Jerome007 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Everyone except for Diggs, Cook and Edmunds. Miller played well. What puzzles me, is besides the first pass, and the last because they absolutely needed it, there was near zero long pass attempts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I agree. The helmet hit that Allen took @ the 1 yard line, took something out of him. It was right in front of me and it was loud. I thought he was concussed on that hit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beast said: I talked to my brother after the game about that Edmunds play. I thought, from the endzone angle, he had clear possession of the ball when he came down to the turf. My brother felt it was too close to overturn. My argument is that could be a game changing play. It’s worth the timeout. I think there’s a reason the Jets hurried and snapped the ball. That play definitely should have been challenged by the Bills sideline. Regardless of the outcome that would have been the right move. there was nothing close about it. His hand was clearly cradled under the ball as he landed on the ground. The fact that he nay not have had it at the end of the resulting scrum is a moot point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Miller played well. What puzzles me, is besides the first pass, and the last because they absolutely needed it, there was near zero long pass attempts. Von made the big turnover play. I also think he lost his rush discipline a couple of times today that resulted in the Jets getting outside. He wasn't bad, but a mixed day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I agree. The helmet hit that Allen took @ the 1 yard line, took something out of him. I don't know if it's concussion but something doesn't seem right with Allen since about that hit. Uncharacteristic bad throws (both decision and placement). It reminds me of how he was throwing when he hurt his shoulder in the Raiders game a few years back. For about 3 games he was just off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 did anybody on the team play well today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Everyone! If was a total team effort. It took a vital contribution from everyone to let an inferior team beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: It was right in front of me and it was loud. I thought he was concussed on that hit. odd that im praying for a concussion here, but im hoping thats whats going on right now. i remember a stretch of bad games starting around week 3 or 4 from josh, and we ended up finding out it was a shoulder (maybe not but upper body) injury, and he righted the ship in a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii50 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: For what it’s worth I really think he was concussed against GB. It would explain a lot. If you watch JA miked up video he was joking about it right after he took hit. Could have still been concussed, but seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 @Flucod wearing out that "disagree" button lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: @Flucod wearing out that "disagree" button lol Ha, was the coaches today, that is getting real old to hear every week. Coaches don’t throw int’s, miss tackles, miss kicks AND drop game winning balls when the ball hits you between the 1 and 3. Even the defense really was not that bad overall, except Jaquan, Elam and Bernard, but not the worst ever. This loss is on Gabe Davis and JA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Team loss. Get mad and get to work on the Vikings. We will see the Jets again in 5 weeks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said: The hyperbole with Allen on this forum is through the roof. Let me know when he makes it to one Super Bowl much less wins one. People on here calling him the second coming of Tom Brady. Please. Great QB, but Beane has screwed him bad with Singletary as his starting RB. You need a running game of some kind, Jets RB ran with burst and ran hard making big plays in the running game making things easy for Wilson. Beane should have traded for Josh Jacobs because Singletary is not a starting RB in this league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Duds of the game is everyone not named Stefon Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hawaii50 said: If you watch JA miked up video he was joking about it right after he took hit. Could have still been concussed, but seems unlikely. That’s part of why I think something happened. Tried to laugh it off. But I’m just saying: that was one powerful collision. And the way he played in the second half against GB and today lends itself tot the idea that something happened. 