Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, msw2112 said: (But maybe the Sabres could use him - they have both lots of cap space and a major need to sell tickets). Tom Girot (Conehead) retire? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 16 hours ago, daz28 said: That's all fine and dandy, and if I were White I'd be mad, too. I'm not a Gronk fan, so I don't know what you're trying to sell me here. Maybe you should get a job on cable news, because you claim he said that he didn't regret it, and now you show me this ham sandwich for whatever reason I don't know. It's clear you made that up, and that's all really wanted to know. Have a great night. You are saying he has same source as Tim Graham - himself. I guess that makes him a professional broodcaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I don't know what's worse. Fans being upset about this 5 years later or fans believing Brandon Beane hasn't already spoken to Bills players about Gronkowski? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 5:00 PM, billybrew1 said: He definitely ain’t worth no 8 mill anymore…. What if he made $1 million per TD, with a cap on $8 million. Serious question, would he be worth $8 million if he scored 8 TD's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Fact The idea that adding Rob Gronkowski might make you feel conflicted about your Bills fandom........and hopefully send you back to one of the other teams you used to root for..........makes it an even BETTER idea, IMO. fact. You are a 18 hours ago, Mark Vader said: No one can guarantee that he will still have that same type of production. Not spending 7-8 million on an injury prone player. That money can be better spent elsewhere. a point I made earlier 👍🏻 Hey Gronkites. Have you tweeted him and asked him what HE thinks? Funny not one comment from Gronk being posted where he counters any of my arguments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: It would be very awkward if Gronk were to sign with the Bills or another team in the offseason, then Brady decides to unretire. Would he want to also go back to the Bucs or wherever Brady plays? Either way I would assume the top contenders for his services have to be the Bills, Chiefs or Rams. I am sure we would be more than happy to trade him back to them, for say, a 3rd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: No, but it might be raining...my leg's getting wet. 🤔 What is the salt in the quote I quoted above gonna do for you in the rain 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, Starr Almighty said: What is the salt in the quote I quoted above gonna do for you in the rain 🤷🏻♂️ Hoping for a flash freeze. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Back off dude! I may live in Southern California now but I was born and raised in WNY. Sheeesh My point still remains. Beane needs to be really careful. There’ll be plenty of veterans looking to jump on the bandwagon, and having family in WNY is even MORE reason to be skeptical of Gronk’s motivation….not less. haha so someone else decided to use the whole Cali thing against you. Talk about Statesism or how ever you want to call it. Same thing happened to me and I got suspended from the board for telling the guy off. You definitely kept it cooler than I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 This guy is done. He can’t last a full season. Also didn’t he say he wants to play for Cinci?? Hard pass on on Gronk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Hey Gronkites. Have you tweeted him and asked him what HE thinks? Funny not one comment from Gronk being posted where he counters any of my arguments He's a PENDING free agent..........how many free agents-in-wait do you see talking openly about what "other" team they would prefer to play for in the 2-3 week period before they hit the market?(when agents and teams are covertly, but secretly to no one in the league, setting up deals that will be characterized as thrown together quickly just minutes into free agency). This is almost as nonsensical as Happless calling out Tim Graham for not citing the team or agent source for his rumor about the Bills having interest in Gronk when the team would be subject to fines and a loss of draft picks and the agent fined and sanctioned for openly discussing "not free yet" agents weeks prior to them actually being "free". Every day further into the offseason we get the more many fans forget how things actually work. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Every day further into the offseason we get the more many fans forget how things actually work. 😜 🤣 exactly why BS articles like this should be filed with / under We need to “print” something Show me a Gronk Tweet, TockTock post where he says he has an internet in playing for the Bills and I will STFU Until then, this has the merit of the Dunkirk Don thread. people mocked me for calling him a fraud until the truth came out Edited March 3, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: This guy is done. He can’t last a full season. Also didn’t he say he wants to play for Cinci?? Hard pass on on Gronk. Gronk played 12 games last season for 802 yards and 6 TDs on a stacked offense. Knox played 15 games last season for 587 yards and 9 TDs on a less-stacked offense. I'll take both of them, thank you. 