BillsfaninSB Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: We have no details about the woman, that I know of at least. Could’ve been his assistant which in that case would make perfect sense as to why she was in the car. Worst assistant ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Here's the unfortunate conclusion to this story. Unfortunate that this had to come out, doesn't really change the tragedy perspective on his side, but maybe it'll help the driver a little or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: We have no details about the woman, that I know of at least. Could’ve been his assistant which in that case would make perfect sense as to why she was in the car. don’t the additional reports that came out today qualify as some “knowledge of the situation?” Assisting him with…what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Unfortunate that this had to come out, doesn't really change the tragedy perspective on his side, but maybe it'll help the driver a little or something. No it doesnt change the tragedy but maybe, just maybe some drunk wil think before they drink to such excess away from where they are staying and as you allude to, I have to believe if makes the truck driver feel a lot better and now I cant believe anyone would try to sue him/her/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Unfortunate that this had to come out, doesn't really change the tragedy perspective on his side, but maybe it'll help the driver a little or something. The whole thing is so unfortunate, but I agree that if it helps the driver and the driver’s loved ones, it is positive information. Other than that, maybe it can serve as one more cautionary tale thrown on top of the mountain of warnings that came before it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Assisting him with…what? @JoPoy88 must believe it's a strange coincidence his neighbor's kids look like the milkman. Edited May 24, 2022 by FireChans 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: We have no details about the woman, that I know of at least. Could’ve been his assistant which in that case would make perfect sense as to why she was in the car. don’t the additional reports that came out today qualify as some “knowledge of the situation?” I was referring to saying it was addiction related. That's ignorant unless I missed the report that said he was an alcoholic. That's like saying anyone who ever got drunk is an alcoholic. That was my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: The report also showed Haskins' urine samples tested positive for ketamine and norketamine. Did anyone check to see if person he got in fight with drove a dump truck? I have been given ketamine before with dental work and had to be driven home. No way could I have been driving. Ketamine (Special K) has been used recreationally at clubs and raves since the 1990s. The 60-90 minute period where the drug is strongest is known as a K-hole. After 2+ hours motor skills return to almost normal,but mentally may still be in a bit of a fog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I was referring to saying it was addiction related. That's ignorant unless I missed the report that said he was an alcoholic. That's like saying anyone who ever got drunk is an alcoholic. That was my point. yea, I don’t think we know enough day to day… but there have been a few indications he likes to drink/party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I wouldn't be so quick to brand him without having any knowledge of the situation normal people dont have 3x legal limit in their blood this early in the morning. nor do they take horse tranquilizers at the same time, and then drive, likely on no sleep and drinking straight through. thats addict behavior if ive ever seen it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, iccrewman112 said: you are describing the movie Hustlers starring Jennifer Lopez. Yup. That's what goes down in that area where he wandered off the road. Very high end strip joints. It's a big thing in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale and even some here in Tampa. My wife was in nursing and heard rumors about nurses getting paid thousands to train dancers/escorts how to administer ketamine so it would not do damage but knock the person out, especially with enough alcohol. Dudes get rolled at clubs and strip joints all the time in Miami. Especially the high rollers who stroll in wearing expensive jewelry with large credit card limits. They run up the cards in the club for thousands at a time, take watches and rings. And if they can get the guys to some hotel or another place, they get even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: Ketamine (Special K) has been used recreationally at clubs and raves since the 1990s. The 60-90 minute period where the drug is strongest is known as a K-hole. After 2+ hours motor skills return to almost normal,but mentally may still be in a bit of a fog And you know this how?!? [kidding, kidding 😅] 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Sad end to a wasted career. Never had his head on straight in WAS and was relegated to scrub QB almost immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 When I read the toxicology report on PFT yesterday and that he had been with another female, other than his wife, around the time of his death it made me get that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. I know these guys are mostly young, rich, and try to "live it up", but all of the events leading to his death just make me think about his life choices in general and where they can lead. It's sad to see unfold and his life is now over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Maybe