Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) When things are really good I'll listen to a lot, search out articles and watch the national media shows. It seems though with all the negativity surrounding an 8 game winning streak that is no longer the case.😉😝😆 But listening to my favourite podcast and seeing 1-2 articles I need to stop as my blood is boiling listening to all the pro Burrow & Cincy talk and how down some are about Allen's erratic play and so much put on the Dolphins game. Of course Burrow's #'s the last two weeks aren't discussed & the pick 6 vs. NE in a game they could've lost too. Add to that, many are gushing over Cincy and the first 10 minutes January 2 (now if Buff scored a TD and not a fg things may have been a little different). Used to spend all Sunday immersed in pre-games and other things, but haven't the last decade. Interesting this weekend, that not just the Buffalo/Cincy game, but the other three too all being talked about using "Recency Bias". Dallas (and Dak) looked great against a lousy fraud in TB. The Giants moved up and down against one of the worst "D's" in football and a team everyone was predicting the clock would strike midnight soon. Finally look at the upstart Jags and what they did. Sunday 3:00 can't come soon enough to get it started (and then get it over with). Edited January 20, 2023 by Billsfan1972 8 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 This is part of the reason the house always wins. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I won't get upset about sports opinions. I want to learn from people I trust, and I don't need everyone to fawn over my favorite teams. The good thing is the outcome of the game tends to resolve these issues, and perhaps those folks will be correct. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday 8 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: When things are really good I'll listen to a lot, search out articles and watch the national media shows. It seems though with all the negativity surrounding an 8 game winning streak that is no longer the case.😉😝😆 But listening to my favourite podcast and seeing 1-2 articles I need to stop as my blood is boiling listening to all the pro Burrow & Cincy talk and how down some are about Allen's erratic play and so much put on the Dolphins game. You see a lot of the sentiments on this board also, so why be outraged about the national press? I re-watched Q4 of the Dolphins game and was quite impressed about how we played on O, D and coaching (key timeout). Let it play itself out 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday You are basing your concern on the first quarter of that game? There were stats posted which show that our D improves significantly after Q1. Your later part is more reasoned and thats what I am expecting on Sunday also. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) just more motivation for Josh to prove them wrong. i think he comes out as playoff Josh from last year-focused, taking what they are giving, driven The Terminator Edited January 20, 2023 by Robert Paulson 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday I mean, what do you expect Frazier to do, disclose his game plan? No one can go back and watch except teams, or even look at a box score, but the Bengals got huge yards on a ticky-tack DPI on Tre White. The Bills moved right down to the Bengals red zone and settled for 3 after a missed pass to a wide open Beasley - the Bengals didn't stop us either, without the ticky tack DPI. It's very typical this season that teams move the ball on us the first couple drives, then Frazier adjusts. Media or no, of course it's going to be a tough game against a very good team and we have to prove it on Sunday Edited January 20, 2023 by Beck Water 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: You see a lot of the sentiments on this board also, so why be outraged about the national press? I re-watched Q4 of the Dolphins game and was quite impressed about how we played on O, D and coaching (key timeout). Let it play itself out You are basing your concern on the first quarter of that game? There were stats posted which show that our D improves significantly after Q1. Your later part is more reasoned and thats what I am expecting on Sunday also. Here is different and we can debate it. The National Press are not watching 16 games a week in their entirety and analyzing the minutiae or knowing everything that went on. Like me who didn't watch the last two Cincy games vs. Baltimore where they were far from dominating at home and Burrow held to under 220 yards passing can say definitively that Burrow is not too good as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I can’t imagine getting mad about stuff like this. They are both too 5 qbs and seem like great dudes. The media’s job is to build a storyline. I would rather have Allen because he brings more to the talent with his running. But Burrow is pretty great himself. It’s going to be a great game. 3 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday The Bengals had the early momentum against the Pats and Ravens too. The Bills had the early momentum against the Dolphins last week. The Chargers had the early momentum against the Jags. 8 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday Yup, this is it. We've seen this from McDermott and Frazier before. They don't change anything. It looked obvious to me where the Bengals wanted to go that night. But our struggles with Kelce over the years, Jefferson this season, have shown me this staff will not employ a true double team. I expect a soft zone Sunday, and would be surprised if the Bills start Elam over Jackson. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said: just more motivation for Josh to prove them wrong. i think he comes out as playoff Josh from last year-focused, taking what their given, driven The Terminator that would be a nice welcome development for sure, that all of us would love to see & have been hoping for all year. No better time than this Sunday. Dorsey can help try to make this happen as well of course by designing some early plays that help get Josh into a rhythm & not having to play behind on down & distance. Something that i havent seen as much of this 2nd half of the season that i'd like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: This is part of the reason the house always wins. This is not true, I lose almost every week 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I really don't get you guys getting upset about other's opinions. They're supposed to cause you to get upset and you let them 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Need to run cover two with tight coverage at the line vs the receivers and hope the DL can be disruptive in the game. If not, we're in trouble! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Who cares, talk is cheap! Here's the thing, Burrow's issues, 3 OL-men out, are not correctable except by backups. That backup Carman got his ass handed to him last week, I mean it was pathetic. Allen's "issues" on the other hand, are correctable. Remember, we've had a pretty horrific month-plus with Damar, storms, relocation of a home game. It finally feels as if we've settled back in. Allen's incredibly bright. IMO he had TOs because we were up and he wanted to end the game and sit in the 2nd half and let Keenum play a little. I could be off, but the point is that Allen could have been more conservative. He seems to know when to be and when not to be. At the end of the day the Bengals are in trouble if they field the same OL as they did last week. We on the other hand will be fine. Allen's not going to be so carefree this week. (Notice I didn't say careless) 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. And we were having our way with them on offense - had that ball to Bease not been a bit off the mark that game would have been tied when the Hamlin incident happened. But come on, none of us know how that game would have ended. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, nucci said: I really don't get you guys getting upset about other's opinions. They're supposed to cause you to get upset and you let them Don't see why Cincy should be upset????😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This is not true, I lose almost every week Good thing you'll know how to fix two broken legs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yup, this is it. We've seen this from McDermott and Frazier before. They don't change anything. It looked obvious to me where the Bengals wanted to go that night. But our struggles with Kelce over the years, Jefferson this season, have shown me this staff will not employ a true double team. I expect a soft zone Sunday, and would be surprised if the Bills start Elam over Jackson. They make in game adjustments all the time. If they just did the same thing over and over, we would have a bottom ranked defense. Kelce hasn't been killing us over the years. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/travis-kelce-stats-vs-bills How does Jefferson having a great game against us mean we do not employ a true double team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: You see a lot of the sentiments on this board also, so why be outraged about the national press? I re-watched Q4 of the Dolphins game and was quite impressed about how we played on O, D and coaching (key timeout). Let it play itself out You are basing your concern on the first quarter of that game? There were stats posted which show that our D improves significantly after Q1. Your later part is more reasoned and thats what I am expecting on Sunday also. 8 plays = everything you need to know man. Cmon. You should know this by now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: When things are really good I'll listen to a lot, search out articles and watch the national media shows. It seems though with all the negativity surrounding an 8 game winning streak that is no longer the case.😉😝😆 But listening to my favourite podcast and seeing 1-2 articles I need to stop as my blood is boiling listening to all the pro Burrow & Cincy talk and how down some are about Allen's erratic play and so much put on the Dolphins game. Of course Burrow's #'s the last two weeks aren't discussed & the pick 6 vs. NE in a game they could've lost too. Add to that, many are gushing over Cincy and the first 10 minutes January 2 (now if Buff scored a TD and not a fg things may have been a little different). Used to spend all Sunday immersed in pre-games and other things, but haven't the last decade. Interesting this weekend, that not just the Buffalo/Cincy game, but the other three too all being talked about using "Recency Bias". Dallas (and Dak) looked great against a lousy fraud in TB. The Giants moved up and down against one of the worst "D's" in football and a team everyone was predicting the clock would strike midnight soon. Finally look at the upstart Jags and what they did. Sunday 3:00 can't come soon enough to get it started (and then all over). Touch grass. You'll be ok 👍🏽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: They make in game adjustments all the time. If they just did the same thing over and over, we would have a bottom ranked defense. Kelce hasn't been killing us over the years. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/travis-kelce-stats-vs-bills How does Jefferson having a great game against us mean we do not employ a true double team? Elam has been on the bench all season, because they love Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Elam has been on the bench all season, because they love Jackson. You have no idea why elam has been on the bench all season. But pretend more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Elam has been on the bench all season, because they love Jackson. This didn't answer my question and no, Elam hasn't been on the bench all season. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElamKa00.htm Elam has been splitting time with Jackson since Tre has been back. All year long, Elam has played about 50% of the snaps. