Welcome Back Tre White !!

[T master]

It's been a long time coming but it looks as if Tre White is back to his old self he may have a bit of a way to go to be in game shape but he looked pretty dang good against the Phins ! There were more than a couple of plays where he made his presence known & kept the Phins WR's from catching balls that could have made a difference .

 

I know that he will be a great piece to have back during the play offs & i think that Beane & McD along with the medical staff did him right by holding him out longer than maybe normal so they could work him back into game shape to keep him on the filed & hopefully not have any set backs at all .

 

This has been one weird year for the Bills and their injuries it would be great to have all the number ones on the field at one time but Hyde won't be back & others hopefully will be getting over their injuries in time to be mostly healthy for the play offs ! But having Tre back is huge for the Bills secondary & he looks good !! 

 

Welcome Back Tre - GO BILLS !!!! 

[Coach Tuesday]

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

[Warriorspikes51]

He looked solid minus the one play where he let Hill have a free release off the line....TD

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

He got beaten a few times, yes, but he also had multiple lockdown reps and made some key stops.

Peak form? Maybe not. He's improving week to week, though, and is starting to round into form at just the right time for the Bills.

Thinking of a couple of the stops he made yesterday -- including a key third down stop -- I'm not certain that the Bills would have won the game without Tre in the lineup.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

 

He made several good plays on the ball tho as well including the coverage on the key 3rd down stop on the last Dolphin drive that forced a punt...it wasn't all bad

Edited December 19, 2022 by Big Turk

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

He made several good plays on the ball tho as well including the coverage on the key 3rd down stop on the last Dolphin drive that forced a punt...it wasn't all bad

He did very well on the short routes which is Tua’s bread and butter.  No doubt.  But he’s going to get targeted when they play against downfield passing teams like Cinci and KC.

[Big Turk]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

He did very well on the short routes which is Tua’s bread and butter.  No doubt.  But he’s going to get targeted when they play against downfield passing teams like Cinci and KC.

 

I expect him to keep getting a little better each week...will it be to the level he was?  Probably not this year.  But I expect he will look a lot better by the first playoff game.

[Magox]

I think it’s his acceleration to long speed that is off.  The double move by Waddle and Waddles explosive first step was too much for White and Tyreek’s ability to accelerate past him exposed White’s limitation at this point.

 

That aside White played excellent.  He was great on all the short to intermediate stuff, his anticipation was elite and broke up several key passes.

 

I think the Bills will need to make sure that when hes Locked up in man that they have his back against the deeper routes.   That is a vulnerability 

[Cray51]

Tre had an off and on day yesterday.  Here's my suggestion with White - Keep a safety over the top on his half of the field.  He doesnt have that extra gear right now, he was beat over top by both Waddle and Hill yesterday.  However, he was very strong at playing short routes and zone.

 

I expect him to continue to improve, and most teams do not run out Waddle and Hill.  So I'm hopeful he will be an impact player come playoff time.

[eball]

I was encouraged by Tre's play on Saturday night as well.  He is not yet back to his pre-injury form but for the first time I sensed he is close.

[LABILLBACKER]

22 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

He made a couple of nice deflections but you can clearly see he's slightly favoring the leg. He won't be 100% until next season. But at least we have his leadership on the field for 99% of the snaps. 

[Big Blitz]

Everyone is beaten over the top by Waddle and Hill so this isn’t a bad measuring stick.  
 

I’m very confident he can handle JuJu Smith Shuster, Marquez Valdez Scantling, Mecole Hardman and Kadarius Toney - yes this is me laughing at the Chiefs - oh yea I know some of them are fast.  Sure so is everyone in the NFL.  

 

Also think he’ll be fine against Mike Williams.  
 

And I think he’ll be against Tee Higgins more then Chase.  Let Elam and a safety run around with him.  
 

 

[FireChans]

25 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

I think we need an explanation on playing “fake press” against Hill and Waddle. Is it White being hesitant to be physical at the LOS? Frazier and DB coaches?

