ken and McD. 

[sunshynman]

2 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

It’s not 100% on Dorsey. This is a tired and lazy take. Execution is terrible all over the place. Oline. Dline. QB. Wrs. Lots of blame it’s not one persons fault here. 

I'd go 50/50 right now. Doresy needs to be better. Execution must get better! The biggest problem on the O is between Allen's ears. But that is the coach's fault for trying to force him to be a strictly pocket passer!

[Chaos]

https://x.com/_jacosta/status/1716897405269143835?s=20

 

So much better than "I don't have the answers".  They may not succeed, but at least someone is throwing down the gauntlet. 

[dorquemada]

I need to win the lottery this week

 

The Bills absolutely needed to win the last 3 games, full stop.  Losing 2 of them puts them in a position unlikely to recover given the schedule, also given the soft nature of the guys still standing.  If they lose to Tampa Thursday, especially if they turn in another half-hearted effort, we're going to see a whole lotta running for the bus the rest of the year

[Nephilim17]

Very refreshing and surprising.

1. It dispels the old cliched response that players are only focused on one game at a time and don't look ahead on the schedule.
2. It also sets up some very high expectations that, if they are not met, will result in tough questions and answers
3. It dispels the meaningless myth that they need to win every game. That is so abstract that it actually means nothing. There is room for error, and Von acknowledges that, but he's also acknowledging that the margin for error is almost razor thin.

Very good to hear. This should be entertaining, at the very least, no matter which way it plays out.

[strive_for_five_guy]

Let’s start w going 1-0 after this Thursday

[Ramza86]

After Thursday.....we just have to win the next 6.

[Success]

I mean, it would be nice.  I don't think they NEED to, however.  If they win 6 out of the next 7, there is a pretty good chance that they're at least tied for best record in the league at that point.

 

But I like the sentiment.

 

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

So he finally found out what their record is. 

Also. The team that owes to Zach Wilson and Mac jones is going to beat Joe burrow and Patrick Mahomes led teams? Ok Go Bills!

Edited October 24, 2023 by Goin Breakdown

[26TrapDraw]

Players only Memorandum:

agenda for tomorrow’s meeting:

 

Blue Cheese or Ranch ?

[26TrapDraw]

1 hour ago, sunshynman said:

I'd go 50/50 right now. Doresy needs to be better. Execution must get better! The biggest problem on the O is between Allen's ears. But that is the coach's fault for trying to force him to be a strictly pocket passer!

I think Bean and McD are so worried about Josh getting hurt that they’ve completely neutered what makes Josh Josh. It’s growing pains for sure. Just hoping they can tweak this team in the next season or two to make a real run. It won’t be this year. This years team is done.

32 minutes ago, Chaos said:

https://x.com/_jacosta/status/1716897405269143835?s=20

 

So much better than "I don't have the answers".  They may not succeed, but at least someone is throwing down the gauntlet. 

If they win 6 of the next 7 they belong in the playoffs so it will all work out like it’s supposed to.

[Chaos]

37 minutes ago, Chaos said:

https://x.com/_jacosta/status/1716897405269143835?s=20

 

So much better than "I don't have the answers".  They may not succeed, but at least someone is throwing down the gauntlet. 

Just so people know, this had nothing to do with an alleged player meeting.  Something he said to WGRZ. Not sure why this completely different topic was merged into a speculation thead.

[uninja]

4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

So he finally found out what their record is. 

Also. The team that owes to Zach Wilson and Mac jones is going to beat Joe burrow and Patrick Mahomes led teams? Ok Go Bills!

 

I mean last year they lost to Zach Wilson and beat Patrick Mahomes, the year before that they lost to Mac Jones but beat Patrick Mahomes. Division games have an element of wtf to them some years, see the Dolphins & Jets last year.

 

We'll see what happens, they're not dead yet but man the last couple of games have looked like a struggle.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

It’s not 100% on Dorsey. This is a tired and lazy take. Execution is terrible all over the place. Oline. Dline. QB. Wrs. Lots of blame it’s not one persons fault here. 

