Training Camp practice 7/24

[smuvtalker]

25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

McKenzie's 8 regular season fumbles on ST's in his brief season and a piece in Denver was one of the worst stretches a player has been allowed to have as a returner.    He fumbled a bunch more in the preaseasons too.   You can't give that dude much of a leash.........he's an all-time-worst kinda' fumbler.

 

Dang, I didn't realize he fumbled THAT many times.... sheesh.   I agree with you on McDermott needing to keep him on a short leash, but I'm praying maybe he's put that behind him, because when the ball is in his hands, he's electric....his speed alone adds an extra element to the offense....

 

Question, was it McKenzie who fumbled the kickoff vs the Colts, when nobody touched him?  I can't remember if that was him or someone else.  I just remember how much of a momentum killer it was, and felt like it basically ended the game for us at that point...

[Mattymafia]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Tommy Doyle at Guard is interesting. 

[eball]

49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Astro notes said Josh threw the pick 6 to Settle. Others said it was Keenum. Was there more than one or someone is off

Apparently Astro got it wrong. While his notes in the past were quite good, it almost looks like he has read his press clippings and now tries to be cute rather than just reporting what he sees. 
 

[TBBills]

5 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

If he can keep that hang time consistently it will improve his chances of making the team 

Haack is the one who is in danger of not making the team.

[wppete]

15 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

Something tells me Bernard will have an impact. I know little about him, but all the comments and everything written about him indicates he’s ‘a baller’ who can play bigger than his physical size.

 

It’ll be interesting to see how he’s used in the Bills’ defensive schemes.

 

Could he make a position change to be an eventual replacement for one of our veteran safeties? 

 

Could he be an undersized pit bull like a London Fletcher or Sam Mills? 
 

He’s one of the newbies I’ll be following closely, hoping he’s the next ‘unicorn’.

 

I agree with you, I think he will make an impact. From what I’ve seen and read his comparable is Matt Milano, same size and playing style. I heard Bernard in an interview say that he studied alot of Matt Milanos playing style during his time at Baylor. 
 

 

[HappyDays]

For those worried about the outside WR depth, the Bills clearly think the slot WRs can fit in there as needed. How successfully remains to be seen. But that is the plan.

 

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by HappyDays

[stevewin]

Question for anyone who has parked in people's yards outside the campus.  I was thinking of bringing a wheelchair for my Dad when we go next week - are there sidewalks etc where a wheelchair can be easily navigated.  Would prefer this time to park there instead of dealing with the stupid school bus.  Also - is there an ADA section set up near the practice field - I've never taken notice in the past. 

[auburnbillsbacker]

3 hours ago, BTB said:

Cafeteria food?  I’d be shocked if the same cooks who serve slop to the students are the same ones feeding the Bills. 

There dining hall food is really good.  I bet it's the same food the students eat. 

[78thealltimegreat]

25 minutes ago, eball said:

Apparently Astro got it wrong. While his notes in the past were quite good, it almost looks like he has read his press clippings and now tries to be cute rather than just reporting what he sees. 
 

Yeh it was Keenum who by all accounts had a rough day 

[Shaw66]

31 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

 

 

Question, was it McKenzie who fumbled the kickoff vs the Colts, when nobody touched him?  I can't remember if that was him or someone else.  I just remember how much of a momentum killer it was, and felt like it basically ended the game for us at that point...

Yes, I believe it was.  

 

Some guys give me confidence when I see them back there. 

 

McKenzie doesn't. 

[BillsFan4]

https://buffalofambase.com/2022/07/24/buffalo-bills-training-camp-tweets-july-24/
Buffalo Bills Training Camp Tweets: July 24
 

Seems like a really nice resource for all the day’s training camp tweets.

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by BillsFan4

[TBBills]

9 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said:

There dining hall food is really good.  I bet it's the same food the students eat. 

They use the facility but have their own cooks using it. Bills have special healthy foods cooked for them.

Edited July 24, 2022 by TBBills

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

[Doc]

34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

For those worried about the outside WR depth, the Bills clearly think the slot WRs can fit in there as needed. How successfully remains to be seen. But that is the plan.

 

Thanks for finally providing the answer to my earlier question.  And am glad to see they're playing Shakir outside.  They should just keep him there.

[Rico]

44 minutes ago, eball said:

Apparently Astro got it wrong. While his notes in the past were quite good, it almost looks like he has read his press clippings and now tries to be cute rather than just reporting what he sees. 
 

Settle probably picked it off OVER THE MIDDLE.

[SectionC3]

50 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

Dang, I didn't realize he fumbled THAT many times.... sheesh.   I agree with you on McDermott needing to keep him on a short leash, but I'm praying maybe he's put that behind him, because when the ball is in his hands, he's electric....his speed alone adds an extra element to the offense....