 

I know Tre historically has never been the man-up press CB that some other guys do. It’s just never really been his game. But it’s an odd move to line up right on them and let them get free releases. A foot race between Tre and Waddle/Hill starting at the LOS with Hamlin “help” over the top is a recipe for a 40 yard TD. 
 

Just weird.

[BuffaloBill]

By his own admission he is not yet 100%of his full capabilities. Hopefully he will have week over week improvements. 

[BruceVilanch]

He should be rounding into peak Tre by playoff time. We are a much different team when he is out there. 

[Nineforty]

30 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

He looked solid minus the one play where he let Hill have a free release off the line....TD

was he on an island on that play?

 

I remember the replay kinda made it look like we may been in Cover 1 or at least had one safety high, over the middle ... but it also looked like he broke to Tre's side immediately. 

 

I would like to see better angles of that play but it did look like White was on an island, and if that is the case, I would think he would back off and not press...

[ColoradoBills]

I sure wish that Tre would have held on to that "almost" INT.

It would have gone far in getting his confidence back from being gone for so long.

Maybe this Saturday!

[appoo]

He's yet to regain his initial burst, Bills will have to scheme conservatively around this group of DBs

[DapperCam]

Nobody is running stride for stride with Hill. Hamlin should have been over there on that long TD for support, but he was too slow to recognize it (big surprise!). I thought White looked good yesterday in general.

[FilthyBeast]

He had a few bad plays against Hill which is going to happen to all good DB's but still think he's not anywhere close to form and probably won't be until next year.

 

Either way having him out there instead of a bunch of rookies and subpar players still matters if this team has any chance of beating the Chiefs or Bengals in the playoffs.

[Utah John]

If Tre doesn't get hurt Thanksgiving 2021, the Bills don't lose to the Chiefs in the 13 second game.  

 

That said, he's making very good progress.  He played a lot of receivers very well on Saturday.  

[Freddie's Dead]

Tre' White is nowhere near his pre-ACL form.  I borrowed a page from Dickie Vitale, and called Tre' a Dow Joneser.  It seemed like he was good play, bad play, good play, bad play all night long.  The good plays show that he's getting there, the bad plays show he still has a ways to go.

[gjv]

Don't think White is fully recovered. He wasn't his typical demonstrative self with the official after being push-off interfered with by Waddle. 

[John from Riverside]

The only way he gets it back is by being out there actually playing we got your back tre

 

[ProcessTruster]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

He looked solid minus the one play where he let Hill have a free release off the line....TD

pretty sure they were in zone on that play

[jletha]

Tre got beat a couple times by the best WR in the league, it happens. But he also made some great plays contesting catches, which I felt was lacking with Dane. And they threw at him, made him prove it. I thought he played great.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by jletha

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, jletha said:

Tre got beat a couple times by the best WR duo in the league, it happens. Theyve done it to many teams this season. But he also made some great plays contesting catches, which I felt was lacking with Dane.

 

 

 

Tre played far better than people think. Not perfect, or up to his normal pre-injury form, but pretty good. If he keeps improving the way he has been each week, by the time playoffs come he will be a lot closer to his pre-injury form than most thought possible, including me.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Big Turk

[Gunsgoodtime]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

Agree with this.  He is not back to the Tre White we knew.  He may never be lets hope he can though.

[billykay]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nice to have his energy back there but he got absolutely smoked multiple times and the ‘Phins couldn’t capitalize.  He’s nowhere near peak form.

I thought that he had a generally very good game. He was beaten deep once and looked slow on that particular play. That is probably how all DB's look against Hill. He was in the middle of everything. It's good to have him back.

[Mark Vader]

16 minutes ago, jletha said:

Tre got beat a couple times by the best WR in the league, it happens. But he also made some great plays contesting catches, which I felt was lacking with Dane. And they threw at him, made him prove it. I thought he played great.