If the whole offense can’t execute, that’s on the guy who’s in charge of coordinating the offense. Mental mistakes and poor execution is a tell tale sign of a poor coach. 

[frostbitmic]

Arrrrrrrgh it's a mutiny I tell ya ... They're going to make McClapton Bligh walk the plank.

[3rdand12]

17 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Arrrrrrrgh it's a mutiny I tell ya ... They're going to make McClapton Bligh walk the plank.

Aaarrghh !

 Indeed

[bobobonators]

On 10/23/2023 at 1:19 PM, That's No Moon said:

Von has no business calling that meeting right now. Players who contribute should. A contract doesn't make you a leader and he sucks on the field right now 

He’s coming off a major injury. Geeze dude

[billsfan89]

5 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

He’s coming off a major injury. Geeze dude

 

Von has two SB rings including a SB MVP, he also was a key contributor to the 2021 SB title most recently. That type of resume commands respect, and yeah the guy is coming off a major injury playing limited snaps give him some time. 

[Goin Breakdown]

2 hours ago, uninja said:

 

I mean last year they lost to Zach Wilson and beat Patrick Mahomes, the year before that they lost to Mac Jones but beat Patrick Mahomes. Division games have an element of wtf to them some years, see the Dolphins & Jets last year.

 

We'll see what happens, they're not dead yet but man the last couple of games have looked like a struggle.

The "wtf element" is strong with this team. I know it's kind of simple to say, but I think this team plays down to their competition at times. Injuries aside. 

[Livinginthepast]

Im actually glad to hear this. McD and the coaches need to have their feet to the fire when the team isn't ready or the schemes suck. Time for everybody, coaches and players on the Bills to take a look in the mirror and improve. They easily could have won every single game this year and have blown it.

[ProcessTruster]

whatever.   go get a W on Thursday.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

[Pete]

 

Beane better be making moves.  I know he’s trying.  Beane looks bad- a 6th for 5 time captain Safety Kevin Byard.  LB- DT-CB-TE please 

[Scott7975]

Did a news crew set up cameras to see if Diggs came in so they can tell if he was on board or wants out of Buffalo?

[strive_for_five_guy]

8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Did a news crew set up cameras to see if Diggs came in so they can tell if he was on board or wants out of Buffalo?

Yes, we have footage of Josh’s actual speech:

 

 

 

 

[Mynamemike]

10 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Yes, we have footage of Josh’s actual speech:

 

 

 

 

***** Kilmer!  

[PBF81]

57 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

whatever.   go get a W on Thursday.  

 

It's going to be a very interesting game.  

 

For some idiotic reason, part of me is still expecting the same decisive win that I figured was coming over the past two weeks.  

 

I'm so conflicted.  

 

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Best player on D out in Milano and best DB out in White.  Couldn't beat Mahomes and Burrow with them, and certainly not beating elite teams without them.

[CoudyBills]

10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

And that would be?

The season is over, they never work.

[Little Dog]

On 10/23/2023 at 2:19 PM, That's No Moon said:

Von has no business calling that meeting right now. Players who contribute should. A contract doesn't make you a leader and he sucks on the field right now 

It says Josh and Von called the players meeting, how do know it wasn’t Josh who prompted Von to get the defensive players while Josh got the offensive player to get this meet started .

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Little Dog said:

It says Josh and Von called the players meeting, how do know it wasn’t Josh who prompted Von to get the defensive players while Josh got the offensive player to get this meet started .

Honestly, I don't care. People are going to dislike what I said, that's fine.  The next time you get called out at the office by someone who is a non-contributor let me know how motivating you find that.

 

Besides, if they needed a meeting to get themselves together at this point there are much bigger problems.

[Little Dog]

4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Honestly, I don't care. People are going to dislike what I said, that's fine.  The next time you get called out at the office by someone who is a non-contributor let me know how motivating you find that.

 

Besides, if they needed a meeting to get themselves together at this point there are much bigger problems.

Like you know what it’s like in a locker room and what the players are talking about 

1 minute ago, Little Dog said:

Like you know what it’s like in a locker room and what the players are talking about 

And how do you know if anyone is getting called out