MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. Except he isnt. Unless you call Miller, Allen, Diggs, everyone in LA Liars. If my understanding is correct. Bills have a 2 year very incentive heavy deal on the table for OBJ. That is likely the right term and structure without seeing it. 2 years (this and Next) very incentive laden. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerx Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I have a feeling, his contract is going to be very complex with all kids of incentive bonus being abused from the likely and unlikely categories shifting cap hits and holds all over the place and possibly 3-years down the road before you are actually using it as written I don't see a 1-year deal being signed anywhere, 3-years, lots of incentives (not just because of his knee, but the CBA language and rules for the "likely" and "unlikely" incentives. A sizable chunk of the cap hit could be thrown 3 years down the road during a Super Bowl window 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. Trust the guys who define the process. They’ve earned that right. 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Except he isnt. Unless you call Miller, Allen, Diggs, everyone in LA Liars. If my understanding is correct. Bills have a 2 year very incentive heavy deal on the table for OBJ. That is likely the right term and structure without seeing it. 2 years (this and Next) very incentive laden. I’m with you here, and would love to see OBJ in a Bills uniform if he’s ready to roll. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. I think you are letting your personal opinions cloud the facts. Beckham is one of the most beloved players I have ever seen in the NFL, even by people who never played with him. And not just anyone, by the big time players...I mean hell, even Aaron Rodgers loves the guy and talks to him regularly apparently. And he doesn't like anyone. Perhaps the only player in the NFL that doesn't love OBJ is Baker Mayfield. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. I think he would be fine here. He would only be here as a rental anyway. He will be on his best behavior and do everything he can to help the Bills win a Super Bowl. It's in his best interest to do that if he wants a big payday. Also, he would get a 2nd ring. The Bills and their fans would party like never before if we win the Super Bowl. It's a win-win situation for everybody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I think it’s more than a one year deal here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. When has he ever done this? He threw a few tantrums on the sideline during his stint with the Giants. Big effin' deal. He's never been a selfish player and his teammates have, by all accounts, loved him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, DJB said: I think it’s more than a one year deal here the way to structure it is a 3 year deal with the 3rd year voidable. similar to what we did with emmanuel sanders and others. this year $2mm, next two years $8mm per with 2024 voidable and able to be restructured. spread the hit and delay it until the cap is improved. however, the cap could come down the pending economic collapse. 1 minute ago, Gugny said: When has he ever done this? He threw a few tantrums on the sideline during his stint with the Giants. Big effin' deal. He's never been a selfish player and his teammates have, by all accounts, loved him. that's where people conflate the issues of him being a prima donna vs. a selffish jerk player. he is a prima donna who loves attention. most nfl guys are and that's just how they are built, especially WR's. to me that's a turnoff but i don't need a football team full of men with boy scouts and men with integrity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: When has he ever done this? He threw a few tantrums on the sideline during his stint with the Giants. Big effin' deal. He's never been a selfish player and his teammates have, by all accounts, loved him. Tre White said he’s been texting with OBJ daily while he’s been out so I’d trust the players more than fans who have preconceived notions about a player. remember when Diggs was going to destroy this room too. That was fun. Edited November 8, 2022 by CountDorkula 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandito said: No its not. He would not fit the culture here. He is a Primadonna who puts himself first instead of the team. Ha ha, look at you. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Bandito said: Thanks. Yes he has. That is one of the reasons he is unemployed right now One. Just one example. That's all I'm asking for. Just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bandito said: Thanks. Yes he has. That is one of the reasons he is unemployed right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopelessNJBuffaloFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 There is no way he is going to come to this hot mess. Players all over the place cannot stay healthy and the further this team goes the less starters we are going to have. I would be surprised if we get out of the first round even if they make the playoffs. Not to mention we have no non blocking o line that is getting worse week by week. OB is going to Dallas or the Giants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bandito said: Does Google not work on your Wifi? This is a selfish, "look at me I can do nothing wrong" primadonna attitude. https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/2020/10/21/lsu-football-fans-furious-ncaa-obj-odell-beckham-jr-ban/3717232001/ what a monster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bandito said: Does Google not work on your Wifi? https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/2020/10/21/lsu-football-fans-furious-ncaa-obj-odell-beckham-jr-ban/3717232001/ My Google didn't search for things that have absolutely nothing to do with OBJ being a selfish player. I didn't say that he isn't a dick. My guess is that many NFL players are *****. But there's nothing to indicate that he's selfish/puts himself before the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bandito said: Thanks. Yes he has. That is one of the reasons he is unemployed right now The only reason he is unemployed is because he tore his ACL. He has more than a 1/2 dozen teams that want to sign him, including the Bills. Do you trust Beane and McDermott? Who have they brought in that’s toxic? A lot of the same stuff was said in the media about Diggs. How that working out? Do you trust the word of Von Miller? Josh Allen? Tre White? Stefon Diggs? They’ve all talked about wanting OBJ and Miller+White have raved about the type of person he is. Can you give examples of him being this prima Donna? If you are talking about a couple times where he got mad on the sidelines, Diggs and countless other WR’s have too. Just this season Diggs was pissed on the sidelines that he didn’t get the ball. Doesn’t mean he’s a prima donna. Just means he’s a fierce competitor. can you list even a single NFL player that’s talked badly about OBJ? Why does he seem so universally loved by his peers? Edited November 8, 2022 by BillsFan4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, teef said: what a monster! I'd probably kick his ass if I saw him. Despicable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Bandito said: LOL. You just admitted he is a dick. That is my point. Thanks Broseph. There is a difference between being a dick and not being a team player. This