Your Bills-related unpopular opinion

[Einstein]

54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I agree there have been times when the balance has gone too far like "you are talking about Stefon Diggs and there is already a thread about Diggs so it must be merged" when, for example, one might be about his social media activity and another is about his contract. Not saying that has happened but just as an example. 

 

Yeah this was my main point. Agreed.

[Chicken Boo]

The offensive philosophy of this team needs to change. 

 

The Bills won't win anything solely on the arm of Josh Allen.  

[corta765]

17 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

The offensive philosophy of this team needs to change. 

 

The Bills won't win anything solely on the arm of Josh Allen.  

 

Lol I don't think that is remotely controversial more logical if anything

[frostbitmic]

Weird ... My unpopular opinion on a Bills message board is that the Bills will have a very good team in 2023.

[corta765]

43 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Weird ... My unpopular opinion on a Bills message board is that the Bills will have a very good team in 2023.

 

I would say expectations last year were so high it invited a very negative outlook. 2023 many people have the opposite view so watch it be a more positive outcome because sports lol

[Einstein's Dog]

48 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Weird ... My unpopular opinion on a Bills message board is that the Bills will have a very good team in 2023.

I hear ya.  I think because of a vocal minority, the actual prevailing opinions get overshadowed.  Along those lines, mine are:

 

1.  Beane is one of the top GMs in the league.

2.  McD is one of the top coaches in the league

3.  The best way to win a SuperBowl is to be one of the superbowl favorites, and do it for multiple years.

[Mikie2times]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That analogy only works if we all have to here all 50 conversations. The reason for thread merging is seeing the same topics started as new threads over and over is laborious and actually buries new and interesting content. 

 

I agree there have been times when the balance has gone too far like "you are talking about Stefon Diggs and there is already a thread about Diggs so it must be merged" when, for example, one might be about his social media activity and another is about his contract. Not saying that has happened but just as an example. 

 

But we don't need (to give a recent example) multiple threads about how the defense might change now that McDermott is calling it rather than Frazier. That should all be one thread. Just because one person thinks it might mean more 4-3 base and another thinks it might mean more blitzing does not justify two topics.

It's gotten excessive. We have like 4 threads constantly at the top with 50+ pages. Do you think all of the pages are about Lamar wanting guaranteed money? That in itself is a specific topic. Just like Lamar being his own agent and how people feel about that is a specific topic. But right now if I say Lamar likes puppies, it will be merged into page 987 of the Lamar wants a guaranteed money topic. If you really want it to be, everything is related. I agree we need a middle ground. This isn't it. This is also the last I will say of it as I'm just a guest and I still enjoy coming here.

[78thealltimegreat]

Josh Allen throws the ball too much and should just be a 25-30 throw guy 

[Alphadawg7]

On 3/25/2023 at 8:32 AM, GunnerBill said:

I think the two Bills opinions I have that are unpopular in terms of this forum as it has been recently would be: 

 

1. Ed Oliver is one of our top most inconsistent defensive players.

 

2. Josh Allen The offense didn't play well enough in the post season this past January. 

 

Fixed  

 

I want to love Ed Oliver, but he vanishes too easily.  There are games where he plays like a beast, then there are games you wouldn't even know he played.  My biggest issue with Oliver is that he is too dependent on the others around him IMHO to consistently impact the game.  And I also feel pretty confident that Beane won't pay what he will likely get in FA, so I don't expect him here past next year.

 

As far as the Josh Allen comment, don't disagree that Allen didn't play well enough, but its bigger than Allen.  The OL was atrocious, our WR's were not doing enough, and Dorsey was really out classed in the postseason.  So, I think saying Allen didn't play well enough lacks the context that impacted Allens play, and that was the whole offense, including coaching, was not doing enough to help Josh either.  

[Alphadawg7]

On 3/25/2023 at 8:04 AM, QB Bills said:

A few of mine:

 

James Cook is a below average RB and is a significant step down from Motor.

 

The biggest position of need on the team is the d-line and they should use their first round pick on a lineman (again).

 

Ken Dorsey is a better playcaller than Brian Daboll. But Daboll knew how to coach Allen better.

 

The Bills will never have a head coaching advantage in a playoff game under this regime.

 

Here is mine:

 

Dorsey was not very good last year and any OC we could have hired off the street could have accomplished a similar offensive finish inside the top 5.  He was really bad with his redzone play calling, he struggled to involve the talent on the roster all season (like Knox, Cook, Hines, and Shakir), his style was figured out and struggled to make adjustments, and the offense was often predictable and lacked creativity too often.  

 

We were a top 5 offense last year because we have Josh Allen, not because Dorsey did anything special.  Can Dorsey keep growing as an OC, of course, but he has a lot to work on this offseason.

