pennstate10 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: OK, assuming this is correct, we can now guess at some cap hits. $32 million guaranteed. So lets guess $30 million in bonuses, $2 million salary first year. 30/6 = $5million per year bonus hit. So first year cap hit may be as little as $7 million. To hit $53 million first three years, salary in years 2 and 3 about $10 milliion. Then, to equal $120 million, salary in last 3 years would be about $22 million per year. That will never happen. If he's cut after 1 year its a $25 million cap hit, after 2 would be $20 milliion, after 3 (when he really needs to be cut or contract reworked), its $15 million. $15 million is a big dead cap hit for one player, but in 2025 cap will be $250 million or more, so not that bad. These are just my guesses; it will be interesting to see how its all structured. Clearly a cap gamble, but good move by Beane. He's trying to hit the open window. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Now we need a CB that wants to win to sign a cheap deal here. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 We're gonna let him sit for half the year right? Just show up for the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Von on the right and Rouse on the left. Can't wait baby! Greg is going to get some great technique tips to bring up his game from Von! Should really help AJEpenesa too. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingant Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The line to win the Super Bowl went from -700 to -650 after getting Miller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Where TF is Scott Law in all this revelry? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Someone just posted this on bookface…didn’t believe it! Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBI$111 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! 2 3 4 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 120 million dollars laid end to end in one dollar bills would reach 11,640 miles Damn I left my wallet in the car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 So Miller - Jones/Settle - Oliver - Rousseau? Fine with me I guess 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: 6 years/120 can’t be real can it? We got taken to the cleaners if it is. Dudes 32! If we win even one Super Bowl it will be worth it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: 120 million dollars laid end to end in one dollar bills would reach 11,640 miles Damn I left my wallet in the car.... I thought you said we are broke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Our defense is going to be amazing. The #1 ranking - as we kind of know - was a mirage last year. This year, it will be the truth. We're going to absolutely destroy teams. I hope they never let up - and on the Patriots in particular. I hope we put a 40 burger on that team both times (and there won't be a 3rd, because they ain't getting a WC w/ how stacked the AFCW is). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I couldn't find a violin small enough if I tried. Call that guy that makes stuff out of pencil tips and the violin still wouldn't be small enough. Edited March 17, 2022 by The Wiz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 With how good our defense already is against the non-elite teams, I’m not even joking when I say give Von load management. Bring him in on passing downs against meh teams, rest him if we get up big and then unleash him in the big games. Make sure he’s locked and loaded for the 3 years we’re realistically having him here for. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! Lol what…he was phenomenal last season. This is a massive signing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: ".... Zack Wilson's in danger" 😂 Is Zach Wilson out of Elementary School yet? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I just read (and it's probably been posted on this thread) that a big part of his decision was wanting to play w/ Allen. I could get very used to that kind of story. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! Roger Daltry can just speak for me here PS...there's this thing called...THE DRAFT. Teams find talent there, like, you know, CB and WR and OL and stuff 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! You are a complete rookie at understanding contracts. Hilarious. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Come on and end your career in Buffalo Jerry. You have a real closer on the other side now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yep............and these aren't the deals you regret if they don't work out. They didn't get close to the full 7 years out of Mario and it was still one of the best long term deals they've ever done. Bryce Paup........similar. It's about impact............now close the deal on the Lombardi and it's an absolute Lombargain. This is basically a 3 year $52M deal............not gigantic for what should be the 3rd or 4th ranked individual game breaker on the team. Hold on a sec.....were you "right" again LOL? Great call Bro! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Building a SuperTeam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Malazan said: Is Zach Wilson out of Elementary School yet? Looks like he's still working on his Math. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Where does this leave hughes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 25 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 “Yeah Doctor, it won’t go down… …uh, it started with the Von Miller signing… …I mean, I’m not complaining I just wanted you to know… …yep …uh huh… …ok. Thanks doc. GO BILLS!!!” 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 More of this please! 3 1 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Success said: I just read (and it's probably been posted on this thread) that a big part of his decision was wanting to play w/ Allen. I could get very used to that kind of story. Me too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! I'd love for you to explain how he's "not that great" when all of the metrics say that he's better than guys who got similar contracts. Pressure win rate, tackles, hell even just sacks are better/more efficient than a guy like Chandler Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! I think its been stated a billion times in this thread. But just in case you missed the first 24 pages. THERE IS NO WAY HE'S GETTING PAID $120 MILLION OVER 6 YEARS. NO CHANCE. NONE. ZERO. The contract could just as easily be for $500 million over 6 years, with the last three years being salary of $150 million/year. Hate to break it to you, but this isnt Beane's first rodeo. Its his job. Call me crazy, but I'm betting that this "overzealous and inexperienced GM" knows a bit more about NFL football an cap management than you. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I can use this all day apparently. Edited March 17, 2022 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Success said: I just read (and it's probably been posted on this thread) that a big part of his decision was wanting to play w/ Allen. I could get very used to that kind of story. Wouldn’t be surprised if Allen is #1 on the NFL Top 100 list. Players knew before everyone else did when he broke into that list after his second year. Edited March 17, 2022 by SCBills 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: I'd love for you to explain how he's "not that great" when all of the metrics say that he's better than guys who got similar contracts. Pressure win rate, tackles, hell even just sacks are better/more efficient than a guy like Chandler Jones. I think people maybe didn’t notice as much because Aaron Donald always got the spotlight? That’s just a wild guess cuz von was great last year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Roger Daltry can just speak for me here PS...there's this thing called...THE DRAFT. Teams find talent there, like, you know, CB and WR and OL and stuff Gotta love when an ill-informed newbie comes barging in like a bull in a china shop, huh? Maybe check the details of the contract and try reading the room before 'enlightening' all of us, newb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: Where does this leave hughes? Jacksonville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: I think its been stated a billion times in this thread. But just in case you missed the first 24 pages. THERE IS NO WAY HE'S GETTING PAID $120 MILLION OVER 6 YEARS. NO CHANCE. NONE. ZERO. The contract could just as easily be for $500 million over 6 years, with the last three years being salary of $150 million/year. Hate to break it to you, but this isnt Beane's first rodeo. Its his job. Call me crazy, but I'm betting that this "overzealous and inexperienced GM" knows a bit more about NFL football an cap management than you. Don't feed the troll, mate. Although as can be seen, I did succumb to the temptation to toss him a bisquit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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