Wow…Sammy Watkins statement on Lamar 😬😳🥶🤦🏼‍♂️

[Chaos]

14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

???

 

For values of "struggled" where the struggling team is leading 24-7 at the half, and gave up 2 unanswered FG in the 2nd half, ending 27-16 with a 2 score lead?

 

OK, they punted 5 times in the 2nd half, but I can't blame them for taking their foot off the gas a bit.  But when you have at minimum a 2 score lead all through the game, I don't think that's what most would describe as "struggling".

 

It's not a blowout win, certainly.

Winning and putting away are two very different things. 

[Inigo Montoya]

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/710/lamar-jackson

 

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Ravens "haven't changed their stance" on QB Lamar Jackson and plan to begin negotiating a long-term deal in the offseason. The Ravens were never close to extending Jackson last offseason, leading to Jackson playing out his $23 million fifth-year option. That backfired for Jackson, who finished the year injured for the second straight season. Jackson is asking for Deshaun Watson money, a fully guaranteed deal that would make him one of the league's highest paid quarterbacks. The Ravens are "still all-in" on Jackson and plan to franchise him for 2023 if they can't work out a long-term extension.

[SCBills]

Just now, Inigo Montoya said:

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/710/lamar-jackson

 

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Ravens "haven't changed their stance" on QB Lamar Jackson and plan to begin negotiating a long-term deal in the offseason. The Ravens were never close to extending Jackson last offseason, leading to Jackson playing out his $23 million fifth-year option. That backfired for Jackson, who finished the year injured for the second straight season. Jackson is asking for Deshaun Watson money, a fully guaranteed deal that would make him one of the league's highest paid quarterbacks. The Ravens are "still all-in" on Jackson and plan to franchise him for 2023 if they can't work out a long-term extension.

I feel this is a bluff to force his hand.  
 

Why on earth would they want to franchise him?   To deal with these questions every-time he gets injured, again?

[Utah John]

It's a tough situation for the entire team.  I understand Watkins's view that it would be better if Jackson played, and I don't think he's calling Jackson out.  It boils down to the fact that Jackson doesn't want to put his entire future at risk for a less than 50-50 chance of a SB this year.  By not playing, he does himself no harm at all.  Other teams, and the Ravens as well, know what a healthy Jackson can do, and he'll get paid accordingly if he's healthy.  

 

Anyone remember RG3?  Robert Griffin III?  He played for Washington and really lit it up his rookie year, 2012.  He had a knee injury (LCL sprain) going into the playoffs, but he was put into a playoff game by HC Mike Shanahan.  His injury was made much worse.  He underwent surgery which was nominally successful, but he was never the same player.  He lost his starting job, then his roster spot, and he became a journeyman who bounced around the league for a few years.

 

If you think Lamar Jackson isn't aware of this history, you're just being silly.  Both he and the Ravens don't want to repeat the mistakes the Redskins and RG3 himself made, both for that year and for the future.  

[Scott7975]

Quote

Lamar Jackson took it upon himself Thursday to shed some light on his knee injury.

The Ravens quarterback addressed the lingering questions over his injured knee, which appears likely to keep him out of Sunday's Super Wild Card Weekend matchup against the Bengals.

Jackson tweeted that the PCL injury he suffered in Week 13 against the Broncos is a "grade 2 sprain on the borderline of" a grade 3 sprain. He also has inflammation around the knee, and it remains unstable, Jackson added.

Jackson hasn't practiced since suffering the injury. He remains hopeful for a return, but the lack of clarity in his tweets suggest that no one really knows if that will happen this postseason.

"I'm still in good spirits, as I continue with treatments on the road to recovery," Jackson tweeted. "I wish I could be out there with my guys more than anything but I can't give a 100% of myself to my guys and fans. I'm still hopeful we still have a chance."

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-tweets-injury-update-on-sprained-knee-i-can-t-give-a-100

 

He cant play on that knee if this is true and it probably is.  He would end up like RG3.

[bigK14094]

9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean he is implying Lamar might be dogging it because of his contract situation and calling him out for not playing through the injury essentially.  

Sammy saw Gilmore do it on the field in his last year with the Bills.  He knows how it goes.

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

"Once a response" get me every freaking time.

50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean his knee was still swollen last week, there is no question that he is not fully recovered from his knee injury.

 

The only question is could he push the envelope or not and play on it before it’s 100%.  That’s a legit question, and I’m sure his future for himself plays into that decision.  
 