 

Question, was it McKenzie who fumbled the kickoff vs the Colts, when nobody touched him?  I can't remember if that was him or someone else.  I just remember how much of a momentum killer it was, and felt like it basically ended the game for us at that point...

Yes.  It was McKenzie. 

[716er]

 A couple of my thoughts from camp today...

• Gabe Davis had an incredible catch in the end-zone. A perfect throw from Josh. Could have just been the plays being run but I noticed Davis was streaking deep every time Josh threw the ball to someone else. Davis seemed to be showing off his new gear - was chirping a lot with the CBs after every rep
• Tim Settle's pick 6 was a beauty. He's also damn fast for a big guy.
• Bernard made Knox look like Robert Royal all day. Not a good practice by Knox. Bernard on the other hand looked like a Milano clone - except when he needed to cover a RB out of the backfield. He was burned a couple times on sweeps to the left. Cook once and I think Singletary.
• Watched Elam a lot. Ball was hardly thrown his way. 
• Von looks as good as advertised
• Josh had a couple inaccurate throws near the sidelines but by the end of practice looked like the all-pro we know
• Punt god can kick it

[astb41]

really nice to be reading training camp day 1 reports today compared to 4+ years ago, ie. living and dying with every EJ Manuel pass attempt. #neverforget

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

One name I haven't seen mentioned in the this thread is OJ Howard.  Did he get in much and do anything?

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, smuvtalker said:

Dang, I didn't realize he fumbled THAT many times.... sheesh.   I agree with you on McDermott needing to keep him on a short leash, but I'm praying maybe he's put that behind him, because when the ball is in his hands, he's electric....his speed alone adds an extra element to the offense....

 

Question, was it McKenzie who fumbled the kickoff vs the Colts, when nobody touched him?  I can't remember if that was him or someone else.  I just remember how much of a momentum killer it was, and felt like it basically ended the game for us at that point...

 

Flashbacks to our talking points last season...when it was also a bad idea. I love McKenzie but don't want him anywhere near the returner position. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I wonder if Bernard eats into Edmunds snaps on 3rd down and obvious passing situations.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, smuvtalker said:

Dang, I didn't realize he fumbled THAT many times.... sheesh.   I agree with you on McDermott needing to keep him on a short leash, but I'm praying maybe he's put that behind him, because when the ball is in his hands, he's electric....his speed alone adds an extra element to the offense....

 

Question, was it McKenzie who fumbled the kickoff vs the Colts, when nobody touched him?  I can't remember if that was him or someone else.  I just remember how much of a momentum killer it was, and felt like it basically ended the game for us at that point...

 

McKenzie has fumbled a total of 10 times in his career.  6 his first season with Denver (2017) and 2 with Buffalo in (2018).

In his last 3 seasons with Buffalo, he has 2 fumbles.

 

He has fumble issues, and he knows it too.  Let's see how much work he is putting into improving and whether it's paying off.

 

All the PR guys fighting for the job have 2 extremely different punters to work with this summer and the best performer "this year" will hopefully get the job.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

McKenzie has fumbled a total of 10 times in his career.  6 his first season with Denver (2017) and 2 with Buffalo in (2018).

In his last 3 seasons with Buffalo, he has 2 fumbles.

 

He has fumble issues, and he knows it too.  Let's see how much work he is putting into improving and whether it's paying off.

 

All the PR guys fighting for the job have 2 extremely different punters to work with this summer and the best performer "this year" will hopefully get the job.

If you break it down per touch that’s pretty scary.

[Beast]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I wonder if Bernard eats into Edmunds snaps on 3rd down and obvious passing situations.

 

 

 

Then the Bills should trade Edmunds now because that is what he excells at. He's one of the best in the league at taking the middle of the field away.

Edited July 24, 2022 by Beast

[nosejob]

4 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Man, there’s been A LOT of praise coming from Bernard, his speed, and his coverage skills, stretching all the way back to rookie minicamp. Ideally he’d play Milano’s position in the 4-2-5, but if he continues to progress he’ll have to find a role on the field. Maybe that means taking Taron Johnson off and running a 4-3 more often, I don’t know. Taron is a CB with a LB mentality so we’ve been able to get away with running 70% nickel. 

......But the bigger backs kill us. Taron cannot bring them down and they're usually in 3rd gear by the time he can close.

If McFrazier can't prepare for what is obviously coming from the likes of Pitt,. Balt. ,Cincy Tenn. as well as everyone else, we may see twice as many of the Colts, N.E outcomes. Bernard is gonna make a huge difference....providing Frazier is not too stuck in his ways or McD is too timid to take over.

 

BTW, 70% nickel will kill us in the 1st 4 games. 2/3s of the middle of the field to Milano's left will be the target area and even though I'm expecting....and very grateful for the Dline additions, 4 guys can't stop 6 and a back against a team Hell bent on running and T.O.P.

