All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

To the Bills they are. Laugh all you want but the Bills have been great at drafting players in rounds 4-7. 
 

Since either McDermott or Beane have been here the Bills have drafted:

 

Matt Milano- 5th round

Taron Johnson-4th round

Siran Neal- 5th round 

Wyatt Teller- 5th round(mistake)

Jaquan Johnson- 6th round

Gabriel Davis 4th round

Tyler Bass- 6th round

Dane Jackson- 7th round

Damar Hamlin- 6th round 

Khalil Shakir- 5th round

Christian Benford- 6th round

 

This doesn’t even include guys still in the league like Ray Ray McCloud or fringe guys like Tommy Sweeney, Tommy Doyle, or Daryl Johnson 

 

 

Yeah I value those picks.   I think the relative success rate they've had late in the draft is a reflection of Beane not drafting as needily on day 3.    I think there is a tendency for teams to focus on the first round pick for months and then after the emotional conclusion of that quest get a little careless and needy on day 2.    It's almost a Bills tradition at this point,  regardless of GM.   Their 2nd round track record in particular is terrible in seasons where they also have a first round pick.

 

But they will have the opportunity to acquire more of those with trade backs for volume to fill pending roster vacancies.   I could also see them trading some players they know they won't be able to extend a season early in coming offseasons.   The way they do business will naturally have to change.

[HappyDays]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Bucs, Packers and Rams have all been playing abysmal.    

[BuffaloBaumer]

It will all come down to if he is willing to play for us the remainder of the year and collect a big paycheck next year for multiple years or if he wants that now. If another team is willing to offer multiyear contract and big money, I think you can take Buffalo out of that conversation immediately.

[boyst]

Just now, BuffaloBaumer said:

It will all come down to if he is willing to play for us the remainder of the year and collect a big paycheck next year for multiple years or if he wants that now. If another team is willing to offer multiyear contract and big money, I think you can take Buffalo out of that conversation immediately.

if he's smart he signs with us, contends and does a 2nd year option at a good rate. uses this offseason to further heal and rehab. then look for one last big paycheck after some good stats in buffalo .

[Bferra13]

12 hours ago, zow2 said:

OBJ is in ring chasing mode. Buffalo is the flavor of the moment. His buddy Von is here and putting on the full court press.  He probably hears great things about Allen, his gun, and getting the WRs the ball. He hears about the “Mafia” and all the fun we’re having here.  Assuming he can actually play at a high level again, i believe he will sign here, specifically for this playoff season.  Not sure of anything beyond that.

Gonna be a Cowboy. Book it! Might be in ring chasing mode, but I guarantee he's more into money chasing mode. They actually need another weapon on the outside (where we have Gabe) and have over 6 mil in cap space. Down vote me all you want but that is a pretty perfect spot for him honestly.

[C.Biscuit97]

I come to this thread to get angry at how much of a teenage girl ODB is and how completely overvalued he is. 

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

Gonna be a Cowboy. Book it! Might be in ring chasing mode, but I guarantee he's more into money chasing mode. They actually need another weapon on the outside (where we have Gabe) and have over 6 mil in cap space. Down vote me all you want but that is a pretty perfect spot for him honestly.

 

I can't argue your reasoning. If they are willing to give him big money, then this is a good bet. If he wants to give himself a better shot at winning a championship, then Buffalo is where he should go. If he helps the Bills win, then he could cash in on a big contract next year. 

[SCBills]

20 minutes ago, boyst said:

if he's smart he signs with us, contends and does a 2nd year option at a good rate. uses this offseason to further heal and rehab. then look for one last big paycheck after some good stats in buffalo .

This.   I think Cover 1 broke down how a 2 year incentive laden deal would work, given most of those incentives could be pushed to be paid in ‘24. 
 

Gives Odell some security and the ability to show what he can do over 1.25 seasons on a team with top notch facilities and injury management. 
 

Then cash in on his one last mega payday.  
 