37 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: odd that im praying for a concussion here, but im hoping thats whats going on right now. i remember a stretch of bad games starting around week 3 or 4 from josh, and we ended up finding out it was a shoulder (maybe not but upper body) injury, and he righted the ship in a few weeks He hurt the shoulder against the raiders. That injury affect accuracy. Whatever’s goin on here seems mental. It’s so out of character for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He had his guy beat on that penultimate drive for a TD. Josh missed him. He under threw Diggs earlier for a sure TD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef4131 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No he wasn't. Re watched. Edmunds got pushed around and was out of position. Also did not make any penetrating tackles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea Johnson's lack of athleticism shows up. He knows his assignment. But he just lacks the athletic ability. The tackling was atrocious!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Mitch Morse was getting walloped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunTim Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It's easier to say who played well: On Offence: Diggs - Having a heck of a year so far. Cook - Beginning to see his talent come through. On Defence: Edmunds - much maligned, but had a good game in the main. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Allen had a bad game but in all fairness he can’t do it all himself game in game out. These days are gonna happen until someone besides Diggs starts making plays. Jaquon Johnson. Dude played flat out terrible. Leslie and McDermott… Second game in a row your getting gashed on D and they are too stubborn to put and extra LBer on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: If Josh Allen has a bad game then the Bills lose. Simple as that. He's the entire offense. Can't win a championship when you only have 1 good player because people have bad games from time to time The guy you literally named your screen name after is pretty decent too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, BananaB said: Jaquon Johnson. Dude played flat out terrible. He didn't play terrible, he is terrible. No one wanted to hear it when Hyde and Poyer got hurt. He's trash and doesn't have NFL athleticism. He's a special teamer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) If the OL had not played like cheerleaders, we would have won. Having all 3 all pro candidates in our secondary sidelined by injury is also taking a big toll. Milano sat too. The secondary will be fine when everyone is healthy again. The OL is our achilles heel and a lot of opposing DC's are going to be exploiting that in the 2nd half of the season. The DL didn't play as well as they could have, but they are still solid. It wasn't their best game, but they still weren't as awful as the OL. If Beane isn't all in on upgrading the right side of that OL for '23, it will be a lost opportunity. Brown's bad ankle is no excuse either because he's pretty bad too. Yes Josh could have played much, much better, but he had pressure on him nearly every time he dropped back. I can't overstate how poorly our OL played. Edited November 7, 2022 by GreggTX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, HunTim said: It's easier to say who played well: On Offence: Diggs - Having a heck of a year so far. Cook - Beginning to see his talent come through. On Defence: Edmunds - much maligned, but had a good game in the main. This is literally it. Only a handful of guys showed up today. I loved Cook's game and he seems to be ascending. Hooray for silver linings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Allen’s two picks cost them the game. Both picks inexcusable Correct. But damn, the whole team was just abysmal today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Maybe we should give out Game Testicles instead of Game Balls after weeks like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Anybody see the holding on Dawkins at the end? That better have been legitimate penalty. That ended our game. It wasn't a hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Did diddly in the second half Had 2 steps down the sideline and was wildly underthrown 6 hours ago, Einstein said: GABE DAVIS. How many passes is he going to drop? It feels like at least 1 per game at this point, if not two. Apparently 46% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 hours ago, RiotAct said: Allen Secondary Coaching staff for not challenging the call on the field for the clear interception by Tremaine. Couple stats that surprised me: Wilson only had 154 yards passing. Watching the game it seemed like he was completing all his passes, would have thought more than 150 yards The Bills were 8 for 13 on 3rd downs at one point 8 for 11, hard to believe they were that good on 3rd down, but only scored 17 points If they challenged that call, they'd have only had 2 TO's left at the end of the game and never got the ball back. That like many NFL plays whichever way it was called on the field, it would stay that way. Not enough evidence to over turn whichever way it was called. Gene Steratore the rules expert for CBS and NOT a fan said the same, would never be over turned. Need to stop being a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 hours ago, VaMilBill said: Bass: missing a field goal. Yes