 

Another tactic I expect to see is timing passes against us. Teams are gonna try to unload quick to backs to beat our improved pass rush. We gotta run a 4-3 and even with Miller, we're gonna need to blitz more. 4-3 can disguise Milano blitzing.

Edited July 24, 2022 by nosejob

[Buffalo_Stampede]

18 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Then the Bills should trade Edmunds now because that is what he excells at. He's one of the best in the league at taking the middle of the field away.

He’s not graded well in close coverage but we do assume he eats up space with his length.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

Went to camp today, took my father who turns 98 in 3 weeks. Was a little scared if it would be too hard for him, he reluctantly brought his cane with him when I insisted. We had no problems at all. Leaving one of the staff offered us a ride to the front but he refused. Then we were in the back of a long line to get on a bus but he refused. That time I insisted, he said "No, that's ok, I can wait." I said, "Thank you, yes, please take us to the front of the line to get on the bus." Then, a nice person in the front row sitting across from her husband and young son said, "Take their seat, they can walk to the back of the bus." Although my father insists on independence and that he can do whatever, I very much appreciate not having to make sure he doesn't trip while walking through a bus.

 

I think it four years ago or so he tripped on one of the rubber things that cover the power cords going to WGR's tent. He was looking at the tent and didn't see the rubber thing, tripped, hit his head and hand on the ground and had a cut on his head. It was a bummer way to start the session.

 

And, I have four tickets to next Saturday's practice and can't make it. First one to PM me I'll give them to. Of course, I've never used PM here, so not convinced I'll even see the response.

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Will McDermott take them on a pre dawn run at like 5am tomorrow to some famous site and tell them if they don't come together right now then they will never come together like Remember the Titans?

 

That's all I want to know

"Run it up Hermin.....leave no doubt!"

6 hours ago, whorlnut said:

I said it all off-season…Dane Jackson is a lot better than many gave him credit for. He’s not going down without a fight. 

This is good news because If I had to take a guess Tre does not start the season.....cannot afford to be giving away games.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

McKenzie's 8 regular season fumbles on ST's in his brief season and a piece in Denver was one of the worst stretches a player has been allowed to have as a returner.    He fumbled a bunch more in the preaseasons too.   You can't give that dude much of a leash.........he's an all-time-worst kinda' fumbler.

 

if you just look at his fumbles, it actually understates how bad he has been. He misplays a ton of balls too, which had led to near “touches” and muffs. It’s less of a fumbling issue with him, and more of a decision making problem. 

[SoMAn]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

I agree with you, I think he will make an impact. From what I’ve seen and read his comparable is Matt Milano, same size and playing style. I heard Bernard in an interview say that he studied alot of Matt Milanos playing style during his time at Baylor. 
 

 

I had the idea that Milano was bigger, but you’re right- they’re about the same size.  

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Man, there’s been A LOT of praise coming from Bernard, his speed, and his coverage skills, stretching all the way back to rookie minicamp. Ideally he’d play Milano’s position in the 4-2-5, but if he continues to progress he’ll have to find a role on the field. Maybe that means taking Taron Johnson off and running a 4-3 more often, I don’t know. Taron is a CB with a LB mentality so we’ve been able to get away with running 70% nickel. 

People were so wrapped up draft time in finding the Edmunds replacement that they didnt get Beane took this kid because he is a BEAST.   In McD's defense linebackers have to COVER

[whorlnut]

25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

"Run it up Hermin.....leave no doubt!"

This is good news because If I had to take a guess Tre does not start the season.....cannot afford to be giving away games.

You’re missing my point, but ok…

[Warcodered]

Thought it was a joke, clicked on the picture to blow up to full size....it actually is.

Edited July 24, 2022 by Warcodered

[scuba guy]

4 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

You'd be surprised. 

 

Some of the college cafeterias have pretty good food and at least 7-8 stations of variety.

 

It's not like when I went to college 

Sorry gotta do it

 

Rw and sjf are both ranked in the US as top 10 schools for best meals and selection.

 

Rw has individual cook stations were the chefs actually cook meals for you. 

 

And the se staff that cooks for students also cooks for the players some do opt out for other meals.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[maddenboy]

9 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

This doesnt even need a caption or subtitles

 

Same with Jim Mora in his Colts sweater

[Mat68]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Wallace was dusted vs Kc not Jackson.  Elam is a net positive over Wallace imo.  Elam, Jackson, Johnson is a winning secondary imo.  Add White its Elite.

[Warcodered]

 

[scuba guy]

3 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

I work at SJFC we have the top dinning hall and services in the state. Trust me the food is legit and I’m sure the players don’t mind it.

Thank you just made a comment to another poster

[The Wiz]

9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Thought it was a joke, clicked on the picture to blow up to full size....it actually is.

Proof that Edmunds is average.  Can't even catch a bullet. 😈