CSBill Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 A fair analysis: Buffalo Bills (Over/Under 10.5): Over with 13 projected wins Buffalo won 13 games last year but outscored its opponents by a league-high 10.6 points per game. The Bills' three losses came by a combined eight points. On paper, they look just as strong. Still, the schedule's tough in a strong division. All teams: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083125-overunder-win-predictions-for-every-nfl-team-in-2023?utm_medium=email&lid=uoz16sgcp8qw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 wins will be tough. Road games at KC, CIN, and PHIL. Then you have 4 combined games against MIA and NYJ. DAL won't be easy either. Then factor in the Bills always seem to stub their toe against a team they should beat at least once a year. I would say 10-12 wins is the floor/ceiling for the Bills. If they can win 13 or more, I would be thrilled with that given how tough the schedule is. 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Gregg said: 13 wins will be tough. Road games at KC, CIN, and PHIL. Then you have 4 combined games against MIA and NYJ. DAL won't be easy either. Then factor in the Bills always seem to stub their toe against a team they should beat at least once a year. I would say 10-12 wins is the floor/ceiling for the Bills. If they can win 13 or more, I would be thrilled with that given how tough the schedule is. It's going to be interesting. The Chiefs, Eagles and Bengals are pretty much the consensus choice for the top three teams in the league, and Buffalo plays all three on their home turf. Buffalo will learn during the season whether or not it has a chance to win the Super Bowl or not. Beat one or two of those teams during the season, and we have ample reason for optimism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I'd take 11 wins going into the post season healthy, strong and with momentum than 13 wins limping, injured and shrouded in tragedy. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 If Saleh only gets 1 more win with Rodgers than he did with last year's QB crew, he needs to be transferred right to the USFL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If Saleh only gets 1 more win with Rodgers than he did with last year's QB crew, he needs to be transferred right to the USFL. I want Rodgers and the Jets to be like Wilson and the Broncos were last year. 6 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: It's going to be interesting. The Chiefs, Eagles and Bengals are pretty much the consensus choice for the top three teams in the league, and Buffalo plays all three on their home turf. Buffalo will learn during the season whether or not it has a chance to win the Super Bowl or not. Beat one or two of those teams during the season, and we have ample reason for optimism. They seem to be but Vegas says it’s the eagles, chiefs and bills. They’ve been saying it the entire offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: They seem to be but Vegas says it’s the eagles, chiefs and bills. They’ve been saying it the entire offseason It would be nice if the Chargers and Ravens can win their divisions and knock the Chiefs and Bengals to WC status. Although it didn't help last year, I want any playoff game with Bengals or Chiefs in OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gregg said: According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. Greeny picked the Jets......I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked. Can't wait to hear him whine again when they fail to succeed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gregg said: It would be nice if the Chargers and Ravens can win their divisions and knock the Chiefs and Bengals to WC status. Although it didn't help last year, I want any playoff game with Bengals or Chiefs in OP. I want any game vs either team to be played in nice weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: I want any game vs either team to be played in nice weather. Good point. The potential is there for the Bills to play many home games in bad weather especially late in the season. Yet the Bills have a team that isn't built for bad weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: If Saleh only gets 1 more win with Rodgers than he did with last year's QB crew, he needs to be transferred right to the USFL. I think this is more likely than not. He has not impressed me as a leader. I guess we will see now that QB excuse has been taken away, but implosion of the Jets at the first sign of trouble would not at all surprise me. 5 hours ago, CSBill said: A fair analysis: Buffalo Bills (Over/Under 10.5): Over with 13 projected wins Buffalo won 13 games last year but outscored its opponents by a league-high 10.6 points per game. The Bills' three losses came by a combined eight points. On paper, they look just as strong. Still, the schedule's tough in a strong division. All teams: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083125-overunder-win-predictions-for-every-nfl-team-in-2023?utm_medium=email&lid=uoz16sgcp8qw The Bills are still the class of the division until somebody proves otherwise. 13 wins is a realistic target. 11 or 12 would not shock me, nor will it cost them the division in my opinion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I had a dream a few days ago that the Bills/Jets opener ended in a 40-40 tie. As much as a tie would not be good for the division race, that would be a heck of a game to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 17-0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Can't see the Jets with just 8 wins. The meltdown in Jersey would be epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 parts to this: 1- what's it take to win the East? Sweeping the east for any team isn't happening. Going 2-0 against anyone but the Pats is unlikely. 