Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: In my admittedly homerist opinion, it isn't just the talent, and coaching that has made the Bills a great team that is a favorite for the SB next season-- it's the culture that Beane, and McD have created. Character, and culture matter, especially for this Bills team. It's the way it's been built. I believe this, and I'm not sure that Gronkowsky fits the Bills' culture. The same Gronk that played for Belichick? Gronk is a good blocker, takes care of his body, and tough as nails. Because he acts like a frat boy every minute the camera is on him doesn't mean he doesn't work and understand team concept. Edited March 3, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: When they sign Gronk and he apologizes (again) in his opening PC and talks about bringing a championship to his hometown and he and Tre do some co-branding promos together - are you guys still gonna come here and salt? Is it snowing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Not at that price ! I always liked Gronk but seeing as Rudolph has come available i would rather see him here if his price is better ! If both are asking that high a price i would rather have the Bills focus on getting Knox a extension because he is much more imperative to the Bills future than either of those 2 because they are on the down side of their respective careers & the money could be better spent ! Plus there may be a good TE in the draft that could be developed for a lot less ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just saw a stat that Gronk was 2nd among TE's in yards after the catch. And that was only playing 12 games.... isnt YAC something we've all agreed needs fixing around here? So here we have a guy that had 800+ yards in 12 games. Was 2nd at his position in YAC. Is still an elite blocking TE. And people are talking about not wanting "the ghost of gronk" or a run down player. Its knee jerk and its drastically inaccurate....... he lost his cool 5 years ago. get over it. i bet white has. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Assuming you can get a contract worked out that does not affect our ability to upgrade other spots, this is as big a no-brainer as you’ll ever get. The guy is one of the best ever. Of course you sign him for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, nucci said: Did he do the same with Tampa when he wanted to play for a winner? I'd argue that he has a ton of respect for Brady, where he has little to no respect for the Bills or Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Is it snowing? No, but it might be raining...my leg's getting wet. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Since it’s Gronk, 1 year $6.9m should get it done. Add in a voidable year so the cap hit this year is only $4.9m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: When they sign Gronk and he apologizes (again) in his opening PC and talks about bringing a championship to his hometown and he and Tre do some co-branding promos together - are you guys still gonna come here and salt? I'll answer this. My take is probably some not very many. Bills fans are a resilient bunch. I personally wouldn't allow my dislike of him temper my love for the Team. I would trust that McBeane had the TEAMS best interests at heart. Period. Would I celebrate if he caught the winning TD in a huge game? What do you think? For me of course Im going to cheer a Bills victory. In the final analysis his contributions to OUR team will trump any lingering rancor from his past behavior. I just cant stand the guys schtick. I have that right. It doesnt change the fact that if all else being equal a lot of Bills fans find it abhorrent he would ever play football for the Bills, with his patriot stink and memories of his hit on Tre White as a part of his legacy. this message board is full of diehards and we all want to win an NFL championship. Lets not get all uppity like your opinion is sooo much more valid and "Right" than anyone elses. One player on a TEAM.....I'll swallow my disgust. Happy Now Gronk supporters? smh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 If Tre can forgive Gronk for a dirty hit in the heat of the moment, you can’t tell me that envisioning a Josh Allen to Gronk celebration doesn’t get you excited… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Pundits thoughts on the possibility Edited March 3, 2022 by Stank_Nasty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Sign him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Put me down as a solid NO! I can see Gronk coming to the Bills for an easy final paycheck and putting in little to know effort. Beane has to be really careful bringing in veterans who claim they want to play for a winner. So a guy from southern CA thinks that a player whose family lives in Buffalo and operates their family business here would choose cap-strapped Buffalo to be the town where he came to steal one last fat pay check? Some of the takes from you emotional decision makers in this thread are utter nonsense..........but many of them are entertainingly stupid. 