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: You can feel however you want about Gronkosky, and his behavior. But, you really can't blame people who are both fans of the game, and fans of the Bills for disliking a guy who took one of the cheapest, and dangerous after-the-whistle shots at a player as beloved as Tre White. Nonsense? If you're going to say that "It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk," I might suggest that it's laughable the lengths you are going to excuse his behavior. "Heat of the moment mistake...???" Watch the clip again. A "heat of the moment mistake" would imply that it wasn't an intentional attempt to cause injury to a player, with malice, who was face down on the ground, after the play. Which it clearly was. What is nonsense is your snarky, blithe insults of anyone who disagrees with your position, and your straw-man arguments about Cronk's abilities.. Literally no one is suggesting that Gronkowsky isn't a talented player, perhaps with plenty left in the tank. But, this wasn't the Jarvis Landry hit on Aaron Williams (which you weirdly dismissed as "legal" -- he was flagged and fined for that hit). It is completely understandable that Bills fans would not excuse that egregious, late hit. There are Bills fans on this site who simply believe that there are lines that can't be crossed, be they in the "heat of the moment," or not. And for many, Gronkowsy's assault on Tre White crossed that line. You don't believe that line exists? Fine. Others do. "You can't blame them" is almost without exception a pre-cursor to justify some stupid decision that someone made. I'm not immune to emotion wrt players.........I've openly expressed my "hate" for Matthew Judon on TSW.............IMO he's been the dirtiest player in the league since he was drafted and in Josh Allen's first game as a pro he cheap shotted him several times with plays that were much more likely to cause Allen to miss time with injury than the Gronkowski flop. But unlike some of our emo's on this board, I know the value of not letting those emotions control me. Judon gets no real estate in my mind, even when he plays the Bills. There is nothing to gain from that other than looking weak, stupid and victimized...........and if you let your feels beat you like that in business, well then you are REALLY f*cked. So, yeah, you CAN blame people for the state they choose to put themselves in. The hate for Gronk is for a heat of the moment incident that is entirely inconsistent with his entire, distinguished HOF career.........and it's something that happened 4 and a half years ago and was addressed with both an apology and the loss of the player to the team for a game and the player losing a $300K game check. What more do you want for something that resulted in no injury? Being perpetually mad about something that happened to someone else and resulted in no harm is ridiculous to me...........but I get a lot of laughs out of ridiculous stuff like that. People who can't keep their sh*t together can be very entertaining if nothing else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: What more do you want for something that resulted in no injury? You ask a simple, straightforward question so I’ll give you a simple straightforward answer; not on the team. If the Bills decide to pursue, fair enough. If we win a Super Bowl, great. I’d love to win one before I die someday. But I’d also be fine if we passed. In fact more than fine. But you are obviously someone where the ends are always going to justify the means. And that’s fine. Difference of opinion. That’s how life goes round. I just find it interesting that you continuously make every attempt to belittle everybody who has a different opinion or set of priorities than yours. They are stupid, lack self awareness, are emo, etc… just because they don’t agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gugny said: Gronk played 12 games last season for 802 yards and 6 TDs on a stacked offense. Knox played 15 games last season for 587 yards and 9 TDs on a less-stacked offense. I'll take both of them, thank you. God dammit I agree with you 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: "You can't blame them" is almost without exception a pre-cursor to justify some stupid decision that someone made. I'm not immune to emotion wrt players.........I've openly expressed my "hate" for Matthew Judon on TSW.............IMO he's been the dirtiest player in the league since he was drafted and in Josh Allen's first game as a pro he cheap shotted him several times with plays that were much more likely to cause Allen to miss time with injury than the Gronkowski flop. But unlike some of our emo's on this board, I know the value of not letting those emotions control me. Judon gets no real estate in my mind, even when he plays the Bills. There is nothing to gain from that other than looking weak, stupid and victimized...........and if you let your feels beat you like that in business, well then you are REALLY f*cked. So, yeah, you CAN blame people for the state they choose to put themselves in. The hate for Gronk is for a heat of the moment incident that is entirely inconsistent with his entire, distinguished HOF career.........and it's something that happened 4 and a half years ago and was addressed with both an apology and the loss of the player to the team for a game and the player losing a $300K game check. What more do you want for something that resulted in no injury? Being perpetually mad about something that happened to someone else and resulted in no harm is ridiculous to me...........but I get a lot of laughs out of ridiculous stuff like that. People who can't keep their sh*t together can be very entertaining if nothing else. You can't blame me if I think that's a really dumb statement. The rest of your post is none too surprising. You've been gaslighting your way through this entire thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: God dammit I agree with you It is awkward Wonder if the team floated this to the media to make sure there wouldn’t be a big backlash? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bongo said: You ask a simple, straightforward question so I’ll give you a simple straightforward answer; not on the team. If the Bills decide to pursue, fair enough. If we win a Super Bowl, great. I’d love to win one before I die someday. But I’d also be fine if we passed. In fact more than fine. But you are obviously someone where the ends are always going to justify the means. And that’s fine. Difference of opinion. That’s how life goes round. I just find it interesting that you continuously make every attempt to belittle everybody who has a different opinion or set of priorities than yours. They are stupid, lack self awareness, are emo, etc… just because they don’t agree with you. Well those weren't the terms of his suspension Bongo........you can't re-litigate it now.........there was nothing about prohibiting him from ever playing for his hometown team and Beane already attempted to sign him last winter..........so they already went to your "fair enough" point last offseason. People are free to be all up in their feels about it.........didn't say they weren't..........there is just nothing to gain whatsoever from holding onto it............but like I said, it's been amusing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Do we even know if Gronk is at all interested? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Do we even know if Gronk is at all interested? We won't until free agency tampering begins in about two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Gronk played 12 games last season for 802 yards and 6 TDs on a stacked offense. Knox played 15 games last season for 587 yards and 9 TDs on a less-stacked offense. I'll take both of them, thank you. On a less stacked offense? Hahah wtf are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Well those weren't the terms of his suspension Bongo........you can't re-litigate it now.........there was nothing about prohibiting him from ever playing for his hometown team and Beane already attempted to sign him last winter..........so they already went to your "fair enough" point last offseason. People are free to be all up in their feels about it.........didn't say they weren't..........there is just nothing to gain whatsoever from holding onto it............but like I said, it's been amusing. But what you are failing to understand is that my desire, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with his suspension or his treatment by the NFL. It has to do with my own personal thoughts and opinions of him. I could care less what judgement from the NFL is. You are approaching this as “he’s done his time”. I’m approaching this as “he’s shown his character”. Fine. Again, you have your opinion and I have mine. Maybe you are right. Maybe I am. But that doesn’t mean I have tell you you are shallow or arrogant just because you have a different opinion. But you sure seem to feel the need to insult everybody who disagrees with you. 😉😁👍🙂 (apparently obligatory use of emojis to degrade you because you have a different opinion) I’m now going to one up you with “nana nana boo boo” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Last year's highlights. The guy is definitely something we don't have. Got to click the link, nfl blocks it. Edited March 4, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bongo said: But what you are failing to understand is that my desire, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with his suspension or his treatment by the NFL. It has to do with my own personal thoughts and opinions of him. I could care less what judgement from the NFL is. You are approaching this as “he’s done his time”. I’m approaching this as “he’s shown his character”. Fine. Again, you have your opinion and I have mine. Maybe you are right. Maybe I am. But that doesn’t mean I have tell you you are shallow or arrogant just because you have a different opinion. But you sure seem to feel the need to insult everybody who disagrees with you. 😉😁👍🙂 (apparently obligatory use of emojis to degrade you because you have a different opinion) I’m now going to one up you with “nana nana boo boo” not singling you out but for the anti gronk crowd… will you be judging beane for the move? mad at tre if he’s buried the hatchet fully? dusappointed in josh if he does 9 touchdown celebrations with him? turn your back to his super bowl float? or is it more of an “I don’t actually care but want to be as purebred Buffalo as possible” in the off-season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: You can feel however you want about Gronkosky, and his behavior. But, you really can't blame people who are both fans of the game, and fans of the Bills for disliking a guy who took one of the cheapest, and dangerous after-the-whistle shots at a player as beloved as Tre White. Nonsense? If you're going to say that "It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk," I might suggest that it's laughable the lengths you are going to excuse his behavior. "Heat of the moment mistake...???" Watch the clip again. A "heat of the moment mistake" would imply that it wasn't an intentional attempt to cause injury to a player, with malice, who was face down on the ground, after the play. Which it clearly was. What is nonsense is your snarky, blithe insults of anyone who disagrees with your position, and your straw-man arguments about Cronk's abilities.. Literally no one is suggesting that Gronkowsky isn't a talented player, perhaps with plenty left in the tank. But, this wasn't the Jarvis Landry hit on Aaron Williams (which