3-3 in the division is comfortable to bet 2- how many wins will it take to win the East? Id guess 12 3- easier schedule? Miami. The defense can stop the pass, the front 5 are a weakness. If the offense can keep Tua alive they can easily win the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, boyst said: 3 parts to this: 1- what's it take to win the East? Sweeping the east for any team isn't happening. Going 2-0 against anyone but the Pats is unlikely. 3-3 in the division is comfortable to bet 2- how many wins will it take to win the East? Id guess 12 3- easier schedule? Miami. The defense can stop the pass, the front 5 are a weakness. If the offense can keep Tua alive they can easily win the East. I doubt they can keep him healthy. Two confirmed concussions last year (CIN and GB) and he probably suffered one in the first Bills game bringing the total to 3. Then he had that hip injury at Alabama but it's the concussions that will shorten his career. If he suffers one more this year, then he would be smart to retire. It's not worth putting your health at risk especially since he is a young man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Good point. The potential is there for the Bills to play many home games in bad weather especially late in the season. Yet the Bills have a team that isn't built for bad weather. Adding a pair of power backs, a first round TE, an extra 1-tech, and a bear of a guard leads me to believe they recognized that as an issue. We’ll see if it works out the way everyone hopes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Keep clicking on those links You can learn alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gregg said: According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. And at the production meeting before the show they discussed nobody picking the Bills so it would generate "interest" (outrage). Greeny even said be prepared this will be screenshotted on Twitter and Bills Mafia will go crazy. These shows have become a joke - the selections the 'experts' make are mostly intended to create a stir Edited July 19, 2023 by stevewin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Gregg said: 13 wins will be tough. Road games at KC, CIN, and PHIL. Then you have 4 combined games against MIA and NYJ. DAL won't be easy either. Then factor in the Bills always seem to stub their toe against a team they should beat at least once a year. I would say 10-12 wins is the floor/ceiling for the Bills. If they can win 13 or more, I would be thrilled with that given how tough the schedule is. I'll be very surprised if we win 13. Not sure how they have the Jets at 8 though. There's so much unknown about that situation at the moment. I guess these people have to write about something, even when there's nothing to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: 3 parts to this: 1- what's it take to win the East? Sweeping the east for any team isn't happening. Going 2-0 against anyone but the Pats is unlikely. 3-3 in the division is comfortable to bet 2- how many wins will it take to win the East? Id guess 12 3- easier schedule? Miami. The defense can stop the pass, the front 5 are a weakness. If the offense can keep Tua alive they can easily win the East. I don't give Miami more than an outside shot of winning the East. Miami to win fewer games than last year is a safe bet IMO. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I'd take 11 wins going into the post season healthy, strong and with momentum than 13 wins limping, injured and shrouded in tragedy. Sheeeet, I'll take 9 or 10 with a Wild Card and all road playoff games if it means being fresh for the playoffs and winning the SB. It's ALL going to come down to McD's management of the D, Dorsey, Allen's elbow, and the avoidance of Allen or Milano getting injured. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's concerned about the top five or six guys on our coaching staff all being retread coaches from when McD was in Carolina. I mean honestly, it's as if he's quietly brought that coaching staff here. It's not as if those teams overachieved or did anything special. 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I'd take 11 wins going into the post season healthy, strong and with momentum than 13 wins limping, injured and shrouded in tragedy. Sheeeet, I'll take 9 or 10 with a Wild Card and all road playoff games if it means being fresh for the playoffs and winning the SB. It's ALL going to come down to McD's management of the D, Dorsey, Allen's elbow, and the avoidance of Allen or Milano getting injured. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's concerned about the top five or six guys on our coaching staff all being retread coaches from when McD was in Carolina. I mean honestly, it's as if he's quietly brought that coaching staff here. It's not as if those teams overachieved or did anything special. I can see us being the best offense, or close to it, of all-time and for sure in Bills' franchise history, or I can see us being 5th or 6th too. There are a whole lot of mystery balls up in the air entering this season. Gotta hope for the best. GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Sheeeet, I'll take 9 or 10 with a Wild Card and all road playoff games if it means being fresh for the playoffs and winning the SB. Oh I definitely agree but I still want to win the division and I can the Jets and Miami winning 9-11 games if things go right for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, CSBill said: A fair analysis: Buffalo Bills (Over/Under 10.5): Over with 13 projected wins Buffalo won 13 games last year but outscored its opponents by a league-high 10.6 points per game. The Bills' three losses came by a combined eight points. On paper, they look just as strong. Still, the schedule's tough in a strong division. All teams: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083125-overunder-win-predictions-for-every-nfl-team-in-2023?utm_medium=email&lid=uoz16sgcp8qw I’m really surprised BR took a good look at our roster and really thought about this…. They’re right, the Bills are loaded and ready to feast upon fish, jets and pats…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Gregg said: Good point. The potential is there for the Bills to play many home games in bad weather especially late in the season. Yet the Bills have a team that isn't built for bad weather. Last year i guess, even though we were 14-4, and 17 of those games we were a play away from the W. Played a few in bad weather. Regardless, we made huge improvements in our overall RB depth and interior OL run blocking. Plus added a potential superstar TE to go along with a top 10 TE. Upgraded WR, only postitions we didn't upgrade on O are LT, C and QB.. Even RT with Shell is at least an upgrade depth wise and he could very well take over for Brown. We have way more talent and versatility on O. 2 hours ago, stevewin said: And at the production meeting before the show they discussed nobody picking the Bills so it would generate "interest" (outrage). Greeny even said be prepared this will be screenshotted on Twitter and Bills Mafia will go crazy. These shows have become a joke - the selections the 'experts' make are mostly intended to create a stir Absolutely. They're unwatchable to me. Only time i turn on ESPN is to watch live sports. I used to watch ESPN all day..For the last 5 or so years i just can't do it. Explains all the layoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I project 12 wins Less injuries Less drama What happens in the playoffs is anyone's guess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I don't give Miami more than an outside shot of winning the East. Miami to win fewer games than last year is a safe bet IMO. I keep wanting to think this but can't see where they regressed. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Gregg said: According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. I know I'm in the minority here but I really don't care about the division. Make the playoffs and be playing your best football with a reasonably healthy roster and this team can win anywhere against anyone. The only thing I see as a huge bonus is the #1 seed because of the week off and 1 less game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I have thought all along the jets will come in last in the East but obviously time will tell. Edited July 20, 2023 by Brianmoorman4jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Gregg said: According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. What a waste of bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Let’s be real: the chance Tua & Rodgers plays 13 or more games is 50%. I like our odds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Gregg said: According to these "experts' we aren't even winning the division. A lot of people are convinced that Saleh and McDaniel are better HC's than McDermott. This is based in large part on how much the Bill have struggled to beat those teams with obviously inferior rosters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 hours ago, CSBill said: A fair analysis: Buffalo Bills (Over/Under 10.5): Over with 13 projected wins Buffalo won 13 games last year but outscored its opponents by a league-high 10.6 points per game. The Bills' three losses came by a combined eight points. On paper, they look just as strong. Still, the schedule's tough in a strong division. All teams: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083125-overunder-win-predictions-for-every-nfl-team-in-2023?utm_medium=email&lid=uoz16sgcp8qw I sure hope they are right. I was hoping for 11 wins looking at the schedule. It's brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: A lot of people are convinced that Saleh and McDaniel are better HC's than McDermott. This is based in large part on how much the Bill have struggled to beat those teams with obviously inferior rosters. Four losses in total with two out of the four within the division doesn't make either of them better... and neither swept us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Ugh...BR is garbage. Wait, they said 13 wins? BR knows their stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I think 13 wins is way too optimistic. Tough division games and those brutal away games vs the top teams in the league. I think they win 10 games and make the playoffs. I don't see a reasonable path to 13 wins. However, McD knows how to win regular season games. Could be another great regular season only to lose early on in the playoffs. Nevertheless, it will be seen as a successful season. I'd be happy with that. How about you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 13?! Take the under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 is that gonna be a number that triggers us? for a long time to come? And media wouldnt exploit that for clicks, so nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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