 

The good news...Beane has had a sneaky good off season in regards to the offense already before the draft has even come.  So that should give Dorsey a lot more to work with this year.  

Edited April 4, 2023 by Alphadawg7

[harmonkillebrew]

I like Spencer Brown

[Chaos]

On 4/1/2023 at 2:19 AM, Airseven said:

At some point, Bills fans should admit the :13 seconds game isn’t representative of Allen. Last year’s playoffs were a more accurate reflection of his erratic inconsistencies. OL is bad, but Allen compounds the problems and deserves blame of his own.

My unpopular opinion.  Airseven doesn't have the first clue about anything football related.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Jim Kelly was overrated. A guy like Marino or Elway would’ve won at least 3 rings w/ that roster.

 

McDermott is a great coach (which isn’t unpopular amongst non-Bills fans.) Kept this team competitive every single years he’s been here. 
 

Diggs/Davis combo is one of the best in the league. The statistics actually back this up. 
 

 

[Buffalo716]

On 4/3/2023 at 7:40 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

Josh Allen throws the ball too much and should just be a 25-30 throw guy 

25 attempts would literally put him at 18th for attempts 

 

You do not take the ball out of a superstars hand that much

 

Some games he might not need to throw 30 times but others he will

[Jay_Fixit]

Marv Levy was responsible for the first Super Bowl loss. 

 

Abysmal coaching performance.

 

In fact, he was a very overrated coach period.

[BillMafia716ix]

Singletary is better than James Cook. We didn’t get better at RB.

[90sBills]

My very unpopular opinion is that Bills are not behind Cincy! Emotional exhaustion had more to do with the playoff loss than matchups! Allen and the Bills will get their redemption against Cincy next season!

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Josh Allen is a big part of the problem. He has to start throwing to the RB's and TE's more if the Bills are going to make it back to the Super Bowl. The blame does not all go onto Dorsey. 

[iinii]

On 3/26/2023 at 8:43 AM, Peace Frog said:

Not enough 'Williams' on the team.

There used to be

[C.Biscuit97]

The Bills win at least 3 SBs with Marino.

 

Aaron Schobel is one of the most underrated Bills in history. 
 

Lee Evans would be Marvin Harrison with Josh Allen.

 

I still believe in Sammy Watkins and CJ Spiller. 
 

EJ Manuel was ruined by Doug Marrone and Nate Hackett. 
 

we are going to miss Frazier and Edmunds more than some fans realize. 

[Just in Atlanta]

Even the best fans -- us -- can't evaluate college talent accurately at all. 

I like to go to the Josh Allen draft thread from time to time. 

The very first reaction was "lol". Another: "Rosen was right there". 
 

 

[2003Contenders]

Dick Jauron was somewhat underrated as the Bills head coach from 2006-2009.

 

Yes, he had his shortcomings and could never get past Brady/BB and the Patriots. But...

 

1. During his tenure, the Bills roster was woeful in the talent department.

2. Managed to get to 7-9 with JP Losman at QB -- and the Bills were in the playoff hunt until the final week of the season.

3. 2007 team was injury riddled with a then record # of guys on IR. Still went with 7-9 with Losman and Edwards at QB.

4. Got off to a hot 4-0 start before Edwards got his his brain scrambled in Arizona. Edwards (and the team) never psychologically recovered.

 

Again, not suggesting he was a great coach (still shudder at "It's hard to win in the NFL") -- just that he did a much better job of playing the hand he was dealt than many remember.

[corta765]

21 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

Dick Jauron was somewhat underrated as the Bills head coach from 2006-2009.

 

So I don't know if I would say he was underrated, but with a little more luck in a few very tight games the drought probably starts after 06 or 07. I think he was an average couch and the bounces really went against him as a coach. Jauron to me was a coach who the league started passing by at this point, for the early 2000s and earlier he was fine for how the league played its games. He was about ball control, playing safe, running the ball, and limiting mistakes to give yourself a chance. The problem was by 06-07 the league was morphing into an aerial show that rewarded aggression not conservativeness. Plus throw in the NE factor that you had perhaps the best team in the league yearly to contend with it almost always left you at an 0-2 starting point.

 

06- AFC Wildcard was taken by the 9-7 Chiefs. The Bills went 7-9 with one score losses to at NE, NYJ, at DET, at IND, SD, and TEN. Week 17 at BAL meant nothing so hard to know what happens if it matters, but literally a bounce or two makes that week different with BUF 8-7 or even 9-6. It isn't a stretch to say they were close and as we saw in 2017 it doesn't take much to alter everything.

07- AFC Wildcard was 10-6 that year by the Titans. The Bills actually were 7-6 with 3 weeks to go and again had four one score losses including the infamous DEN and DAL choke jobs. Same scenario as 06' week 17 was a nothing game at PHI so with a bounce or two again (or DEN and DAL missed FGs) BUF might be playing for something.