 

 

Love this breakdown.

 

White is getting better and better.

[BuffaloRebound]

His ability to play the ball was so sorely needed.  Seemed like he had more pass breakups saturday night than the whole secondary the previous month.  

[BillsfaninSB]

3 hours ago, Utah John said:

If Tre doesn't get hurt Thanksgiving 2021, the Bills don't lose to the Chiefs in the 13 second game.  

 

That said, he's making very good progress.  He played a lot of receivers very well on Saturday.  

I don’t think they lose to TB and maybe not to NE.

 

If they won one those games Bills would have had KC at home assuming the Bills beat the Steelers (likely). 

[Charles Romes]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He did very well on the short routes which is Tua’s bread and butter.  No doubt.  But he’s going to get targeted when they play against downfield passing teams like Cinci and KC.

 
I was shocked at out dink and dunk Burrow’s passing game was against the Bucs. It looks they have acknowledged that Burrow is not great under pressure and takes way too many sacks and hence they are trying to build a quick passing game. 

[Alphadawg7]

This whole thing people are saying about Tre "getting beat bad" a couple times is being over exaggerative.  This wasn't some JAG he was covering, Hill and Waddle beat guys every week because not only are they talented, they have elite speed.  

 

No corner wins every play 100%, its going to happen where great players like Hill and Waddle are going to make some plays too no matter who is covering them.  But Tre overall had a very good game and was great to see him playing with more trust and confidence in his leg and movement.  He played more aggressive and attacked the ball. 

 

So for me, this was a good game for Tre and exactly what I wanted to see from him in his road to regaining his form.  He still isn't even all the way there yet, but still had a strong game for the most part.  Very encouraging as we gear up to try and win out and enter the post season.  

[EasternOHBillsFan]

I'm just happy to see that the Bills coaching staff realized that Elam is better than what we had out there before to help Tre.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Best Williams Available]

Hey guy who’s been out 1 year, plays the second hardest position in the sport, and has played 1 full game this year? Go cover the 2 fastest WRs in the NFL and shut them down for 60 minutes, please. Or else we’ll say you suck. Thanks. 
—Some Bills Fans

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

This whole thing people are saying about Tre "getting beat bad" a couple times is being over exaggerative.  This wasn't some JAG he was covering, Hill and Waddle beat guys every week because not only are they talented, they have elite speed.  

 

No corner wins every play 100%, its going to happen where great players like Hill and Waddle are going to make some plays too no matter who is covering them.  But Tre overall had a very good game and was great to see him playing with more trust and confidence in his leg and movement.  He played more aggressive and attacked the ball. 

 

So for me, this was a good game for Tre and exactly what I wanted to see from him in his road to regaining his form.  He still isn't even all the way there yet, but still had a strong game for the most part.  Very encouraging as we gear up to try and win out and enter the post season.  

I think where the mistake is made is that we don’t look at trey white in relation to how other teams are doing against the Miami receivers in the league this year. We are seeing hill and waddle beating very good corners all year and yet we expect white, still coming off of a major surgery to be just shutting them down I think it’s a lot to ask 

[Utah John]

9 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

I don’t think they lose to TB and maybe not to NE.

 

If they won one those games Bills would have had KC at home assuming the Bills beat the Steelers (likely). 

Good point.

[Spiderweb]

20 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Agree with this.  He is not back to the Tre White we knew.  He may never be lets hope he can though.

Here's to hoping for a return of the old White and maybe even an improved White over time.

[sunshynman]

On 12/19/2022 at 11:30 AM, FireChans said:

But it’s an odd move to line up right on them and let them get free releases.

I don't think he was trying to give them a free release. He put his hands out to chip him, but Hill just moved out the way and was gone before Tre even stepped back. I hate that we hardly ever press receivers, especially smaller ones. But it was an odd chose to have a guy that's not at peak physically try and press a guy like Hill/Waddle.