CorkScrewHill Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I was not a big fan of letting him go … but the fact that the Raiders, Broncos, and Jaguars have all had him on their team and subsequently cut him is shocking and perhaps indicates there is a decline that theBills front office noticed before making the cut. Best wishes to him .. truly appreciated his contributions while he was with the Bills https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jaguars-release-john-brown-from-practice-squad/ar-AARh3q5 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I think we can be done with John Brown now. It's time to let him go. 1 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Wow. He sure fell off a cliff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, hemma said: Wow. He sure fell off a cliff. Some guys just need the right team, he needed to be here or the chiefs for the long ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) That's got to be hard. One year he piles up 1,000 yards as a starter on a dynamic offense. Two years later, he can't find a spot on a crappy 53 man squad. Edited November 30, 2021 by hondo in seattle 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 If someone gets injured on the Bills I could see him getting picked up in an emergency role. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: I was not a big fan of letting him go … but the fact that the Raiders, Broncos, and Jaguars have all had him on their team and subsequently cut him is shocking and perhaps indicates there is a decline that theBills front office noticed before making the cut. Best wishes to him .. truly appreciated his contributions while he was with the Bills https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jaguars-release-john-brown-from-practice-squad/ar-AARh3q5 Our offense hasnt gotten better without him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: That's got to be hard. One year he piles up 1,000 yards as a starter on a dynamic offense. Two years later, he can't find a spot on a 53 man squad. Well, he had an 8 year NFL career. That's way longer than the average. You're gonna hit the wall eventually. Guys in his 30s. Coaches and GMs always go with youth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Umm….. Franchise QBs elevate the players around them🤔 That is all. 5 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 His body lies a-smoldering in the grave... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Some guys just need the right team, he needed to be here or the chiefs for the long ball. Where the Bills miss him are on those WR screens. He had some big TD's on those in games against Baltimore, Seattle and NYJ. If I recall they tried to run a couple in the Tennessee game this season and ended up killing drives tryin'. They just don't have a good option for those on the roster. Diggs can do it but he draws so much attention that it makes it more difficult than doing it with Brown on the opposite side of the field. 26 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: If someone gets injured on the Bills I could see him getting picked up in an emergency role. Maybe.........but they've been missing some of the things that he brought to the table all year and they didn't pick him up then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I think we can be done with John Brown now. It's time to let him go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I was a proponent of keeping him on a reduced salary. Props to McD and Beane for seeing something I did not, and bringing in Sanders who still seems to have the talent and appears to be a solid locker room guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I was a proponent of keeping him on a reduced salary. Props to McD and Beane for seeing something I did not, and bringing in Sanders who still seems to have the talent and appears to be a solid locker room guy. Actually Sanders has basically produced about the same per game as John Brown did last year....50 yards a game.........but with a lower catch % (Brown 63.5% to Sanders 59%). Brown was hurt and we were down on his production. So it's all relative. Sanders had a very nice stretch in October but yikes..........he's been invisible for a month other than missing drive killing blocks. WR is a big need for next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Interesting....I thought he was on the practice squad for "the girls". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 He was doing fine last year til he got injured. Wonder if the knee is not getting healthy. He sat out a while and when he came back was clearly never at full strength. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I was a proponent of keeping him on a reduced salary. Props to McD and Beane for seeing something I did not, and bringing in Sanders who still seems to have the talent and appears to be a solid locker room guy. I saw him get hot in the face with the ball a few times last year after he returned from injury. That probably did him in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Actually Sanders has basically produced about the same per game as John Brown did last year....50 yards a game.........but with a lower catch % (Brown 63.5% to Sanders 59%). Brown was hurt and we were down on his production. So it's all relative. Sanders had a very nice stretch in October but yikes..........he's been invisible for a month other than missing drive killing blocks. WR is a big need for next season. Give me Dotson from Penn St. looks like a perfect fit in the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Bring him in to the practice squad just incase we end up with injuries. The end of the season last year put us in a spot. Bring him in on the cheap. He was a big part of the turn around. Throw him a bone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Give me Dotson from Penn St. looks like a perfect fit in the offense. In the third round after we draft oline high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: I saw him get hot in the face with the ball a few times last year after he returned from injury. That probably did him in here. What does that mean? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Fact is, John Brown was a one trick pony. Straight line speed. Never questioned Emmanuel Sanders replacing him for a second. Sanders is a complete receiver. Much better route runner. Light years ahead of Brown on contested catches and not afraid to run across the middle and get hit. With age and injuries, Brown's one skill has eroded to a point where it doesn't make up for his inadequacies in other facets of the game like it used to. Will always look at his couple years here fondly. But his time has passed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 He got a good second contract after his one year flyer in BAL from us and had a career year here as a WR1. Man made his money and should probably hang it up and enjoy his shekels for a bit and plan for his life after football. I will miss his TD dances and completely smoking Gilmore for a TD against the Pats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Drug problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, wppete said: Drug problem? No, he was just hot in the face. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: In the third round after we draft oline high? Because that always works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: In the third round after we draft oline high? Dotson seems like a first rounder........nothing wrong with taking a WR1 type in round 1. There are usually quite a few very nice interior lineman available in free agency..........All Pro's even............teams draft them early but then often let them walk because they desperately need to spend UFA dollars at high $ positions.......or their team just falls apart and they figure they have bigger concerns than paying market rate for a very good guard. The ideal formula is to draft your QB/passrusher1/LT/CB1/WR1 with your #1's..........then extend them a little early so you get a bargain rate..........then if you come up short at lesser $ positions like interior OL you can buy high quality at that position in UFA. Edited November 30, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Dotson seems like a first rounder........nothing wrong with taking a WR1 type in round 1. There are usually quite a few very nice interior lineman available in free agency..........All Pro's even............teams draft them early but then often let them walk because they desperately need to spend UFA dollars at high $ positions.......or their team just falls apart and they figure they have bigger concerns than paying market rate for a very good guard. The ideal formula is to draft your QB/passrusher1/LT/CB1/WR1 with your #1's..........then extend them a little early so you get a bargain rate..........then if you come up short at lesser $ positions like interior OL you can buy high quality at that position in UFA. Don't wanna lose the fastball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What does that mean? I'm guessing it was a typo and he meant to say 'hit in the face', as in the ball going through his hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Some guys just need the right team, he needed to be here or the chiefs for the long ball. We definitely could use him in our offense at Minimum Vet. He could replace Kumerow in the lineup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: His body lies a-smoldering in the grave... It's supposed to be John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave Now if he was a DB and was perpetually getting toasted, then maybe smoldering would be right. 5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Fact is, John Brown was a one trick pony. Straight line speed. Never questioned Emmanuel Sanders replacing him for a second. Sanders is a complete receiver. Much better route runner. Light years ahead of Brown on contested catches and not afraid to run across the middle and get hit. With age and injuries, Brown's one skill has eroded to a point where it doesn't make up for his inadequacies in other facets of the game like it used to. Will always look at his couple years here fondly. But his time has passed. This. Brown's effectiveness would be diminished even more by teams playing two deep safeties most of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 He was never the same after his calf injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I thought it was pretty clear last year it was over for him. Lots of niggling injuries and even when he was healthy he struggled to separate. Will always appreciate what he did for the team in 2019, but some people overreacted, remember the "John Brown is a true #1 receiver" topics? He had a good career, was a good complimentary receiver and picked up the slack for us in 2019 when we were starting the process of upgrading our receiver talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Our offense hasnt gotten better without him That's like saying our running game hasn't gotten better after we released Shady. Some guys just fall off a cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Dotson seems like a first rounder........nothing wrong with taking a WR1 type in round 1. There are usually quite a few very nice interior lineman available in free agency..........All Pro's even............teams draft them early but then often let them walk because they desperately need to spend UFA dollars at high $ positions.......or their team just falls apart and they figure they have bigger concerns than paying market rate for a very good guard. The ideal formula is to draft your QB/passrusher1/LT/CB1/WR1 with your #1's..........then extend them a little early so you get a bargain rate..........then if you come up short at lesser $ positions like interior OL you can buy high quality at that position in UFA. I am on the either a LT or a WR in round 1 train. I could, as we discussed elsewhere, be sold on a corner but would need the draft to fall in a very specific way. I'm not sure I see the argument for any other position in the 1st this year. They need to start putting more elite talent around Josh Allen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What does that mean? hit in the face. struck with the football in the face. as a professional wide receiver. AFCC and (I think) NE on MNF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Reminds me of my old car, lots of speed but the body rusted out and nobody would buy . Edited November 30, 2021 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Can he be signed to practice squad? Good insurance policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: ¿Hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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