08- Same old story better start with crappier finish and again three tight losses to CLE, at NYJ, and SF that alter trajectory of things. I have always though had the Bills beat CLE on the last second FG they would've been alright, instead I think it broke them mentally and pressure wise as they had no wiggle room.

 

Regardless even if Jauron goes 10-6 in 07' for insistence to make the playoffs they are one and done and we end up in a similar place. The only change might have been Buffalo is picking in the draft top 3 with Luck and RG3 instead of the year prior with Cam.

[Drew21PA]

On 3/25/2023 at 11:04 AM, QB Bills said:

A few of mine:

 

James Cook is a below average RB and is a significant step down from Motor.

 

The biggest position of need on the team is the d-line and they should use their first round pick on a lineman (again).

 

Ken Dorsey is a better playcaller than Brian Daboll. But Daboll knew how to coach Allen better.

 

The Bills will never have a head coaching advantage in a playoff game under this regime.

Only agree with number 2

 

giving 4 one more year

[Nihilarian]

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

[Drew21PA]

Here

 

unpopular opinion is Gabe Davis just had an off year and he will be alright next year.

 

edmunds was the right call to let walk - poyer DEFINITELY needed to come back

 

Damar Hamlin should just retire  has such an amazing opportunity to keep going on what he’s been doing since he was injured - I mean he just met the president which is pretty huge 

 

gonna get blasted for this

i think with more run attempts our running backs would have been alright.  We seemed to have gotten in numerous grooves then OC said screw it back to the passes

 

 

one example was when Josh threw the stupid pick against the dolphins - cook just ran back to back 15 yard runs and we were in solid position - same with Green Bay game he got cook going then threw a puck at the feet of Alexander in their red zone 

[Billl]

Beane got lucky in the 2018 draft.  If Allen had been taken instead of Mayfield or Darnold, Beane would be out of a job by now.  While he deserves credit for picking the right Josh, that pick shouldn’t be taken into account when evaluating him going forward given the fact that he’ll probably never be in a situation to draft a QB with a top 10 pick again.

[stuvian]

This team is built like the pre-Terrell Davis, John Elway era Broncos. A great QB supported by a back 7 D who can't tackle, an OL who can't run block and RBs that can't convert on short yardage. Everything is down to Allen and Diggs. 

 

Built for a dome yet playing outside in winter. D-oh

[Cusefan66214]

The Chiefs will win every super bowl until I die

 

 

[GunnerBill]

12 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

 

Scouting doesn't work that way. You don't have an "offensive line scout" and a "running back scout". The scouts specialise by geographical area not by position. 

[BillsFanForever19]

13 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

Damar Hamlin should just retire  has such an amazing opportunity to keep going on what he’s been doing since he was injured - I mean he just met the president which is pretty huge 

 

Even if he doesn't play this season, he needs to be on the team. You don't become a vested NFL player eligible for benefits and a pension until you have 3 years in the league. He's only had 2. He deserves at least that.

[LabattBlue]

17 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Even the best fans -- us -- can't evaluate college talent accurately at all. 

^^^ This.  👍🏻

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Scouting doesn't work that way. You don't have an "offensive line scout" and a "running back scout". The scouts specialise by geographical area not by position. 

Bottom line:  The scouts are probably better at rating regional breweries than collegiate players by position.

🤔

It's observations like mine that explain why I politely declined to participate in Virgil's draft. 😇

*
EDIT: Upon further reflection, and based upon how some draft picks have 'panned out', it is entirely possible the scouts are way more involved in the beer than the players being rated. 

Edited April 7, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Shemp]

Playoff and Super Bowl games are all fixed.

 

Josh has "squirrel head."

Edited April 7, 2023 by Blah Blah

[Nitro]

21 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

 OG is viewed as least valuable in drafting by the team.  Other organizations have similar POV.  Singletary was a rock solid player and matched where he was drafted.  Hindsight is 20/20 when drafting.  

[Punching Bag]

Teams can have great seasons even if not one seed.

[Nineforty]

the talent on the Bills in 2022 was enough to win a super bowl. 

[The Jokeman]

The Bills will win a Super Bowl within plus or minus 5 years of the new stadium opening. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

18 hours ago, stuvian said:

This team is built like the pre-Terrell Davis, John Elway era Broncos. A great QB supported by a back 7 D who can't tackle, an OL who can't run block and RBs that can't convert on short yardage. Everything is down to Allen and Diggs. 

 

Built for a dome yet playing outside in winter. D-oh

Now that you mention it, I have often felt there wasn't a three touchdown lead safe against the Elway Broncos, even early in the fourth quarter.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Nineforty said:

the talent on the Bills in 2022 was enough to win a super bowl. 

... When healthy