Edited November 2, 2022 by SCBills

[TheBrownBear]

Is OBJ even going to be ready to play meaningful snaps this year?  Seems like these ACL's are taking longer to come back from than I remembered.  I'm a UCLA guy and the school announced this week that two of our basketball players that tore ACL's over a full year ago are still not cleared to play.  If he somehow manages to get himself fully healed by say, mid-December, he's still got to pass the physical, get himself up to gamespeed (a few weeks), learn the playbook, etc.  So, you're looking at unveiling him in the playoffs?  I'm excited about the idea of OBJ in Buffalo, but I just don't think it's likely to happen, or if it does, that it pays any demonstrable dividends this season.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

Is OBJ even going to be ready to play meaningful snaps this year?  Seems like these ACL's are taking longer to come back from than I remembered.  I'm a UCLA guy and the school announced this week that two of our basketball players that tore ACL's over a full year ago are still not cleared to play.  If he somehow manages to get himself fully healed by say, mid-December, he's still got to pass the physical, get himself up to gamespeed (a few weeks), learn the playbook, etc.  So, you're looking at unveiling him in the playoffs?  I'm excited about the idea of OBJ in Buffalo, but I just don't think it's likely to happen, or if it does, that it pays any demonstrable dividends this season.

I think the hope is to sign him mid-November.  Get him some practices/time with the team.  Then get him out there in mid-December for the final four games to have him ready to go for the Playoffs. 

[Big Turk]

12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah I value those picks.   I think the relative success rate they've had late in the draft is a reflection of Beane not drafting as needily on day 3.    I think there is a tendency for teams to focus on the first round pick for months and then after the emotional conclusion of that quest get a little careless and needy on day 2.    It's almost a Bills tradition at this point,  regardless of GM.   Their 2nd round track record in particular is terrible in seasons where they also have a first round pick.

 

But they will have the opportunity to acquire more of those with trade backs for volume to fill pending roster vacancies.   I could also see them trading some players they know they won't be able to extend a season early in coming offseasons.   The way they do business will naturally have to change.

 

They also do a great job of moving around by gathering extra picks when they can and then using those extra picks to move up and get guys in those rounds they target.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I think the hope is to sign him mid-November.  Get him some practices/time with the team.  Then get him out there in mid-December for the final four games to have him ready to go for the Playoffs. 

 

 Yeah, unnamed league sources believe he won't be ready until mid-December, at the earliest.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

given that he tore his ACL in mid-February, it's still a bit early

[ndirish1978]

Realistically I don't see him getting healthy soon enough to get up to speed and help any team this year, but that's just my opinion.

[DJB]

Going to come down to $$$

 

If Bills can offer Odell something satisfying then why would he choose any of those other garbage teams over Buffalo? 
 

Fingers crossed we can get this done

[HappyDays]

 

At 4:50 Mike Florio says everything he's hearing is that OBJ is coming to Buffalo, it's just a matter of time.

[Starr Almighty]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I come to this thread to get angry at how much of a teenage girl ODB is and how completely overvalued he is. 

 

ODB passed away. I also think he was a very valuable part of The Wu-Tang Clan

Edited November 2, 2022 by Starr Almighty

[GolfandBills]

Dudes knee is jello at this point.  All this hype for someone who isn’t even close to being done with his rehab 

[BillsShredder83]

Here's an excerpt that an initiative being led by kittle and Cooper kupp

 

Quote

Of the 32 teams in the NFL, 16 teams still play on artificial turf, despite the undeniable risk it poses to both players and the environment. It’s time to play smarter with Pennington.

The numbers don’t lie:

28% more non-contact lower body injuries.

32% more non-contact knee injuries.

And 69% more non-contact foot and ankle injuries occurred on turf.

Turf can get up to 60 degrees hotter than natural grass, increasing the rate at which toxic gases are released and ingested.

90% of NFL players believe artificial turf will shorten their careers."

Gives us the upper hand against Giants, Rams probably some others.

 

I've seen some rumbling over the years about it bit seems like this is really catching steam among the players

[Nextmanup]

Sal C. was on gr-55 this afternoon.

 

He mentioned that Tre and OBJ both spent a year together at LSU and are good friends.

 

So Sal asked Tre if he has been trying to sell OBJ on the Bills.

 

Tre said if you could see his text message history, you would see that he has sent OBJ about 1,500 Bills Emojis over the last many months.

 

So that's Tre and Von working on him!

 

Keep your fingers crossed; would love to see this guy show up.

 

BTW:  Sal mentioned that Beane specifically addressed OBJ today.

 

He said if the Bills think he can help the team, they'd love to have him or something like that.

 

Beane woudln't say were are going after him, nor deny that we are.