is not rocket surgery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, HopelessNJBuffaloFan said: There is no way he is going to come to this hot mess. Players all over the place cannot stay healthy and the further this team goes the less starters we are going to have. I would be surprised if we get out of the first round even if they make the playoffs. Not to mention we have no non blocking o line that is getting worse week by week. OB is going to Dallas or the Giants You are aware the Cowboys just played a month without their starting qb right 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: There is a difference between being a dick and not being a team player. This is not rocket surgery. It's a more like brain science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopelessNJBuffaloFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: You are aware the Cowboys just played a month without their starting qb right 🙄 And??? They won..... The Bills wont do the same with their backup. If you think they can or would, you are crazy. We cannot run the ball, so need to rely on our QB. Good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, HopelessNJBuffaloFan said: And??? They won..... The Bills wont do the same with their backup. If you think they can or would, you are crazy. We cannot run the ball, so need to rely on our QB. Good luck with that You seem so hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bandito said: Does Google not work on your Wifi? This is a selfish, "look at me I can do nothing wrong" primadonna attitude. https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/2020/10/21/lsu-football-fans-furious-ncaa-obj-odell-beckham-jr-ban/3717232001/ Hold on, him giving out money to college players is him being selfish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bandito said: Thanks. Yes he has. That is one of the reasons he is unemployed right now No His INJURY is why he is unemployed right now. Wow really stretched for that hot take didnt you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Do people not realize that Case Keenum is terrible? If he has to start a chunk of games, the whole season is probably lost, unless we can somehow find a way to limp into the playoffs just as healthy Josh comes back..then we could still win the SB. The problem is that depending on how long Keenum has to play, if he has to play at all, we might lose enough games to miss the playoffs! I maintain that Josh is "dinged up" but will be OK and will not miss playing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bandito said: LOL. You just admitted he is a dick. That is my point. Thanks Broseph. LOL not he didn't...wtf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, Bandito said: LOL. You just admitted he is a dick. That is my point. Thanks Broseph. Not that it matters, but you can be a dick and also be an excellent football player and a good teammate. I still play club sports in my mid 30s. I often time have teammates who I don't like personality wise who are good teammates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, HopelessNJBuffaloFan said: And??? They won..... The Bills wont do the same with their backup. If you think they can or would, you are crazy. We cannot run the ball, so need to rely on our QB. Good luck with that So what you’re saying is the Bills entire roster is terrible gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I hope Beane doesn't over think this. It's somewhat of a dice roll but it's worth it. We need to explore every option to increase our chances of winning the SB. This the most available one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 If Allen had to miss time, he and Odell could really develop a bond while OBJ likely practices 2-3 weeks before playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 With McKenzie, Knox, and Davis not living up to their expectations, this has went from “that’d be nice” to “it needs to happen.” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Down to 7th in the betting odds. Dallas the current favorite. Cowboys, Packers, Giants, Rams, Bucs all ahead. Bills tied with KC in 7th. It's betting odds so take it for what it's worth but Dallas had been getting alot of press recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: With McKenzie, Knox, and Davis not living up to their expectations, this has went from “that’d be nice” to “it needs to happen.” Re: McKittrick - he's caught 67% of his targets, averaging 9.1 yards/reception, has 3 TDs and zero fumbles. Re: Knox - he's caught 74% of his targets, averaging 9.1 yards/reception, has 2 TDs and zero fumbles. Don't confuse not living up to their expectations with not being used/targeted enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bandito said: Signs of him being a dick and not a team player. Try using Google next time. https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/why-the-packers-should-stay-away-from-obj-350 When I need a peer reviewed source, I always head to cheeseheadtv.com/blog. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bandito said: Signs of him being a dick and not a team player. Try using Google next time. https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/why-the-packers-should-stay-away-from-obj-350 facts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bandito said: Signs of him being a dick and not a team player. Try using Google next time. https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/why-the-packers-should-stay-away-from-obj-350 Im scared does that link contain the green fairy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Bandito said: Does Google not work on your Wifi? This is a selfish, "look at me I can do nothing wrong" primadonna attitude. https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/2020/10/21/lsu-football-fans-furious-ncaa-obj-odell-beckham-jr-ban/3717232001/ No. Not its not. You are trying to manufacture things now to fit your narrative that you want to paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bandito said: Signs of him being a dick and not a team player. Try using Google next time. https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/why-the-packers-should-stay-away-from-obj-350 Come on, lol, this is your "source"? I knew the moment I opened it this was a skewed opinion piece and intended hack job by the writer. But it was totally confirmed when he got to talking about his time in Cleveland and tried to claim OBJ was the problem and not Baker who is just as much garbage in Carolina with top end receiving weapons as he was in Cleveland. More importantly, after OBJ was traded all his Cleveland teammates came out in support of OBJ and said he was excellent teammate and in the locker room. He then went to LA and immediately played great when he wasn't saddled with a garbage QB and again, all his teammates raved about him in the locker room and as a teammate. You are wrong on this. The sooner you realize that the testimony of his teammates carries more weight than a biased cheeseheadTV click bait article the better because you are on a sinking ship with this current line you are taking on OBJ. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bandito said: Signs of him being a dick and not a team player. Try using Google next time. https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/why-the-packers-should-stay-away-from-obj-350 all I see is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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