RaoulDuke79 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Meh, I’d almost rather Hill be on the Jets or Dolphins if it comes at the cost of those teams being down 2 first round picks and 28 million in cap space. Hill with Tua or Wilson throwing to him is no where near as dangerous as he was on KC. This is exactly what I said to my buddy at work who's a Dolphins fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: WR corps is top notch. Defense is also a solid group(although they lost the guy behind all of it)… but they still have a QB with some big question marks… so at this point it’s hard to be concerned with them being a threat for the division…. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if they break their winless streak against us this season finally. Good news is Josh Allen has some strange hatred of porpoises and rains terror on them every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Under rated aspect is this move will keep the dolphins invested in tua for the foreseeable future. Since this move will allow the dolphins and tua to continue to beat up on bad teams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: WR corps is top notch. Defense is also a solid group(although they lost the guy behind all of it)… but they still have a QB with some big question marks… so at this point it’s hard to be concerned with them being a threat for the division…. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if they break their winless streak against us this season finally. Oh Jesus. Here we go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Wait till Teddy takes over the reins of that beast. I cant tell if I am serious or not. Edited March 23, 2022 by nedboy7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Heading over to a NE board for some fresh what are we dooiinnnggg?? takes. Cue Judon demanding a trade in 3-2-1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Logic said: I think we're going to continue to own the Dolphins as much as the next guy. I also think Hill will become an under-producing malcontent, and will not like the steep dropoff in targets, production, prestige, and prime time games. I also think it's stupid to give up that much draft capital for AND spend that much on a WR when you're not sure if your QB is "the guy" yet. I also think that between Waddle and Hill, the Phins have now spent three 1sts, two 2nds, two fourths, and a 6th, not to mention a mega-contract, on 2 WRs. Despite me saying all of that... I can't deny that the Dolphins got materially better today. They added a six time Pro Bowler, three time All-Pro. This just a day after adding a Pro Bowl LT. Hill - Waddle - Wilson - Parker - Gesicki - Edmonds - Mostert - Gaskin, with an improved offensive line, is about as much as they could have done to set Tua up for success. It all comes down to the QB now... They are clearly trying to keep up with the Bills. Looks like the Bills quest to win the AFC east isn't a given. I still think the Bills are significantly better because of Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I can't remember the last trade like this that I thought was a bad move for both teams. It feels like KC gave up a shot to be top contender again this year, especially in that division. And Miami gave away a lot of their future. Has a team ever given up this much for a WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Def not Tremaine Edmunds.🤗 You should start charging him rent for living in your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Bills defense comes up small when it’s any starting QB with their actual weapons. one of the Achilles heels of the Fraizer/McDermott Defense. as long as their opponent is rolling out their 4th string QB with all backups in the WR Core…Buffalo going to dominate. other than that…ehhhhh The DVOA ranking disagrees with you here. The Bills had the number 1 defense in DVOA which accounts for how all other teams performed against like opponents. Additionally, Bills were number 1 in pass defense DVOA. Certainly the Bills defense can be better, particularly playing elite qb’s as you have alluded too. But making a point via exaggerating (4th string qb’s comment) the circumstances doesn’t do much to help your case. DVOA is one the best indicators of team performance because it compares how a team performed against another team in relation to how all other teams did against said team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 My initial thought is the Doplhins paid way way too much for Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Anyone know what this comment is referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, aristocrat said: It's Tua. It's not Tua that's the problem, they have Bridgewater now and quite honestly, he's better than Tua. Allen CANNOT take this team lightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyhero68 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Hill won't be as effective without Mahommes tossing the Rock. Tua is a major downgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Josh Allen is better than Kirk Cousins and Case Keenum……..Tua is not in the same stratosphere as Mahomes. Dolphins fans need to temper their expectations of this being a Diggs to Buffalo type impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Sounds good on paper but I think it won't work on the field and Miami will implode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: People are way under estimating the dolphins I think. This is not good. Check out their schedule the last 8 games of 2021. They beat nobodies or teams decimated by injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Nobody can cover Hill. The Bills are not unique in this regard. Not sure why you can't understand that. I’m picking up on you mocking me. Real mature… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, Gugny said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MahoPa00.htm How can 4800 yards, 37 TDs and 13 INTs be considered overrated? If Josh had that season, half of our fanbase would die from losing too much seemen too quickly. You might not have heard the breathless raves of media figures across the board. They don't stop at Mahomes is excellent. He has reached divine status and has never, ever, done anything wrong, and anyone who even hints that another player might be at his level is sneered at. THAT is how he can be considered overrated. Having lived in Brady country for 25 years, I'm sensitive to