it’s 55 yards, but a lot of kickers can make that…including him. In a 3 point loss, that missed FG means a lot. Josh: two horrible, horrible picks that would even make Justin Fields blush. Josh couldn’t make any throws and even ones where he connected, he was off target preventing YAC. Notably is the first pass of the game to Diggs, if that is accurate, that’s a TD. Same with the overthrow of Hines and Diggs later in the game. Just a terrible performance by him. This game should be the dagger in his MVP hopes. Hopefully he’s not hurt otherwise our season is sunk. Jaquan Johnson: he was absolutely brutal today. Just like giving up the bomb on 3rd and 15 that would be the go ahead touchdown against Miami, he cost us this game. He had numerous missed tackles, poor instincts, bad angles, weak in coverage. The last drive alone the kept running to the weak side right at him and he couldn’t stop squat. I honestly don’t see how they can start him from now on with dean Marlowe now here. Anytime JJ is on the field, we can’t stop anything. Coaches: bad game plan. Seems like we didn’t have any game plan on offense at all. They just want Josh to go out and make a play which is terrible. Frazier couldn’t do anything on defense to stop the run for two weeks in a row. I’ll add Coaches/Bean for not finding a Johnson replacement. Put Jackson back there if need be. Johnson cannot start another game. 25 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: It wasn't a hold they need to make these reviewable or auto review inside 2 min. Ridiculous if not a meaningful hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFLO Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 16 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Anybody see the holding on Dawkins at the end? That better have been legitimate penalty. That ended our game. The guy Dawkins was blocking got tripped by one of his fellow Jets line-men, causing him to lose his balance and twist over onto his back, Dion drove him into the ground and landed on top of him. If you didn't see the trip it looked like dawkins got beat, twisted the guy over and tackled him. The Refs then let blatant holds by us go uncalled on all of the remaining plays. NFL officiating.... it is a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I'm pretty sick of Gabe Davis right now, he's so unreliable this year. That drop at the end would have been Play of the Year if he hauled it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 16 hours ago, VaMilBill said: Bass: missing a field goal. Yes it’s 55 yards, but a lot of kickers can make that…including him. In a 3 point loss, that missed FG means a lot. Josh: two horrible, horrible picks that would even make Justin Fields blush. Josh couldn’t make any throws and even ones where he connected, he was off target preventing YAC. Notably is the first pass of the game to Diggs, if that is accurate, that’s a TD. Same with the overthrow of Hines and Diggs later in the game. Just a terrible performance by him. This game should be the dagger in his MVP hopes. Hopefully he’s not hurt otherwise our season is sunk. Jaquan Johnson: he was absolutely brutal today. Just like giving up the bomb on 3rd and 15 that would be the go ahead touchdown against Miami, he cost us this game. He had numerous missed tackles, poor instincts, bad angles, weak in coverage. The last drive alone the kept running to the weak side right at him and he couldn’t stop squat. I honestly don’t see how they can start him from now on with dean Marlowe now here. Anytime JJ is on the field, we can’t stop anything. Coaches: bad game plan. Seems like we didn’t have any game plan on offense at all. They just want Josh to go out and make a play which is terrible. Frazier couldn’t do anything on defense to stop the run for two weeks in a row. Yes Bass missed FG hurt & Josh had a terrible game But Frazier wasn't on the field I think that's on the players execution even Phillips said they missed a bunch of tackles so i think (Which it does happen) the team as a hole had a bad game . The run game was working from what i've read ( i didn't watch but a piece of the game) but because this league is so pass happy they seem to always stick more to that than the run but if it's working then use it until it doesn't work then maybe it will help the Passing game . Josh is always expected to carry this team to victory but he's going to have a game here & there like this one that he just isn't playing well & the other parts of of the team such as the run game need to carry him for a minute but learn from it & move on . These folks saying "is it time for another kicker' & 'Frazier & the coaches called a terrible game" then the one "Beane can't build a team" dammit this is the same team that just a couple of weeks ago when they beat the Chiefs these folks were creaming their jeans but they have one bad game & it's freakin fire every body i just don't get it ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 hours ago, VaMilBill said: Bass: missing a field goal. Yes it’s 55 yards, but a lot of kickers can make that…including him. In a 3 point loss, that