GETTOTHE50 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 he was suppose to be a 'mauler' in the run game. he was very disappointing here. surprised we even got a 5th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: You’re not looking at this the right way. Yes, he was a 2nd round pick and we figured out that he’s not good enough to start pretty quickly. It was a miss and every GM misses. Every GM doesn’t, however, get value back for their missed picks. Usually, you just have to cut guys when you miss. That makes this a win. Respectfully, YOU’RE not looking at this the right way. Beane has not yet gotten on-field contributions from any of his second round picks as a GM. Zero. That hopefully will change this year (though the idea being floated around here that they’re hiding Cook in the preseason is hilarious), but so far we’ve got the Outgoing Cody Ford, Epanesa in his make-or-break season, another backup edge in Basham, and a part-time running back who they drafted because they got spurned at the altar by McKissic, a dime-a-dozen RFA RB. Beane needs to stop throwing second round picks in the trash and he needs to stop giving stupid contracts and raises to guys like Star before we can declare him an “amazing wizard God-man.” 1 5 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Meh. Based on Dawkins' comments on Saturday I think some of it may well be down to lack of effort and professionalism from Cody. Though no doubt it wasn't a good pick. Oh, I didn't hear about those comments. That is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Another “W” for Brandon Beane. Cody Ford stinks. He’s looked better under Kromer but he isn’t good. A 5th is a great return for him. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 947 said: Boettger is coming off a torn achilles, I honestly doubt he'll play again. Very few linemen have played again after that injury, and the ones that did were shadows of their old self. With Ford gone & Mancz possibly out long term, I suspect we'll be looking at cuts for a replacement OG. Your point is well taken. They have had more success treating these injuries with earlier weight bearing activities rather than complete rest. I have faith in the Bills medical staff, so it will all depend on Boettger. Let's assume at the very least he doesn't come back this year. In addition to Hart and Van Roten, according to Tasker and Brown on One Bills Live, they are also high on Alex Anderson the undrafted free agent. Edited August 22, 2022 by jkeerie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talleywhacker Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I wouldnt turn my nose up at a 5th round return. Theres a wr the Bills drafted this year in the 5th who looks like a real gem, Khalil Shakir. Beane missed on Ford but Shakir looks like a keeper. And I believe that Kyle Williams was also a 5th rounder. He's WOF material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Now get another 5th for Crowder plz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Wyatt Teller flashbacks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Talleywhacker said: I wouldnt turn my nose up at a 5th round return. Theres a wr the Bills drafted this year in the 5th who looks like a real gem, Khalil Shakir. Beane missed on Ford but Shakir looks like a keeper. And I believe that Kyle Williams was also a 5th rounder. He's WOF material. Milano in the 5th too if I remember correctly 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I've never thought Thad Brown was a media caliber starter. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Hey admit your mistake and get something for it. It happens. I’ll take missing on a G instead of a qb. also, Arizona is just rebuilding Kyler’s Oklahoma team. That little guy runs that Franchise. He is probably making trades on madden and telling the GM what to do. Edited August 22, 2022 by C.Biscuit97 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board. Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster. Josh Allen is “amazing.” Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out. Yet Beane is considered among the very best at his job league wide, “boat load” is a bit of hyperbole if one is to be honest, “hand full” would be a good deal more accurate. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Meh. Based on Dawkins' comments on Saturday I think some of it may well be down to lack of effort and professionalism from Cody. Though no doubt it wasn't a good pick. I wonder if after those public comments from Dawkins, Beane didn't approach him like, "bub, do me a favor..."? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Glad to get anything in return for him at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I can't believe I'm saying this but I think this locks in Bobby Hart's roster spot as a backup guard. He has apparently looked pretty good at that spot this offseason. Ha .. falling into the Beane trap .. soon to come message from Bills PR .. Bobby Hart traded for a 6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Day 1 and 2 picks have been a mixed bag, but this Front Office straight up owns Day 3 - I'm good with trading away fringe OL depth for a 5th round pick. (Braces for Bobby Hart to be the back-up Guard) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Correct; let’s save “wizard” for cases like me - divorcing my wife that was 8 years older than me and marrying my current wife who is 8 years younger and filthy rich. I'd reserve the term wizard for the above edit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Another “W” for Brandon Beane. Cody Ford stinks. He’s looked better under Kromer but he isn’t good. A 5th is a great return for him. Agreed and it’s good kick the tires for Zona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: There goes one of the whipping boys. Wish him the best in the desert. Running out of players to hate for some of y’all. So who is left on the message board hate list? Edmunds still in the lead, by a lot OJ Howard I see is somehow on the list without seeing a regular season snap yet. Moss gaining some steam Taiwan and Kumerow for sure if they make the team Elam reserving a spot for later in the season? Epenesa is a trendy name Moss is losing steam in whipping boy status I think Elam gaining steam Edmunds holding steady losing Haack hurts but we will find a replacement 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Sorry Cody, but.... There is no Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 947 said: Boettger is coming off a torn achilles, I honestly doubt he'll play again. Very few linemen have played again after that injury, and the ones that did were shadows of their old self. With Ford gone & Mancz possibly out long term, I suspect we'll be looking at cuts for a replacement OG. Brown is still recovering too, so we’re suddenly down 3 depth OL (Brown, Mancz, Ford )+ Boettger. I guess getting a 5th next year promotes excitement, but the timing is unfortunate. Thankfully, Kromer is here. Edited August 22, 2022 by hemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, FireChans said: LMAO OUR LONG TIME NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER Lets not forget Edmunds... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Moss is losing steam in whipping boy status I think Elam gaining steam Edmunds holding steady losing Haack hurts but we will find a replacement Most of the flack for Haack, Moss and Edmunds has been justified. Though I think its a little overboard on Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, HansLanda said: This probably won't be the last Beane does...The vultures are already circling waiting for our cuts. I wonder what the odds are that we actually use that pick vs using it as a chip to move around. That is Bean’s M.O. Keep picking up those little chips to use to get that one guy they like but don’t think he will drop all the way to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Remember too that Ike Boettger is on IR. When he comes back, likely whoever takes Cody's spot will be demoted. If anyone knows how the rehab going it would be Beane and his boys. I hope it works out that way. As to the trade. All the Beane haters (yes, they are still out there) would say the following: If Beane released Ford at cutdown: Bad pick but Beane should have got at least a 7th for him! Brandon is constantly learning his job as any good GM will do. I'm sure he learned something about the Cody Ford pick and will avoid that going forward the best he can. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, hemma said: Let’s hope Mantz’s injury was not too bad or we may suddenly look a bit light on the OL. Where was discussion on Mantz getting hurt? Can't find anything. Would have assumed 5 plus threads started for a back up lineman injured by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: But, but, but… I was told that Aaron Kromer had reformed him into a serviceable player… He may have. Being a serviceable player and being traded from this team are not mutually exclusive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Hey admit your mistake and get something for it. It happens. I’ll take missing on a G instead of a qb. also, Arizona is just rebuilding Kyler’s Oklahoma team. That little guy runs that Franchise. He is probably making trades on madden and telling the GM what to do. The best GMs "miss" every single year. The good ones leave themselves enough flexibility to recover and get out of it with the highest return possible. Beane is very good at getting out of his mistakes. Edited August 22, 2022 by Malazan 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: He was teammates with Kyler Murray in college. AZ GM Steve Keim: "... so, how is Ford's attitude?" Kyler Murray: "I think his attitude's just fine..." 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Where was discussion on Mantz getting hurt? Can't find anything. Would have assumed 5 plus threads started for a back up lineman injured by now Just happened awhile ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: But, but, but… I was told that Aaron Kromer had reformed him into a serviceable player… He did... They didn't have to cut him, did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: AZ GM Steve Keim: "... so, how is Ford's attitude?" Kyler Murray: "I think his attitude's just fine..." Beane: "Well, we never had to insert a study clause in his contract so.. that seems like a big step for you guys." Edited August 22, 2022 by Malazan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Augie said: I wonder what the odds are that we actually use that pick vs using it as a chip to move around. That is Bean’s M.O. Keep picking up those little chips to use to get that one guy they like but don’t think he will drop all the way to him. If McBeane covet a player and is slotted high on the Bills draft board he will make a deal and pull the trigger...I think he keeps those draft picks like poker chips to sweeten any deal pot. I think he is very saaavy player. Edited August 22, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Another “W” for Brandon Beane. Cody Ford stinks. He’s looked better under Kromer but he isn’t good. A 5th is a great return for him. I guess it is good to get some return, but Cody Ford started out as a 2nd round pick, and didn't we even trade up for him? I don't think you get to claim a "W" if you buy a $5k state of the art TV, find out that key features don't work correctly, alternate between sending it for repairs or using it without those key features, and then, just when it appears it might finally work correctly, you sell it for $500 on Facebook Marketplace. I mean, yea! you for getting some return for it but... Edited August 22, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think a 5th is a good return for a bust. Well stated and to the point,👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beane traded UP in the 2019 draft to pick Ford, with DK Metcalf still on the board. Beane then traded away Wyatt Teller in part because of Ford’s presence on the roster. Josh Allen is “amazing.” Beane is a very good GM who has made boatloads of mistakes, Ford being one that definitely stands out. What does 2019 have to do with trading a crappy Cody ford for a 5th rd pick? It has nothing to do with it, unless you’re Badol or ScottLaw. Every GREAT GM has made boatloads of mistake. EVERY one. There are no exceptions. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Bottom line now is Beane is up to $5M in cap space and has 5th next year. Better than cutting a guy who really doesn't want to put in the work to play well in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Respectfully, YOU’RE not looking at this the right way. Beane has not yet gotten on-field contributions from any of his second round picks as a GM. Zero. That hopefully will change this year (though the idea being floated around here that they’re hiding Cook in the preseason is hilarious), but so far we’ve got the Outgoing Cody Ford, Epanesa in his make-or-break season, another backup edge in Basham, and a part-time running back who they drafted because they got spurned at the altar by McKissic, a dime-a-dozen RFA RB. Beane needs to stop throwing second round picks in the trash and he needs to stop giving stupid contracts and raises to guys like Star before we can declare him an “amazing wizard God-man.” C'mon, Coach, this is almost rising to the level of trolling. TAKEN AS A WHOLE there is absolutely no way to view Brandon Beane's tenure as the Bills' GM as anything other than an unmitigated success. This sort of cherry-picking drags you down. "Stop throwing 2nd round picks in the trash" - Jesus, man. When I listen to NFL "experts" all I hear is that the Bills have the best and deepest roster in the NFL. What do you hear? 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Brandon Beane turns 2nd round pick into 5th round pick. Bills fans: 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, eball said: C'mon, Coach, this is almost rising to the level of trolling. TAKEN AS A WHOLE there is absolutely no way to view Brandon Beane's tenure as the Bills' GM as anything other than an unmitigated success. This sort of cherry-picking drags you down. "Stop throwing 2nd round picks in the trash" - Jesus, man. When I listen to NFL "experts" all I hear is that the Bills have the best and deepest roster in the NFL. What do you hear? I am not the one calling Beane a “genius wizard God-man” - he’s a very good GM. Period. He ain’t the best; he’s far from the worst. That’s ok and maybe we should just accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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