gordong Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 not even a tiny bit... bills struck gold with both CB picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I think Elam is going to be an absolute monster. Great size and a physical player. Maybe he'll be the one we use to lock down elite TEs in the future. Once Tre comes back, we're going to have a very capable corner as our 5th CB. Edited September 9, 2022 by BullBuchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Thanks to the Josh's Blue Cheese call, I read the thread title as "Are you concerned about Edam?" Edited September 9, 2022 by UKBillFan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Not concerned about Elam. He was a reach in the first round. Big upside but poor technique and needs NFL development. He was never supposed to be an immediate impact starter - that was practically a consensus scouting report. He's still on track (albeit Bills got lucky with Benford). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I. Not concerned about Elam because Benford is already competent. Elam might be concerned because he might not get on field like all the other first rounders who get on field just because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 As myopic a view as anything ever posted in these parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Did I miss something ? Never heard Elam name at all yet he played plenty of snaps, I thought both rookies held up very very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 15 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Kareem Hunt did the same. Not sure that's a great endorsement but we'll see. So your saying Cook is gonna kick a woman in a hotel hallway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I choose to feel good about the fact that a sixth round pick is competing with a first round pick for playing time rather than feel bad about a first round pick having to compete with sixth round pick for playing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, julian said: Did I miss something ? Never heard Elam name at all yet he played plenty of snaps, I thought both rookies held up very very well. LA gained 193 yards across 49 called passing plays (i included the 2 yard scramble but it barely moves the needle either way). That's like 4 yards per passing play with 3 turnovers. The panthers had the worst net yards per attempt in the league at 5.0 last season (the rams were 2nd in the nfl in this category at 7.3 net yards per attempt). The defense held the 5th best passing offense in 2021 to atrocious stats, I think we're being a bit nitpicky here. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: LA gained 193 yards across 49 called passing plays (i included the 2 yard scramble but it barely moves the needle either way). That's like 4 yards per passing play with 3 turnovers. The panthers had the worst net yards per attempt in the league at 5.0 last season (the rams were 2nd in the nfl in this category at 7.3 net yards per attempt). The defense held the 5th best passing offense in 2021 to atrocious stats, I think we're being a bit nitpicky here. Yeah, thanks for adding some details to my caveman thoughts, my concern about life without White for a few games was eliminated last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, K-9 said: I choose to feel good about the fact that a sixth round pick is competing with a first round pick for playing time rather than feel bad about a first round pick having to compete with sixth round pick for playing time. Agreed, the knock on benford coming out was speed and level of competition. Speed isn't everything and projecting someone's ability against better competition is always a challenge. But he has the size teams covet, he's smart, good tackler, has ball skills - always funny to me when you list all that and then at the end the scouting report says something like "round 7 - priority UDFA". Just now, julian said: Yeah, thanks for adding some details to my caveman thoughts, my concern about life without White for a few games was eliminated last night Helps the secondary when the d line obliterates the opposition. The biggest miscue that i saw in the game was the long play to Kupp, and from what i could tell that appeared to be on Benford. I think it was a cover 2 beater flag route type of thing, so the safety can't get over there but Benford was basically in no mans land. Still - good game all around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: I choose to feel good about the fact that a sixth round pick is competing with a first round pick for playing time rather than feel bad about a first round pick having to compete with sixth round pick for playing time. Not to mention CB is the hardest position to translate college to the pros, outside of QB historically right? Folks have to remember the Bills don't draft in the top 10 anymore. Guys like Tre coming out of the box great are RARE. If you are drafting blue chip positions like DE and CB in the last 3-4 picks of the first round, they are not normally gonna come out at be stars. If they were, they would be top 10 picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 When a kid with NFL bloodlines is considered raw, it does make you wonder. But maybe his uncle or dad didn’t bring their work home. Who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 As I’ve stated before. I didn’t think Elam was very good in college. But there is no staff I would choose to work with a db over the Bills staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Some teams just have a knack for identifying and recruiting talent at certain positions. Steelers know WRs. Whether it’s Coach, Leslie and or scouting, Bills know DBs. I expect Elam to develop into a top shelf starting caliber CB. From what I’ve seen he looks at times totally outstanding in man coverage. We will see how he adapts to zone when required to do so. I suspect Tre will be a big help to him. Bedford has been impressive in his consistency. He can play at this level. He’s got a good head and is physical. A football player. On Kupp’s best YAC play last night Bedford not only beat the block but seemed to be using it as a screen. He disengaged cleanly when he had to and was in great position to make the play. Don’t ask me to explain how Kupp managed to run through the tackle. I guess thats just what he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Why are you pretending that there is an issue? Elam is doing very well by all accounts. By the way, your screen name has a certain irony…, Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 After one game? No If we're having the same conversation 8-12 weeks from now? Then I'll be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Remember those huge plays he gave up last night against the potent Rams' passing offense? Remember how out of place he looked on an NFL field? Nope. Me neither. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 If you can't be a starting corner in 3 whole months then it's time to move on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I heard that Allen guy we have is terrible. I mean, look at his first regular season game. 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Context Einstein, context. Elam played late in the game when the game was over and the D as a whole was letting Stafford play pitch and catch for short yardage gains. Let's just give it some time to see how things play out. Im not sue that helps your argument as much as you think it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 NO 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Im not sue that helps your argument as much as you think it does. I feel Bills were mixing and playing matchups. Its a new season and everyone is finding their role and place My hero Taron Johnson had a rough game but i am hardly ready to think his next game might not be his best yet ! Go Bills Laundry ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Maybe delete this thread and get back to work remembering how you achieved cold fusion that one time. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Can't have enough Good DB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Worried ? ... C'mon man, not even a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Einstein said: With how good Benford looks, and with Elam’s contributions coming partially on special teams tonight, it leads the mind to wonder what other 1st round pick we could have acquired rather than a DB that is a depth player in a backfield that is missing it’s starter. More concerned about your post quality. I think better question is how they will handle gameday roster, and if Cam Lewis sticks around, once Tre returns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Im not sue that helps your argument as much as you think it does. This you? On 7/5/2022 at 7:23 PM, Einstein said: Rams have better WR’s (Kupp is top 3 and Robinson is top 10). O-line (one of the best in the NFL though losing Whitworth stings), D-Line (Aaron Donald, do I have to say more?), CB’s (Ramsey and Hill) and LB’s (Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner). They really do have a pro bowl roster. You called Allen Robinson a top 10 WR this offseason. I think that alone completely discounts any football opinion you have. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Agree Jackson and White. But i don't see the Bills playing Tre till he gets at least 4 weeks practice in...so i think they will take him off PUP end of WK 4, activate him bye week, plays the Sunday nighter VS the Pack... Absolutely insane timeline hopefully Edited September 10, 2022 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Benford had an easier transition based on what he played in college. Wasn't like Elam played poorly in his snaps. What a find Benford looks. They did it with Levi and have done again with Dane. But they both had to be brought along slowly. Benford is more physically gifted than both and hits the ground running. Very exciting. White, Jackson, Benford, Elam we might end up being four legit players deep at outside corner. which is very rare and incredibly valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 20 hours ago, stevestojan said: We just dominated the world champs, while giving them the ball 4 times. I was there. It was awesome. Give us 24 hours to just enjoy it? Bills didn't punt. That softens the blow of the TOs. A punt is a TO technically. A change of possesion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: You called Allen Robinson a top 10 WR this offseason. I think that alone completely discounts any football opinion you have. Remind me in 17 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: Remind me in 17 weeks. I'm reminding you now. Robinson will average more than 1 reception and 12 yards per game but he is not going to be a top 10 WR. It was a laughable take. Also every other position group that you claimed the Rams were better than us, our group performed better last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Ah, the ole hindsight is 20/20 thread. Did you ever say who you would have drafted? I’m lazy and don’t want to read all posts to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: So your saying Cook is gonna kick a woman in a hotel hallway? dumb people do dumb things...and no not racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Had a nice game imo on MNF. Will likely start Sunday assuming Dane is out. Interesting that he was essentially drafted to match up with this type of WR with his speed and size, and ability to play man (even if the Bills play zone this week, all zone eventually turns to man with a hill/waddle WR. We did not have anyone like him previously. Should be a great early test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Had a nice game imo on MNF. Will likely start Sunday assuming Dane is out. Interesting that he was essentially drafted to match up with this type of WR with his speed and size, and ability to play man (even if the Bills play zone this week, all zone eventually turns to man with a hill/waddle WR. We did not have anyone like him previously. Should be a great early test. Elam has looked pretty good when the ball comes his direction. So has Benford for that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Had a nice game imo on MNF. Will likely start Sunday assuming Dane is out. Interesting that he was essentially drafted to match up with this type of WR with his speed and size, and ability to play man (even if the Bills play zone this week, all zone eventually turns to man with a hill/waddle WR. We did not have anyone like him previously. Should be a great early test. whats his 40 time i forget? is it impressive, basically? wasn't that CB KC took considerd the fast one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: whats his 40 time i forget? is it impressive, basically? wasn't that CB KC took considerd the fast one? 4.39. He’s bigger and faster than Mcduffie and played in the SEC vs the pac 12 Edited September 21, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: whats his 40 time i forget? is it impressive, basically? wasn't that CB KC took considerd the fast one? 4.39 quick but not the same speed as hill. hills 40 time was 4.29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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