missed FG means a lot. Josh: two horrible, horrible picks that would even make Justin Fields blush. Josh couldn’t make any throws and even ones where he connected, he was off target preventing YAC. Notably is the first pass of the game to Diggs, if that is accurate, that’s a TD. Same with the overthrow of Hines and Diggs later in the game. Just a terrible performance by him. This game should be the dagger in his MVP hopes. Hopefully he’s not hurt otherwise our season is sunk. Jaquan Johnson: he was absolutely brutal today. Just like giving up the bomb on 3rd and 15 that would be the go ahead touchdown against Miami, he cost us this game. He had numerous missed tackles, poor instincts, bad angles, weak in coverage. The last drive alone the kept running to the weak side right at him and he couldn’t stop squat. I honestly don’t see how they can start him from now on with dean Marlowe now here. Anytime JJ is on the field, we can’t stop anything. Coaches: bad game plan. Seems like we didn’t have any game plan on offense at all. They just want Josh to go out and make a play which is terrible. Frazier couldn’t do anything on defense to stop the run for two weeks in a row. Justin fields has been balling. Not sure why you used him as example. Best qb of his class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Dorsey. I don’t know why we did not unleash a quick passing game like against Donald week 1. The tape was there for everyone to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, T master said: Yes Bass missed FG hurt & Josh had a terrible game But Frazier wasn't on the field I think that's on the players execution even Phillips said they missed a bunch of tackles so i think (Which it does happen) the team as a hole had a bad game . The run game was working from what i've read ( i didn't watch but a piece of the game) but because this league is so pass happy they seem to always stick more to that than the run but if it's working then use it until it doesn't work then maybe it will help the Passing game . Josh is always expected to carry this team to victory but he's going to have a game here & there like this one that he just isn't playing well & the other parts of of the team such as the run game need to carry him for a minute but learn from it & move on . These folks saying "is it time for another kicker' & 'Frazier & the coaches called a terrible game" then the one "Beane can't build a team" dammit this is the same team that just a couple of weeks ago when they beat the Chiefs these folks were creaming their jeans but they have one bad game & it's freakin fire every body i just don't get it ... I think people are fine with Bass. He’s just not as great as we’d like to believe. We really didn’t even try to run the ball. We’d run every now and then, get nothing and then proceed to throw the ball a bunch. No consistency in the running game, although outside of Josh’s big run, we weren’t very effective at all. this team is good. But I gotta say, Josh needs to figure it out. Whatever it is. We can’t slump very much longer. Hopefully he’s ok too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pags24 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Plenty of blame to go around but Dorsey stands out on this one. I'm a big fan of our OC but I don't understand it....going into the game we knew they could rush the passer as well as anyone in the league. Why not run more short passes? Screens, slants, jet sweeps, run plays, etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 21 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I think people are fine with Bass. He’s just not as great as we’d like to believe. We really didn’t even try to run the ball. We’d run every now and then, get nothing and then proceed to throw the ball a bunch. No consistency in the running game, although outside of Josh’s big run, we weren’t very effective at all. this team is good. But I gotta say, Josh needs to figure it out. Whatever it is. We can’t slump very much longer. Hopefully he’s ok too I agree but a lot of fans here say that running backs are a dime a dozen but if you look at the kid in Houston he makes stuff happen despite the lack of O line play & that directly compliments Josh alls the opponents D needs to d is focus on stopping him & game over as we saw against the Jets . Weather the experts or fans think the run game doesn't matter they need to incorporate some good packages for those we have like they did when they used our FB lined up with the HB behind him in the Chiefs game if the Bills don't establish some kind of good ground game they will never make it to the SB it just won't happen ... IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 1:12 PM, KDIGGZ said: If Josh Allen has a bad game then the Bills lose. Simple as that. He's the entire offense. Can't win a championship when you only have 1 good player because people have bad games from time to time When Kelly had a bad day, Thurman picked up the slack. When Thurm had a bad day, Kelly carried the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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