he was trying to walk home to avoid driving drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Can't really be sad about it since this is what he chose to do. I feel bad for the person that hit him more than Dwayne himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, HappyDays said: Here's the unfortunate conclusion to this story. It's crazy cause wasn't he on the way to work out with Steelers players or something? It's unbelievable he'd be able to function at a high level being that drunk. Edited May 24, 2022 by JerseyBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: It's crazy cause wasn't he on the way to work out with Steelers players or something? It's unbelievable he'd be able to function at a high level being that drunk. I don't think anyone is playing football with a .24, that is drunk off your azz. Maybe really experience alcoholics can function that drunk? Tend to doubt it, the events that transpired kind of prove that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: It's crazy cause wasn't he on the way to work out with Steelers players or something? It's unbelievable he'd be able to function at a high level being that drunk. Was on way to airport flying back to Pittsburgh after working out with other Steelers players in Florida Edited May 24, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Was on way to airport flying back to Pittsburgh after working out with other Steelers players in Florida In reality he wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 14 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: We have no details about the woman, that I know of at least. Could’ve been his assistant which in that case would make perfect sense as to why she was in the car. Then she should have been assisting instead of the guy on Ketamine 14 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: don’t the additional reports that came out today qualify as some “knowledge of the situation?” No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, TBBills said: In reality he wasn't. In reality where was he going then? All the reports I can find say he was on way to airport. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Was Haskins actually driving or was the women driving and was she sober? I ask because if he was driving this wasn't a tragedy but a tragedy avoided. Or am I the only one who thinks that driving down the highway this messed up is attempted vehicular homicide? And that the real story here is that innocents didn't get killed by Haskin's deeply irresponsible act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: In reality where was he going then? All the reports I can find say he was on way to airport. Yea but not from practice, he was wasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Was Haskins actually driving or was the women driving and was she sober? I ask because if he was driving this wasn't a tragedy but a tragedy avoided. Or am I the only one who thinks that driving down the highway this messed up is attempted vehicular homicide? And that the real story here is that innocents didn't get killed by Haskin's deeply irresponsible act? I haven't seen any reports saying if he was driving or not but I'm guessing the assistant was driving. It probably wouldn't be possible to drive any period of time without crashing if you have a 0.25 blood alcohol content. Pretty sad this happened because the assistant didn't put ***** gas in the rental vehicle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I was referring to saying it was addiction related. That's ignorant unless I missed the report that said he was an alcoholic. That's like saying anyone who ever got drunk is an alcoholic. That was my point. And I agreed with that point in a subsequent post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CapeBreton said: I haven't seen any reports saying if he was driving or not but I'm guessing the assistant was driving. It probably wouldn't be possible to drive any period of time without crashing if you have a 0.25 blood alcohol content. Pretty sad this happened because the assistant didn't put ***** gas in the rental vehicle. You may have to rethink your position here...hard to drive if she was passed out https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2022/04/13/dwayne-haskins-was-reportedly-in-a-car-with-a-drunk-woman-before-he-was-killed-on-a-miami-highway/ Tough to see this play out ...young...talented...liked by teammates 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CapeBreton said: I haven't seen any reports saying if he was driving or not but I'm guessing the assistant was driving. It probably wouldn't be possible to drive any period of time without crashing if you have a 0.25 blood alcohol content. Pretty sad this happened because the assistant didn't put ***** gas in the rental vehicle. She was supposedly passed out in the car. https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2022/04/13/dwayne-haskins-was-reportedly-in-a-car-with-a-drunk-woman-before-he-was-killed-on-a-miami-highway/ But they really haven't relesed much info about her other than saying a woman had been travelling with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CapeBreton said: I haven't seen any reports saying if he was driving or not but I'm guessing the assistant was driving. It probably wouldn't be possible to drive any period of time without crashing if you have a 0.25 blood alcohol content. Pretty sad this happened because the assistant didn't put ***** gas in the rental vehicle. I speculated that the female occupant may have been his assistant since it was reported Haskins was in a rental headed for an airport - as far as I know that hasn’t been confirmed. The way the