you weirdly dismissed as "legal" -- he was flagged and fined for that hit). It is completely understandable that Bills fans would not excuse that egregious, late hit. There are Bills fans on this site who simply believe that there are lines that can't be crossed, be they in the "heat of the moment," or not. And for many, Gronkowsy's assault on Tre White crossed that line. You don't believe that line exists? Fine. Others do. I put that guy on ignore. He feels entitled to act all snooty and think he is the smartest guy in the room. smirking down his nose at people. Let him think it in a vacuum. He doesnt want a discussion don't give him one. Edited March 4, 2022 by muppy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: not singling you out but for the anti gronk crowd… will you be judging beane for the move? mad at tre if he’s buried the hatchet fully? dusappointed in josh if he does 9 touchdown celebrations with him? turn your back to his super bowl float? or is it more of an “I don’t actually care but want to be as purebred Buffalo as possible” in the off-season? 😂😂who gaf why someone doesn’t like player x, do we all have to be in agreement on every single guy or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Get it done, reasonable price makes sense. Good production will come in handy for blocking too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716to540 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Not a fan of Gronkowski at all. I personally can not get beyond the blatant cheap shot on White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 21 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Remember, hate is always a you problem. All kidding aside, the above is profound. Is that one of those cool AA sayings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, 716to540 said: Not a fan of Gronkowski at all. I personally can not get beyond the blatant cheap shot on White. I’m trying to unpack the psychology of what it means if tre can, but you can’t 16 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: 😂😂who gaf why someone doesn’t like player x, do we all have to be in agreement on every single guy or something? We don’t but we have a few folks that are pretending it’d be more than just disagreeing on a target but actually upsetting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Can't stand the idea of the person. Though I do like the idea of the player on this team. Most balanced opinion I can offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: All kidding aside, the above is profound. Is that one of those cool AA sayings? What say Muppy and Rocky? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I understand why people don't want him but think about having him inside the 20 on first down. The man is a ball catching machine and can block even better. I say YES! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, 716to540 said: Not a fan of Gronkowski at all. I personally can not get beyond the blatant cheap shot on White. Get over it 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: not singling you out but for the anti gronk crowd… will you be judging beane for the move? mad at tre if he’s buried the hatchet fully? dusappointed in josh if he does 9 touchdown celebrations with him? turn your back to his super bowl float? or is it more of an “I don’t actually care but want to be as purebred Buffalo as possible” in the off-season? Fair questions. I won’t pretend to speak for others but I’ll answer for myself. Judging Beane - a little to be honest. I think Beane has done a great job and has earned a ton of “benefit of the doubt” with me but I would not love the move. Mad at Tre - no. That is completely up to Tre. Not my place to think for him. Disappointed in Josh - no, same reason as Tre. That said, I would not be likely to high five Gronk myself (although I freely admit that is virtually impossible to ever realistically happen). Turn my back on the float - not in a million years because that is a team float, not Gronk’s float. I may not agree with bringing him on board but I’m a Bills fan first, thru and thru. I care. I wouldn’t spend this much time posting on the topic when i hardly ever post if I didn’t. That said, I recognize that others may have different views and I’m a Bills fan first and foremost. Go Bills! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Putin said: Get over it Why should he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, GoBills808 said: Why should he? Why? In what world is it healthy or a good character trait to not be able to forgive someone for such a minor transgression in the big picture 5 years later? Is this real life or a bunch of online Tony Soprano wanna-be's? Virtue signaling on Gronk while embracing your own inner azzhol is apparently OK because HE did it first. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Sign him ! And dont give me any of this trey White BS, i dont care. Gronk is not a felon so all that matters is winning the Superbowl. Edited March 4, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Why? In what world is it healthy or a good character trait to not be able to forgive someone for such a minor transgression in the big picture 5 years later? Is this real life or a bunch of online Tony Soprano wanna-be's? Virtue signaling on Gronk while embracing your own inner azzhol is apparently OK because HE did it first. The only virtue signaling I see here is from the moral arbiters who cannot seem to grasp that there can exist multiple points of view on the same football player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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