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Nobody tell Nick Wright or any other professional 🧌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It is ridiculous to draw any conclusions from that first Bill/Bengals game. Neither defense looked good and it was very early in the game. Very rarely does the first 10 minutes of a game dictate was happens in the last 50. Lots of things happen. Who’s to say the very next play wouldn’t have been a pick 6 for the Bills or a TD for the Bengals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This is not true, I lose almost every week Speaking of lost, check out this doozy of a 200 to 1 near miss from last week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 DID YOU KNOW? Excluding quarterbacks, the Buffalo Bills have a better yards per carry average than the Bengals, by almost a full yard!!!!! YET The NARRATIVE out there is that we cannot run the ball and that Josh has to do it all. I'm sick and tired of this team being misrepresented because of lazy pundits. Even the most prominent ones are being lazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: When things are really good I'll listen to a lot, search out articles and watch the national media shows. It seems though with all the negativity surrounding an 8 game winning streak that is no longer the case.😉😝😆 But listening to my favourite podcast and seeing 1-2 articles I need to stop as my blood is boiling listening to all the pro Burrow & Cincy talk and how down some are about Allen's erratic play and so much put on the Dolphins game. Of course Burrow's #'s the last two weeks aren't discussed & the pick 6 vs. NE in a game they could've lost too. Add to that, many are gushing over Cincy and the first 10 minutes January 2 (now if Buff scored a TD and not a fg things may have been a little different). Used to spend all Sunday immersed in pre-games and other things, but haven't the last decade. Interesting this weekend, that not just the Buffalo/Cincy game, but the other three too all being talked about using "Recency Bias". Dallas (and Dak) looked great against a lousy fraud in TB. The Giants moved up and down against one of the worst "D's" in football and a team everyone was predicting the clock would strike midnight soon. Finally look at the upstart Jags and what they did. Sunday 3:00 can't come soon enough to get it started (and then all over). If you listen to McDermott's locker room speech post victory and his Monday presser, he's down on the Bills erratic play himself (not just Allen - remember we had a muffed punt by Hines on the Buffalo 32 yd line recovered by Tyrel Dodson.) There's always recency bias in how the sports media covers teams. Josh Allen has commented in the past something like "Have a good game, you're great, the coaches are brilliant, you're gonna be champions. Have a bad game, you suck and we should fire all the coaches" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Its why they play the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday Glad i didn't watch the Bears game with you. 🤮 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday What did you expect Frazier to come out and say? Tell them our game plan/strategy? What was it, 7 offensive play from Cinci and people are freaking out? Edited January 20, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: This is not true, I lose almost every week I just knew you would chime in here! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday The Bears had their way with us the 1st drive too good thing that game didn’t end early or this board would really be down on this team 🫣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 That narrative does seem to have shifted this past week. It now seems to be, who is better - Burrow or Mahomes? Allen became an afterthought in the "best" convo. That's fine. It ALMOST feels like we're under the radar again - though that's impossible for the Bills these days. But I feel that Josh, and the team, are being underestimated. Which is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: When things are really good I'll listen to a lot, search out articles and watch the national media shows. It seems though with all the negativity surrounding an 8 game winning streak that is no longer the case.😉😝😆 But listening to my favourite podcast and seeing 1-2 articles I need to stop as my blood is boiling listening to all the pro Burrow & Cincy talk and how down some are about Allen's erratic play and so much put on the Dolphins game. Of course Burrow's #'s the last two weeks aren't discussed & the pick 6 vs. NE in a game they could've lost too. Add to that, many are gushing over Cincy and the first 10 minutes January 2 (now if Buff scored a TD and not a fg things may have been a little different). Used to spend all Sunday immersed in pre-games and other things, but haven't the last decade. Interesting this weekend, that not just the Buffalo/Cincy game, but the other three too all being talked about using "Recency Bias". Dallas (and Dak) looked great against a lousy fraud in TB. The Giants moved up and down against one of the worst "D's" in football and a team everyone was predicting the clock would strike midnight soon. Finally look at the upstart Jags and what they did. Sunday 3:00 can't come soon enough to get it started (and then get it over with). first, there are a bunch of same threads you could have dropped your rage issue into. Second, maybe it's time to step back from the game a bit. Why would a podcast people make your blood boil because they pick an opponent to win a game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 If Jacoby ***** BRISSETT can blow out Burrow and the Bengals 32-13, I feel the Bills can too. Just watch the game, enjoy it, and don't worry about what others say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Any given Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Here is different and we can debate it. The National Press are not watching 16 games a week in their entirety and analyzing the minutiae or knowing everything that went on. Like me who didn't watch the last two Cincy games vs. Baltimore where they were far from dominating at home and Burrow held to under 220 yards passing can say definitively that Burrow is not too good as of late. Baltimore is a bad match-up for them. They have 2 excellent corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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