story has been reported it sounds like he was driving, but, again, I haven’t seen confirmation of that one way or the other. If you have more info please link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TBBills said: Yea but not from practice, he was wasted. What was the reason he went to Florida to begin with... Smh🙄 Obviously he wasn't practicing at 6 am. Idk why you would think that I was saying he was coming straight from practice Edited May 24, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 16 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Ketamine (Special K) has been used recreationally at clubs and raves since the 1990s. The 60-90 minute period where the drug is strongest is known as a K-hole. After 2+ hours motor skills return to almost normal,but mentally may still be in a bit of a fog As an aside, SoF medics use K as post-wound analgesic, while regular Army and USMC still use fentanyl lollipops or similar (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). Bottom line: K is some serious s**t, and I suspect there's some FL veterinarian shaking in his/her boots right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Seems like he made some bad, bad decisions and lost his life due to them. We are all lucky he didn't kill anyone else. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who do stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: What was the reason he went to Florida to begin with... Smh🙄 Obviously he wasn't practicing at 6 am. Idk why you would think that I was saying he was coming straight from practice The timeline as presented was that a bunch of Pittsburgh players met in Florida to train and work-out together including and up to the day before. The understanding was he was heading to the airport in the rental car because Pittsburgh was having some OTA activity the following day. No one that I have seen has been saying at 5am he was coming from practice - everything I have seen or read - suggested the group finished their workouts the day before and several were heading back to Pittsburgh for Team Activities at different times. What he did after leaving the group of players and that mornings very unfortunate events - is becoming more clear with the Ketamine and BAC at that hour. He went to Florida to work out and was heading back for OTAs - the other decisions cost him dearly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The timeline as presented was that a bunch of Pittsburgh players met in Florida to train and work-out together including and up to the day before. The understanding was he was heading to the airport in the rental car because Pittsburgh was having some OTA activity the following day. No one that I have seen has been saying at 5am he was coming from practice - everything I have seen or read - suggested the group finished their workouts the day before and several were heading back to Pittsburgh for Team Activities at different times. What he did after leaving the group of players and that mornings very unfortunate events - is becoming more clear with the Ketamine and BAC at that hour. He went to Florida to work out and was heading back for OTAs - the other decisions cost him dearly. Yep. He decided to party all night and do drugs. Pretty clear. And pretty stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Dukestreetking said: As an aside, SoF medics use K as post-wound analgesic, while regular Army and USMC still use fentanyl lollipops or similar (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). Bottom line: K is some serious s**t, and I suspect there's some FL veterinarian shaking in his/her boots right now. Highly doubt it. He most likely ran up on someone who had it at the club who wasn't a Veterinarian. I would bet $$$ there is no type of tracing going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, H2o said: Highly doubt it. He most likely ran up on someone who had it at the club who wasn't a Veterinarian. I would bet $$$ there is no type of tracing going on here. Yea K is a street level drug now I could walk down Bailey and have somebody offer me it on the side of the street 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: The timeline as presented was that a bunch of Pittsburgh players met in Florida to train and work-out together including and up to the day before. The understanding was he was heading to the airport in the rental car because Pittsburgh was having some OTA activity the following day. No one that I have seen has been saying at 5am he was coming from practice - everything I have seen or read - suggested the group finished their workouts the day before and several were heading back to Pittsburgh for Team Activities at different times. What he did after leaving the group of players and that mornings very unfortunate events - is becoming more clear with the Ketamine and BAC at that hour. He went to Florida to work out and was heading back for OTAs - the other decisions cost him dearly. Thank you. A bunch of Steelers meet in south Florida to practice for a week. At the end of the final practice/ last night in town Haskins heads out for a night at a club/s to celebrate and unwind. Could have been Miami Beach, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach etc. Being just off of I-95 makes any of those places possible. Plenty of places are open all night in south Florida, it is a globally known party spot. it could have been a strip club/ night club/ after hours venue. I've been to a strip club that was open till 5am in WPB, and have been to an afterhours club in South Beach that was open till 8am. Either type of place could fit the timeline. While at the club he got to partying a little too hard. Famous young guys with some money attract attention at those places. He got a pretty good drink on and had some party favors. A 0.2 BAC is a pretty heavy night out. For those who do not know, the use of a recreational drug like K often masks the effects of booze. You don't 'feel the drunk', you feel the drug, and keep drinking. He loses track of time while under the K and booze and tries to get back to the airport to catch his flight. Maybe he met the woman while out? Anyway he was near the Fort Lauderdale airport around 6am. I-95 and I-595 meets at the airport. With the crazy night out, no one was paying attention to the gas situation. Car runs out of gas with the airport in sight. He doesn't want to call the police for help, would probably get a DUI. No one is thinking clearly at this point, he panicked, and we have the tragic end. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Thank you. A bunch of Steelers meet in south Florida to practice for a week. At the end of the final practice/ last night in town Haskins heads out for a night at a club/s to celebrate and unwind. Could have been Miami Beach, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach etc. Being just off of I-95 makes any of those places possible. Plenty of places are open all night in south Florida, it is a globally known party spot. it could have been a strip club/ night club/ after hours venue. I've been to a strip club that was open till 5am in WPB, and have been to an afterhours club in South Beach that was open till 8am. Either type of place could fit the timeline. While at the club he got to partying a little too hard. Famous young guys with some money attract attention at those places. He got a pretty good drink on and had some party favors. A 0.2 BAC is a pretty heavy night out. For those who do not know, the use of a recreational drug like K often masks the effects of booze. You don't 'feel the drunk', you feel the drug, and keep drinking. He loses track of time while under the K and booze and tries to get back to the airport to catch his flight. Maybe he met the woman while out? Anyway he was near the Fort Lauderdale airport around 6am. I-95 and I-595 meets at the airport. With the crazy night out, no one was paying attention to the gas situation. Car runs out of gas with the airport in sight. He doesn't want to call the police for help, would probably get a DUI. No one is thinking clearly at this point, he panicked, and we have the tragic end. I agree that most of this is likely true and anyone with sense would know what he did doesn’t make him a scumbag or anything else but immature and irresponsible. Plenty young guys are like that. Many who are blessed enough to survive that phase go on to mature and do better. It’s a shame he wasn’t one of those. RIP Haskins. Folks should stop judging them and think back to the dumb crap they did that could have ended similarly. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 11 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Thank you. A bunch of Steelers meet in south Florida to practice for a week. At the end of the final practice/ last night in town Haskins heads out for a night at a club/s to celebrate and unwind. Could have been Miami Beach, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach etc. Being just off of I-95 makes any of those places possible. Plenty of places are open all night in south Florida, it is a globally known party spot. it could have been a strip club/ night club/ after hours venue. I've been to a strip club that was open till 5am in WPB, and have been to an afterhours club in South Beach that was open till 8am. Either type of place could fit the timeline. While at the club he got to partying a little too hard. Famous young guys with some money attract attention at those places. He got a pretty good drink on and had some party favors. A 0.2 BAC is a pretty heavy night out. For those who do not know, the use of a recreational drug like K often masks the effects of booze. You don't 'feel the drunk', you feel the drug, and keep drinking. He loses track of time while under the K and booze and tries to get back to the airport to catch his flight. Maybe he met the woman while out? Anyway he was near the Fort Lauderdale airport around 6am. I-95 and I-595 meets at the airport. With the crazy night out, no one was paying attention to the gas situation. Car runs out of gas with the airport in sight. He doesn't want to call the police for help, would probably get a DUI. No one is thinking clearly at this point, he panicked, and we have the tragic end. 6 hours ago, StHustle said: I agree that most of this is likely true and anyone with sense would know what he did doesn’t make him a scumbag or anything else but immature and irresponsible. Plenty young guys are like that. Many who are blessed enough to survive that phase go on to mature and do better. It’s a shame he wasn’t one of those. RIP Haskins. Folks should stop judging them and think back to the dumb crap they did that could have ended similarly. I closed many a bar in my time in Buffalo. Sometimes the night would end at a Perkins Pancake House or the Towne Restaurant. Sometimes at Panos. I remember emptying my pockets on the night stand before passing out in bed. There would be something like 3 crumpled up singles and 37 cents in change. Two guys I use to run with a lot are gone... one suicide and one murdered. I had another friend who fell down the stairs at Molly's Pub (or was it Merlin's?), broke his neck and died. Not sure why I was spared. I'm grateful to still be here. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Guy made a bad decision and then paid the ultimate price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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