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Nextmanup

[Doc]

7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

The Bucs, Packers and Rams have all been playing abysmal.    

If that’s the entire list of suitors, he’s the Bills’ assuming he’s healthy. 

[boyst]

8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I come to this thread to get angry at how much of a teenage girl ODB is and how completely overvalued he is. 

And when miss princess OBJ doesn't get his way daddy tweets mean things to get him cut because he doesn't have scrote to back himself up and just be a man. 

[Codyny13]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Here's an excerpt that an initiative being led by kittle and Cooper kupp

 

Gives us the upper hand against Giants, Rams probably some others.

 

I've seen some rumbling over the years about it bit seems like this is really catching steam among the players

Isn’t highmark turf? I don’t think we’ve ever had natural grass.

[DJB]

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Well, much like Odell's knee I'm torn on this.

 

On the one hand you can never have too many playmakers. If the knee is up to snuff than he makes the offense better. I have no qualms about his attitude because it seems like everyone not named Baker Mayfield that has played with him absolutely loves him. And Baker is a tool, so I'll discount his feelings square away. Actually, for me it's the opposite and I feel like he would fit in extremely well with the cast of characters we already have in the locker room.

 

On the negative side I feel like this roster that we have is good enough to compete for and win a Super Bowl already. Adding Odell would shift the focus to it being all him that put us over the top if we do win it all. Also, barring an injury to the WR room I just don't see where it makes sense to add him. If we do sign him...who gets the boot? Diggs and Davis are locks. With how many GMs reportedly liked Shakir I can't see Beane subjecting him to waivers and losing him for the future for a few games of OBJ. Kumerow is of value in multiple spots as is McKenzie as a slot/gadget/returner. Odell only plays WR, and not sure they want 3 WRs that only contribute to offense. 

 

My gut feeling is that unless there is another injury to the WR room they roll with what they have being that they added a potential playmaker at the trade deadline in Hines and Odell heads in another directinon. (My top 3 guesses are Minnesota, Philly and San Francisco in that order)

[Peace Frog]

I say if he's healthy, we get him.  If anything, it'll keep KC or Philly from potentially having him.

[BillsShredder83]

14 hours ago, Codyny13 said:

Isn’t highmark turf? I don’t think we’ve ever had natural grass.

It is... I thought I'd read that it was grass, but I mightve been confusing that with the new stadium having natural grass.

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, Peace Frog said:

I say if he's healthy, we get him.  If anything, it'll keep KC or Philly from potentially having him.

With KC trading for Toney do they need him?

[blacklabel]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, much like Odell's knee I'm torn...

 

I'm all out of faith, dis is how I feels...

 

 

And at this point, I'd be down for OBJ. He's a bit of a nutsack but if he can go a little bit and they can utilize him in certain ways then go for it. 

 

Someone tell Beane I am available to guard any rogue kicking nets from attacking OBJ. 

Edited November 3, 2022 by blacklabel

[Scott7975]

13 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

It is... I thought I'd read that it was grass, but I mightve been confusing that with the new stadium having natural grass.

 

Yeah, Highmark is artificial.  The new stadium is going to be grass.

[Heels20X6]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, much like Odell's knee I'm torn on this.

 

On the one hand you can never have too many playmakers. If the knee is up to snuff than he makes the offense better. I have no qualms about his attitude because it seems like everyone not named Baker Mayfield that has played with him absolutely loves him. And Baker is a tool, so I'll discount his feelings square away. Actually, for me it's the opposite and I feel like he would fit in extremely well with the cast of characters we already have in the locker room.

 

On the negative side I feel like this roster that we have is good enough to compete for and win a Super Bowl already. Adding Odell would shift the focus to it being all him that put us over the top if we do win it all. Also, barring an injury to the WR room I just don't see where it makes sense to add him. If we do sign him...who gets the boot? Diggs and Davis are locks. With how many GMs reportedly liked Shakir I can't see Beane subjecting him to waivers and losing him for the future for a few games of OBJ. Kumerow is of value in multiple spots as is McKenzie as a slot/gadget/returner. Odell only plays WR, and not sure they want 3 WRs that only contribute to offense. 

 

My gut feeling is that unless there is another injury to the WR room they roll with what they have being that they added a potential playmaker at the trade deadline in Hines and Odell heads in another directinon. (My top 3 guesses are Minnesota, Philly and San Francisco in that order)

 

Fair points...but when he joined the Rams last year, he didn't seem to draw too much attention to himself.  He played his role and helped them get a ring.