1 hour ago, muppy said: I'll answer this. My take is probably some not very many. Bills fans are a resilient bunch. I personally wouldn't allow my dislike of him temper my love for the Team. I would trust that McBeane had the TEAMS best interests at heart. Period. Would I celebrate if he caught the winning TD in a huge game? What do you think? For me of course Im going to cheer a Bills victory. In the final analysis his contributions to OUR team will trump any lingering rancor from his past behavior. I just cant stand the guys schtick. I have that right. It doesnt change the fact that if all else being equal a lot of Bills fans find it abhorrent he would ever play football for the Bills, with his patriot stink and memories of his hit on Tre White as a part of his legacy. this message board is full of diehards and we all want to win an NFL championship. Lets not get all uppity like your opinion is sooo much more valid and "Right" than anyone elses. One player on a TEAM.....I'll swallow my disgust. Happy Now Gronk supporters? smh 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'd argue that he has a ton of respect for Brady, where he has little to no respect for the Bills or Buffalo. And what would be your proof of the latter? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: When they sign Gronk and he apologizes (again) in his opening PC and talks about bringing a championship to his hometown and he and Tre do some co-branding promos together - are you guys still gonna come here and salt? It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk. Dude had no choice where he was drafted..........he got passed on by his hometown/favorite team in the draft...........did his job at a high level.........didn't treat Buffalo worse than any other opponent(though he probably had cause to for passing on him).........and yet people are ultimately mad/jealous because he did his job well elsewhere and that some of that involved beating an uncompetitive Buffalo team for the better part of a decade. The whole Tre White thing is just nonsense...........heat of the moment mistake.........he apologized(which most of them didn't even know about)...........and his explanation of the situation is consistent with the idea that he didn't enjoy playing for Belichick and why he would soon prematurely retire........but our emo's can't run with THAT they gotta' make it about his disdain for Buffalo or Tre or some other nonsense. Edited March 3, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 5 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Davis-Gronk-Knox-Diggs….how is a defense supposed to cover all those guys? Draft a speedy running back who can catch passes and that offense will be so damn fun to watch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 He's a villain I've enjoyed rooting against over the years. Would I want him on my team? Hell yeah. He's still got stuff in the tank and he's good at ALL aspects of being a TE. Helps our running game and boost the passing as well. Besides, it gives us two legit options for TE in case of injury. Gives us a FANTASTIC 2 TE package with Diggs, Gabe, Gronk and Knox. Pound it or chuck it! He catches a TD in the Superbowl and he literally gets to be a hometown hero. what's not to like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 If Tre is ok with it, there's not much reason for us to stay pissed at him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk. Dude had no choice where he was drafted..........he got passed on by his hometown/favorite team in the draft...........did his job at a high level.........didn't treat Buffalo worse than any other opponent(though he probably had cause to for passing on him).........and yet people are ultimately mad/jealous because he did his job well elsewhere and that some of that involved beating an uncompetitive Buffalo team for the better part of a decade. The whole Tre White thing is just nonsense...........heat of the moment mistake.........he apologized(which most of them didn't even know about)...........and his explanation of the situation is consistent with the idea that he didn't enjoy playing for Belichick and why he would soon prematurely retire........but our emo's can't run with THAT they gotta' make it about his disdain for Buffalo or Tre or some other nonsense. Yup and there’s one guy saying “no thanks I’d rather win a Super Bowl with homegrown talent” I mean Christ, THE DUDE LITERALLY WENT TO WILLIAMSVILLE NORTH. You cannot get any more “farm to table” than Gronk. I am starting to believe Quarantine Brain is a real thing. Edited March 3, 2022 by Coach Tuesday 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: And what would be your proof of the latter? Same reasons I've said before which you've previously disagreed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk. Dude had no choice where he was drafted..........he got passed on by his hometown/favorite team in the draft...........did his job at a high level.........didn't treat Buffalo worse than any other opponent(though he probably had cause to for passing on him).........and yet people are ultimately mad/jealous because he did his job well elsewhere and that some of that involved beating an uncompetitive Buffalo team for the better part of a decade. The whole Tre White thing is just nonsense...........heat of the moment mistake.........he apologized(which most of them didn't even know about)...........and his explanation of the situation is consistent with the idea that he didn't enjoy playing for Belichick and why he would soon prematurely retire........but our emo's can't run with THAT they gotta' make it about his disdain for Buffalo or Tre or some other nonsense. The Tre White thing is not nonsense. The dude took a shot at the back of his head! Waayyyy after the play. That's one of the most dangerous things you can possibly do, and it was at a guy that obviously wasn't looking at him. He's a cowardice piece of trash. If he's pissed off at something that happened on the field, get in his face when he gets up or is at least looking at him like most guys do. I don't care if he was literally conceived on the 50 yard line at Ralph Wilson Stadium, I want no part of that dirtbag on our team. 