TheBeaneBandit Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I bet my life this will be the key aspect that costs us in the playoffs. Please try some kind of trade Beane. 8 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Feliciano has been dreadful. 16 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Josh Allen hides the O line deficiencies pretty well. If the Bills had a top 5 o-line in the league we could be straight unstoppable. 11 8 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Mitch is solid and D Williams when he kicks inside was effective in my opinion. But Mongo has been below average. Not tragic like Ford was but a definite weak link. The only issue is that there isn’t much out on the market and the Bills have a cap situation that isn’t the best. It also doesn’t help that good Oline players are usually not on the trade market mid season. Maybe if they get Brown back they can kick Williams inside and put in Ike? Internal options aren’t the best. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Norelli? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 i dont disagree about the Line, not one bit. not real sure what can be done about it at this point tho. if u trade for a good young O lineman, yer gonna have to overpay, if u trade for a serviceable older guy, youll probably have to eat a ton of salary. mbe theres a diamond in the rough hanging around that wont cost an arm and a leg, have no idea who that may be tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 It's built for pass pro...run blocking has been bad most games. Pass blocking hasn't been great either in some of them which defeats the purpose of building a line for pass pro if it isn't good at that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Unfortunately nothing will be done about it this year. Hopefully Josh can cover for this garbage the rest of the year. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Josh Allen hides the O line deficiencies pretty well. If the Bills had a top 5 o-line in the league we could be straight unstoppable. Couldn't agree more.. he avoids pressure and extends play so well.. I certainly hope they are trying to do something about it.. although unfortunately there are no easy answers... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Trade market is slim for OL I imagine but would love an OL and a CB in a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: i dont disagree about the Line, not one bit. not real sure what can be done about it at this point tho. if u trade for a good young O lineman, yer gonna have to overpay, if u trade for a serviceable older guy, youll probably have to eat a ton of salary. mbe theres a diamond in the rough hanging around that wont cost an arm and a leg, have no idea who that may be tho. Overpay. Bills should be all in now to win the SB. Who cares about future draft picks when you might be able to get a guy that has already proven to be good. Epenesa, Ford, Basham all second round picks that are doing little to nothing. It's time to mortgage the future to win now!!!! 1 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The Dolphins are great on the interior Dline. I actually think our Oline did average against them. The gameplan needs to help them out more, and it did in the second half. I don’t disagree that we need to upgrade at the guard positions, but we are serviceable there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Run the ball less. Stop forcing yourself to do what you are not good at. Edited October 31, 2021 by TBBills 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Yea, I'm done with Feliciano. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The Bills o-line is an absolute mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Ive been saying this since Ritchie and Woods left. I can live with Morris but the guards need to go for sure. Brown looks like a stud in the making and Dawkins is solid but inside needs a overhaul. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'd bench Feliciano. It is beyond a joke now. He is awful. 6 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: I'd bench Feliciano. It is beyond a joke now. He is awful. I think the weight loss was not good for his game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Morse gets no push at all and Feliciano has been terrible. Ford I think it is safe to say he is a bust. Year 3 I was hopeful but he is not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think the weight loss was not good for his game. Agree. He was never a technician but he had some merit as a big mauler. He is now just a bad technician with below average power. Mess. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It's built for pass pro...run blocking has been bad most games. Pass blocking hasn't been great either in some of them which defeats the purpose of building a line for pass pro if it isn't good at that either. Line is bad and when our backs do get a crack, they lack burst or power or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Is there a big hulking monster free agent guard who is currently spending his days on some remote farm shoving around hay bales and smashing a heavy bag in a barn, filled with rage at being overlooked and waiting for Beanes phone call and a shot at redemption? Just wondering... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I bet my life this will be the key aspect that costs us in the playoffs. Please try some kind of trade Beane. And what would you trade for who? (Serious question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Felicano was decent last year. In the offseason, he dropped weight to become “more athletic” was he’s been bad this year. Not sure if Felicano bulked back up if he would be more effective, but I agree with others, he’s been a weak link in the interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) I found myself wondering as the game went on - which is the better call? Replacing Spencer Brown with Tommy Doyle? or Shifting Daryl Williams from RG to RT, shifting Jon Feliciano from LG to RG, and replacing Feliciano at LG with Ike Boettger? Seems like you're messing with continuity quite a bit doing all of that. Edited October 31, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I dont know what Wyatt Teller did to get in the doghouse but McDermott should have had a little more patience with him 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Feliciano has been dreadful. Dude got payed. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The line has not been good enough at times but we don’t do a ton well that takes some of the pressure off. We have to get the ball out of the QB’s hands on plays that developer quicker. You can also almost guarantee we are running the ball when we line up with Davis, Kumerow, and Sweeney. We did a better job of making plus literally with swings and screens. But it wasn’t until we started firing quickly to Beasley underneath that everything started to open up for us. I have been beating this drum all season and last. Our quick passing game, or lack of it, is hurting us just as much as our RB’s or OL have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Would rather play bates then mongo 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I found myself wondering as the game went on - which is the better call? Replacing Spencer Brown with Tommy Doyle? or Shifting Daryl Williams from RG to RT, shifting Jon Feliciano from LG to RG, and replacing Feliciano at LG with Ike Boettger? Seems like you're messing with continuity quite a bit doing all of that. I think one reason is that they're not happy w/ their "best 5" & used Brown's absence as an opportunity to try to improve. Brown is presumably among the top 5. (Not that it's relevant to the discussion, but so is Williams.) It's the guard's play that is primarily lacking. So, since Mongo isn't doing well enough on the left, have him try right. Ford wasn't cutting it, so leave him on the bench & try Botteger(sp?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I think if we could bring in someone to solidify the LG spot it would be solve the problem. People have mentioned Andrew Norwell from Jax. Get r done Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: The Dolphins are great on the interior Dline. I actually think our Oline did average against them. The gameplan needs to help them out more, and it did in the second half. I don’t disagree that we need to upgrade at the guard positions, but we are serviceable there. Yea I think we’re looking at their team record and assuming they don’t do anything well but that is very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I bet my life this will be the key aspect that costs us in the playoffs. Please try some kind of trade Beane. Ain’t nothing new. We know this (most of us anyway). This was the case last season and all we did was make sure that we kept the OL intact 🙏🏻 we can do something…. But I’m definitely not holding my breath. An upgrade @ cb2 would be nice too. Also, not happening. 41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'd bench Feliciano. It is beyond a joke now. He is awful. Are you sure? I read here on this very forum that he’s good. dude is a bum. Always has been. 41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'd bench Feliciano. It is beyond a joke now. He is awful. Are you sure? I read here on this very forum that he’s good. dude is a bum. Always has been. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Feliciano has been dreadful. old news. He's a bum. Can only get it up after his QB is on his back.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Would rather play bates then mongo I’d rather you play than Mongo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 trading a 2nd for Norwell seems okay. Our past 2nd rounders lately have been duds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: And what would you trade for who? (Serious question) Even if it has to be a slight overpay Norwell or Hernandez as a plan B. 34 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Would rather play bates then mongo Im open to it👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 ah, Bills Mafia turns into Bills Firing Squad, as predicted. Let me see... yep, I can set my watch to 5:51pm. Even after a win. So predictable. 1 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said: ah, Bills Mafia turns into Bills Firing Squad, as predicted. Let me see... yep, I can set my watch to 5:51pm. Even after a win. So predictable. Um this was known before this game even started holmes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Ike, Mongo, Ford... Maybe it's not the players... Line calls? line coach? Something is way off. Can't quite get my head around 3 different players are all awful at LG... None show any better than the next. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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