But there isn’t anything to be “suspicious” about in terms of what the injury was thought to be and him not being healed.  They thought Von would miss 2-4 weeks and he ended up out for the season.  

You're correct on Von but we got updates on Von pretty fast. Surgery, torn ACL, boom.

 

LJ ghosts the Ravens. They don't know what's going on. And the report is that he doesn't use their facilities and doctors or rehab with them.

[RG Murdock]

He should be out there, period. How often have you EVER seen a player talk at such great length about an injury that's keeping him out of the lineup? I guarantee you, if that if it was Josh, Farve, Roethlisberger, Brady, Moon, Vick, they'd be playing...  

[Allen2Moulds]

10 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean he is implying Lamar might be dogging it because of his contract situation and calling him out for not playing through the injury essentially.  

Haha...Sammy

 

....same guy that thought the earth was flat. If it was Ray Lewis it would be a different story.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Everyone “once” a response 🤣

 

this guy has a college degree?

[Beast]

10 hours ago, motorj said:

He's saying Hurts is out there playing hurt and he isn't

Technically, he is Hurts. All the time.

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

"Once a response" get me every freaking time.

 

here go one!  Son!

[Dr.Sack]

How much $ does an acl injury cost a running QB like Lamar? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean really?  This guys got some nerve given his own track record…

 

👇👇This guys response was classic

 

😂😂😂😂😂
 

 

Always remember it’s spelled sam’ME’

[NoHuddleKelly12]

I mean, he’s not wrong, but sometimes you have to shoot the messenger, Sammy! 😂

[Goin Breakdown]

12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean really?  This guys got some nerve given his own track record…

 

👇👇This guys response was classic

 

😂😂😂😂😂
 

 

Daaaaaang. I never saw this play. He sold on that play. Makes me think about how awesome John Browns diving catch was last week. 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Daaaaaang. I never saw this play. He sold on that play. Makes me think about how awesome John Browns diving catch was last week. 

 

He made a business decision.

[papazoid]

watkins has a right to think the way he does...probably shared by many teammates

 

but to do your brother dirty by publicly shining a light on a topic that will bring lamar plenty of ridicule and some hate.....is wrong

[Mr. WEO]

jeez, how many rings does this guy need???

[Beck Water]

26 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Daaaaaang. I never saw this play. He sold on that play. Makes me think about how awesome John Browns diving catch was last week. 

 

Right, and also Diggs took a glance back and then turned on the jets.

[Goin Breakdown]

18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He made a business decision.

Yeah the post was waiting for him but it's not the first time he'd be injured I suppose. 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

 

Easily the most offensive part of this is "everyone once a response".

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

"Once a response" get me every freaking time.

You're correct on Von but we got updates on Von pretty fast. Surgery, torn ACL, boom.

 

LJ ghosts the Ravens. They don't know what's going on. And the report is that he doesn't use their facilities and doctors or rehab with them.

 

30 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

Easily the most offensive part of this is "everyone once a response".

It’s so incredible. Everyone focused on all y’all little jobs. 

[Luka]

Ah yes, Sammy "Glass Vase" Watkins, maybe one of the biggest draft busts of all time. Maybe he should've taken his own advice and played through some injuries as well. What an absolute clown this guy is. Easily one of the worst draft picks by the Bills of all time and in general just a ***** person.

[BillsShredder83]

"Theres s turd in the punch bowl"

 

Hes 100% right.

[RocCityRoller]

Not a fan of Sammy Watkins at all. This is also a perfect case of people in glass houses (bodies) shouldn't be throwing stones

so most of us do not miss the irony of it all.

 

That said, he does speak some truth.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

19 minutes ago, Luka said:

Ah yes, Sammy "Glass Vase" Watkins, maybe one of the biggest draft busts of all time. Maybe he should've taken his own advice and played through some injuries as well. What an absolute clown this guy is. Easily one of the worst draft picks by the Bills of all time and in general just a ***** person.

 

Not even close.

[RunTheBall]

Baltimore knows Lamar isn’t the long term answer. He’s only as effective as he can run, and for the second year in a row he’s got a bumb wheel. Oh they will talk like they want to keep him, and if Lamar comes to his senses he could get a good not great deal, but something tells me without an agent he’s over estimating his value. No one is giving him or anyone else fully guaranteed contracts. The owners absolutely will put the kibosh on that after the Watson debacle. Lamar has reached his ceiling, he’s not a great passer, and now he’s gimping. He is not in the same conversation as Mahomes, Allen, Burrow or Hebert. He’s a tier down and his offer will reflect that. If he doesn’t accept he will be franchised twice and maybe tagged and traded after the second one. Baltimore has all the leverage.