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The same Gronk that played for Belichick? Gronk is a good blocker, takes care of his body, and tough as nails. Because he acts like a frat boy every minute the camera is on him doesn't mean he doesn't work and understand team concept. Tough as nails guys take shots at the back of a defenseless player's head that's not looking at them after the play is over? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Gronk has always been a great talent, but there's no question he was extremely immature earlier in his career. I couldn't stand the guy. I think that he's matured and become more likeable. He even did a "Cameo-style" video for my friend to surprise his son with - just as a favor/gesture, and not for money. If he can still play, which I think he can, he'd really help the Bills offense, so if Tre White and the team can get past the cheap shot from several years ago, it's a great fit for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I’m not a Gronk fan at all, but he is $$$ in big games, that just can’t be denied. As for Tre White, I really don’t give af what he thinks anymore. If it’s good for the team, make it happen. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: If Tre is ok with it, there's not much reason for us to stay pissed at him. This is the topic sentence of this book report. As soon as Tre says he’s fine, we don’t have to be de facto defensive for him. The pro-Gronk crowd has to at least consider that we’ve rooted against this guy on principle for a decade. He assaulted one of our best players with a weapon and was given a light slap on the metal-braced wrist. A decent punishment would have actually helped Bills fans process it. Instead it just advanced the screw job narrative and now included Gronk personally. The lack of remorse during his documentary was the icing on the cake. It should come as no surprise that many fans can’t get past it. But I’d like to think that if Tre can, we can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: The Tre White thing is not nonsense. The dude took a shot at the back of his head! Waayyyy after the play. That's one of the most dangerous things you can possibly do, and it was at a guy that obviously wasn't looking at him. He's a cowardice piece of trash. If he's pissed off at something that happened on the field, get in his face when he gets up or is at least looking at him like most guys do. I don't care if he was literally conceived on the 50 yard line at Ralph Wilson Stadium, I want no part of that dirtbag on our team. Tough as nails guys take shots at the back of a defenseless player's head that's not looking at them after the play is over? It was a cheap shot. He apologized to the man. Move the F on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Gronk is big and lumbering now, but his big hands cradle rockets. Diggs, Knox, Gronk, Davis would be tough to stop. If the Bills can somehow get a CB2 at pick 25 while adding a speed WR like Calvin Austin III they would be a tougher matchup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I wouldn't hate it but that 7-9 million number is a lot to pay for a TE2. I would rather target a cheaper option like Kyle Rudolph or a draft prospect in the mid rounds than spend money that could be better off spent on the O-line so Josh isn't running for his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Gronk is big and lumbering now, but his big hands cradle rockets. Diggs, Knox, Gronk, Davis would be tough to stop. If the Bills can somehow get a CB2 at pick 25 while adding a speed WR like Calvin Austin III they would be a tougher matchup. Lumbering maybe, still one of top YAC players in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't hate it but that 7-9 million number is a lot to pay for a TE2. I would rather target a cheaper option like Kyle Rudolph or a draft prospect in the mid rounds than spend money that could be better off spent on the O-line so Josh isn't running for his life. Strong blocking TEs ARE an extension of the OLine. Even better when they can catch as it holds DL/LB from freely charging the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Yup and there’s one guy saying “no thanks I’d rather win a Super Bowl with homegrown talent” I mean Christ, THE DUDE LITERALLY WENT TO WILLIAMSVILLE NORTH. You cannot get any more “farm to table” than Gronk. I am starting to believe Quarantine Brain is a real thing. Honestly, people from Willy North are too radioactive to be Buffalo Bills imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Did Timmah's editors send him a threatening email about 'generate some content OR ELSE! '?🤔 Edited March 3, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk. Dude had no choice where he was drafted..........he got passed on by his hometown/favorite team in the draft...........did his job at a high level.........didn't treat Buffalo worse than any other opponent(though he probably had cause to for passing on him).........and yet people are ultimately mad/jealous because he did his job well elsewhere and that some of that involved beating an uncompetitive Buffalo team for the better part of a decade. The whole Tre White thing is just nonsense...........heat of the moment mistake.........he apologized(which most of them didn't even know about)...........and his explanation of the situation is consistent with the idea that he didn't enjoy playing for Belichick and why he would soon prematurely retire........but our emo's can't run with THAT they gotta' make it about his disdain for Buffalo or Tre or some other nonsense. You can feel however you want about Gronkosky, and his behavior. But, you really can't blame people who are both fans of the game, and fans of the Bills for disliking a guy who took one of the cheapest, and dangerous after-the-whistle