[Mango]

I don't know why this is even a topic at this point. I was big on the "ride the horse that brought you" train early in the season. But we have been so pass happy, but inconsistent in the slot I don't know why you wouldn't. 

The contract will likely be super cheap and for a couple of months. There is nothing to lose by doing it. 

[SCBills]

The Bills have given Davis and McKenzie ample time to show we don't need OBJ.

 

-Davis, for what he is, is great..  One of the best big play WR's in the NFL.  He, however, has not shown the ability to be a reliable #2 in a pass heavy offense.

 

-McKenzie is what he is..  A speed gadget/slot.  He, however, has not shown the ability to be a reliable pure slot/#3 WR. 

 

-Outside of them we have a promising rookie in Shakir and a big body WR in Kumerow.  Both very well suited in their current roles as guys who round out the WR room.  

 

OBJ may or may not be what we hope he is... but it's worth the swing.  For those worried about chemistry, just remember that Beane talks to Josh about any big move he may make to get the temperature of the locker room.  So far, we've heard a ringing endorsement of OBJ from Allen, Von, Diggs and Tre... Not sure who else some of y'all need to hear from before this worry is assuaged. 

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, Peace Frog said:

I say if he's healthy, we get him.  If anything, it'll keep KC or Philly from potentially having him.

The fact that someone is going to add a guy of his talent "for free" (not giving anything up for him other than money) is ridiculous.  Total no brainer, if he is physically ready to go.

 

 

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The Bills have given Davis and McKenzie ample time to show we don't need OBJ.

 

-Davis, for what he is, is great..  One of the best big play WR's in the NFL.  He, however, has not shown the ability to be a reliable #2 in a pass heavy offense.

 

-McKenzie is what he is..  A speed gadget/slot.  He, however, has not shown the ability to be a reliable pure slot/#3 WR. 

 

-Outside of them we have a promising rookie in Shakir and a big body WR in Kumerow.  Both very well suited in their current roles as guys who round out the WR room.  

 

OBJ may or may not be what we hope he is... but it's worth the swing.  For those worried about chemistry, just remember that Beane talks to Josh about any big move he may make to get the temperature of the locker room.  So far, we've heard a ringing endorsement of OBJ from Allen, Von, Diggs and Tre... Not sure who else some of y'all need to hear from before this worry is assuaged. 

Well said.

I'm actually a little bit surprised that they didn't bring in a WR at the trade deadline. If it turns out there's a "wink and a nod" understanding between the Bills and OBJ and he winds up signing here, then I'll understand it more.


 

[FLFan]

17 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Sal C. was on gr-55 this afternoon.

 

He mentioned that Tre and OBJ both spent a year together at LSU and are good friends.

 

So Sal asked Tre if he has been trying to sell OBJ on the Bills.

 

Tre said if you could see his text message history, you would see that he has sent OBJ about 1,500 Bills Emojis over the last many months.

 

So that's Tre and Von working on him!

 

Keep your fingers crossed; would love to see this guy show up.

 

BTW:  Sal mentioned that Beane specifically addressed OBJ today.

 

He said if the Bills think he can help the team, they'd love to have him or something like that.

 

Beane woudln't say were are going after him, nor deny that we are.

 

 

 

Beane has said exactly the same thing regarding OBJ before, several times.  It is really up to OBJ at this point being able to demonstrate an ability to come back and play (and be productive) this year.  I think that is a long shot.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Heels20X6 said:

 

Fair points...but when he joined the Rams last year, he didn't seem to draw too much attention to himself.  He played his role and helped them get a ring.

I agree and to my point that I said that everyone not named Baker has loved him. It's not OBJ that would draw attention to himself as "The Piece that won aSB for the Bills". Rather that would of course become a media talking point. No fault of his....

[FilthyBeast]

Here's the big question if we do end up signing OBJ, who gets released for him?

 

I'll go for somewhat of a surprise and say McKenzie, not because I personally think he's a waste of roster space, but because we now have another viable return option in Hines and OBJ would have to take the lion share of the WR3/slot snaps and that's where I think you have to make a tough decision especially because you aren't going to release or sit a guy like Shakir.

[Lost]

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Here's the big question if we do end up signing OBJ, who gets released for him?

 

 

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