Edited January 14, 2023 by RunTheBall

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Baltimore knows Lamar isn’t the long term answer. He’s only as effective as he can run, and for the second year in a row he’s got a bumb wheel. Oh they will talk like they want to keep him, and if Lamar comes to his senses he could get a good not great deal, but something tells me without an agent he’s over estimating his value. No one is giving him or anyone else fully guaranteed contracts. The owners absolutely will put the kibosh on that after the Watson debacle. Lamar has reached his ceiling, he’s not a great passer, and now he’s gimping. He is not in the same conversation as Mahomes, Allen, Burrow or Hebert. He’s a tier down and his offer will reflect that. If he doesn’t accept he will be franchised twice and maybe tagged and traded after the second one. Baltimore has all the leverage.

 

You don't need an agent to tell you what to ask for in a contract, just a pair of eyes to see what the true elite QBs have gotten.  An agent would try to talk him into accepting one of those, finding he's having none of it, and then leave.  Which is why I said the Ravens should franchise him and shop around for a deal and see what he's truly worth.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

“….will this team to a Super Bowl..”"……….sure…

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

You don't need an agent to tell you what to ask for in a contract, just a pair of eyes to see what the true elite QBs have gotten.  An agent would try to talk him into accepting one of those, finding he's having none of it, and then leave.  Which is why I said the Ravens should franchise him and shop around for a deal and see what he's truly worth.

Ian Rapoport is reporting that the Ravens have said they are committed to Lamar Jackson and will begin working on a long term deal when the season is over.

[Buffalo03]

6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I mean he opens with downplaying Lamar’s injury for one by saying everyone’s hurt this time of year.  He goes on to imply he’s maybe dogging it essentially over his contract.  
 

Then he suggests Lamar risk play on an injured knee anyway, even if it means just on pass plays.  
 

You don’t see the irony of all that coming from a player in Watkins who has never put forth his best effort, missed a ton of games over tic tac injuries, and has coasted since getting paid?  

But more importantly, he is stirring up a distraction and questions heading into a playoff game.  He was stupid for talking about it in the media ahead of their playoff game and basically implying he has no confidence or faith in the backups either by calling out Lamar.  
 

Not to mention, Sammy wasn’t even on that team when Lamar got hurt because the Packers (a team desperate for WR help) felt they were a better team without Sammy…and turns out they were. 
 

 

I know. I don't think he really slammed him that badly though 

[BringBackFergy]

31 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Ian Rapoport is reporting that the Ravens have said they are committed to Lamar Jackson and will begin working on a long term deal when the season is over.

I bet Lamar’s knee feels 120% better tomorrow night at 11:30pm. 

[HOUSE]

This will probably keep me up all night...thanks 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, chris heff said:

Ian Rapoport is reporting that the Ravens have said they are committed to Lamar Jackson and will begin working on a long term deal when the season is over.

 

What else are the Ravens going to say, at this point at least? 

[balln]

30 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

What else are the Ravens going to say, at this point at least? 

Yea it’s over for BaL. Don’t sign Lamar ! Make them trade you for a real deal. Or make them franchisee you- that’s an immediate cap hit of 32 million! Lol 

[JoshAllin]

 

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, papazoid said:

watkins has a right to think the way he does...probably shared by many teammates

 

but to do your brother dirty by publicly shining a light on a topic that will bring lamar plenty of ridicule and some hate.....is wrong

 

why is Watkins right? if the guy can't be cleared to play, what's he supposed to do?

[Nuncha]

Hammy Watchin is telling Lamar to play injured?  

[Eastport bills]

Sammy’s just frustrated that Lamar isn’t playing. The Ravens defense will keep the Bengals in check but these  backups can’t put pts on the board. The bottom line is Lamar missed the bulk of the last 2 seasons. This year he’s out 6 weeks with a knee sprain, and won’t suit up for the playoffs. The Ravens were right to wait on giving him Mahomes,Allen or Kyler money, but the kid has the ability to wreck their season. I like Lamar but a good GM would trade him for a boatload of draft choices. He’s injury prone and a QBs biggest asset is his availability.