shots at a player as beloved as Tre White. Nonsense? If you're going to say that "It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk," I might suggest that it's laughable the lengths you are going to excuse his behavior. "Heat of the moment mistake...???" Watch the clip again. A "heat of the moment mistake" would imply that it wasn't an intentional attempt to cause injury to a player, with malice, who was face down on the ground, after the play. Which it clearly was. What is nonsense is your snarky, blithe insults of anyone who disagrees with your position, and your straw-man arguments about Cronk's abilities.. Literally no one is suggesting that Gronkowsky isn't a talented player, perhaps with plenty left in the tank. But, this wasn't the Jarvis Landry hit on Aaron Williams (which you weirdly dismissed as "legal" -- he was flagged and fined for that hit). It is completely understandable that Bills fans would not excuse that egregious, late hit. There are Bills fans on this site who simply believe that there are lines that can't be crossed, be they in the "heat of the moment," or not. And for many, Gronkowsy's assault on Tre White crossed that line. You don't believe that line exists? Fine. Others do. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Gronk had me thinking about other aging TEs. I looked up Tony Gonzalez. Holy smokes, he has to be the most durable non QB in NFL history. He missed 2 games in 17 years. He got overshadowed by the Gronk phenomenon at the end of his run. He doesn't get enough credit for his durability and how long he maintained his play at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27yanks Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Elmwood Ave won't be the same. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 21 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: Not a single Bill did anything about it afterwards. I'm not saying get a personal foul but nothing was done. No jawing with Gronk, no in his face, no pushing him. It was pathetic. I was mad at Gronk don't get me wrong. I believe White got a concussion. Concussion protocol and was playing the next week. What burns me is he had the absolute WEAPON on this elbow which he drove into the back of Tre's helmet. Timmah says Tre forgave him and also says many Bills fans do not. I am mixed emotions on the guy.....mainly do not want him but part of me in intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: Gronk is big and lumbering now, but his big hands cradle rockets. Diggs, Knox, Gronk, Davis would be tough to stop. If the Bills can somehow get a CB2 at pick 25 while adding a speed WR like Calvin Austin III they would be a tougher matchup. I think people need to start adding Singletary as a legit weapon if we add Gronk . With Gronk in the lineup one of the bigger beneficiaries will be Singletary. Bless Beas' heart but the upgrade to Gronk from Beas in the run game will be immense. And with an improved and more dangerous run game, defenses will be less prone to all out attacks on Josh. The whole offense will improve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: So a guy from southern CA thinks that a player whose family lives in Buffalo and operates their family business here would choose cap-strapped Buffalo to be the town where he came to steal one last fat pay check? Back off dude! I may live in Southern California now but I was born and raised in WNY. Sheeesh My point still remains. Beane needs to be really careful. There’ll be plenty of veterans looking to jump on the bandwagon, and having family in WNY is even MORE reason to be skeptical of Gronk’s motivation….not less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 It would be very awkward if Gronk were to sign with the Bills or another team in the offseason, then Brady decides to unretire. Would he want to also go back to the Bucs or wherever Brady plays? Either way I would assume the top contenders for his services have to be the Bills, Chiefs or Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Long Beach said: Strong blocking TEs ARE an extension of the OLine. Even better when they can catch as it holds DL/LB from freely charging the QB. If the Bills want to switch to a 2 TE offense primarily then I think Gronk makes more sense. But if they want Gronk as more of a role player then that really is too much money to spend on a role player in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: If the Bills want to switch to a 2 TE offense primarily then I think Gronk makes more sense. But if they want Gronk as more of a role player then that really is too much money to spend on a role player in my opinion. Assuming the interest is mutual (which it may not be), does anyone even know what Gronk would want from the Bills in terms of salary? Maybe he's willing to take a substantial (true) "hometown" discount in order to play for the team where he grew up as a fan and to play for a team with a great QB and a legitimate shot to win it all. I suspect that other teams would be willing to offer him more money than the Bills, as those teams might have more cap space and might be more interested in a big name signing to help sell tickets. The Bills don't have a ton of cap space and don't need to sign a big name to sell tickets. (But maybe the Sabres could use him - they have both lots of cap space and a major need to sell tickets). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Sign Gronk, draft a speedy WR like Dotson or Williams, and draft RB Max Borghi in round 3 or 4. Defense? Who needs defense? Just boat race everyone off the field. Edited March 3, 2022 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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