hagiography, but it must be nauseating to others, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: It's not Tua that's the problem, they have Bridgewater now and quite honestly, he's better than Tua. Allen CANNOT take this team lightly we beat them 61-11 last year he hasn't taken them lightly he feasts on them and pads the stats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Has @Zerovoltz stopped in yet to explain how this is a genius move by Reid and co and actually makes the Chiefs much better, or nah? To be fair, it's an incomplete picture right now. It's easy to look at the fact that they just sold off Hill and haven't replaced him and say the team is much worse now. I think they'll likely still be worse even after we see their corresponding moves, but it's at least slightly possible they could use the extra money and picks to build out a better team that just doesn't have arguably the best WR in the NFL on it. Edited March 23, 2022 by DCOrange 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Kellyhero68 said: Hill won't be as effective without Mahommes tossing the Rock. Tua is a major downgrade. Or Kelce This trade is virtually insignificant to me If Tua is good, that team was going to be good anyway. But we NEED CORNERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: we beat them 61-11 last year he hasn't taken them lightly he feasts on them and pads the stats. Josh Allen is the Dolphins daddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, streetkings01 said: Josh Allen is better than Kirk Cousins and Case Keenum……..Tua is not in the same stratosphere as Mahomes. Dolphins fans need to temper their expectations of this being a Diggs to Buffalo type impact. Dolphin fans thought the gap was closing after the Armstead signing, I imagine they're talking about taking the division now with Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, DCOrange said: To be fair, it's an incomplete picture right now. It's easy to look at the fact that they just sold off Hill and haven't replaced him and say the team is much worse now. I think they'll likely still be worse even after we see their corresponding moves, but it's at least slightly possible they could use that money to build out a better team that just doesn't have arguably the best WR in the NFL on it. Agreed - but I was still jubilant at this news. I feel like we just couldn't stop Hill w/ the skillset he has. We haven't had as much difficulty with any other receivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Somewhere Nick Wright weeps 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: we beat them 61-11 last year he hasn't taken them lightly he feasts on them and pads the stats. He also doesn't play defense, so there's that. We needed two new corners already. It just increases the urgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Big Blitz said: Or Kelce This trade is virtually insignificant to me If Tua is good, that team was going to be good anyway. But we NEED CORNERS Yes we need corners, but Josh will hang 35+ on the Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: It's not Tua that's the problem, they have Bridgewater now and quite honestly, he's better than Tua. Allen CANNOT take this team lightly Can’t tell if this is sarcasm or if you didn’t watch Bridgewater play last season. He was so bad that the Broncos would have been better off with Luck as their starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Under rated aspect is this move will keep the dolphins invested in tua for the foreseeable future. Since this move will allow the dolphins and tua to continue to beat up on bad teams I don't think this really changes that. If he can't succeed with this supporting cast, they probably move on mid-season and get rid of him next offseason. If they're playoff bound and Tua is playing good football, I think they'd obviously be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Wish he would have gone to the Jets. KC just became a worse team for this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Shocking. Beane might want to get some CB's in here-- pronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: we beat them 61-11 last year he hasn't taken them lightly he feasts on them and pads the stats. That was last year with Tua and Brissett, no Tyreek Hill and a much worse offensive line. Bridgewater is better than both. Not to mention they have a better backfield than last year. Hoping our d line adds can neutralize that speed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 First, second and fourth round picks this year. Is Mike Ditka the Dolphins GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, finn said: You might not have heard the breathless raves of media figures across the board. They don't stop at Mahomes is excellent. He has reached divine status and has never, ever, done anything wrong, and anyone who even hints that another player might be at his level is sneered at. THAT is how he can be considered overrated. Having lived in Brady country for 25 years, I'm sensitive to hagiography, but it must be nauseating to others, too. I am gonna have to go with this. I mean they literally put him and Brady on the same Madden cover and the media went crazy comparing old goat to new goat. One super bowl and already a goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Well I guess the NFL Salary Cap is real. $75M AAV for Mahomes and Hill would of been crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Wish he would have gone to the Jets. KC just became a worse team for this deal. Short term, they draft well and just got a ton of picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Damn tough day for some people freaking out about the Dolphins winning the division. Not just a game against the Bills, but now the division. Jesus, did people freaking out watch Tua play against the Bills his whole career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Aaaaannd that's how the 2022 draft became a all CB draft for the bills. Edited March 23, 2022 by Sharky7337 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyhero68 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Nobody can cover Hill. The Bills are not unique in this regard. Not sure why you can't understand that. Hill might be open, but the QB still has to get it too him. Tua who is blind to pass rushes with Von Miller on his ass will affect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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