wjag Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5, 7, 11, 13, 17 or 19.... He's primed to jump 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Allen has a ton of respect from the players, moreso than the fans. I was shocked he made it onto the list at all last year. I think he has a decent shot of being top 5, if I had to bet on it I'd guess #8. He is definitely a top 10 player in the NFL. And I would put Diggs top 20 easily. And the way Beasley played last year. He should be top 50. Tre White needs to be in the top 50 also. Lets go Buffalo. This is OUR year baby!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) This is my top 10 guess; Rodgers Mahomes Brady A. Donald L. Jackson Allen Henry Diggs D. Adams Watson Edited May 27, 2021 by Inigo Montoya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: This is my top 10 guess; Rodgers Mahomes Brady Darnold L. Jackson Allen Henry Diggs D. Adams Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MJS said: I agree. I don't think he cracks the top 10 this year. But, you never know... If anyone thinks that Brady won't be top 5 after winning the Super Bowl, you live in another universe. Does Brady deserve top 5? Perhaps not, but he will absolutely be top 5. He beat Washington.....barely. Some guy named Heineken was their QB They beat Drew Brees who threw 3 INTs because his arm literally was dead. We all watched that game and felt sorry for him. He shouldn't have played. They were gifted the NFC Championship because the Packers went full stupid at the end......Brady threw 3 INTs The Chiefs played with cones as an offensive line and their Defense is why they won. Brady walks into Mike Evans AB Godwin Gronk Fournette and a very good oline. No. Just no. That was one of the worst playoff runs ever. They got every break of significance that had nothing to do with Tom Brady. I guarantee he is not top 5. Top 10 maybe. Tom Brady isn't one of the 10 best QBs in the league. I know this because he needs THREE of the best WRs in the NFL to put up decent numbers. Now do I want him to be my QB in a Super Bowl? Yes absolutely. Would I want him for 17 games if my offense had Las Vegas Raiders weapons for an offense? Or even the Ravens, Eagles, Bears, or most any team not the Chiefs Bills or Dallas like weapons.........he picked Tampa for a reason folks.... Zero chance. Zero chance you're making the playoffs. Edited May 27, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Hopefully he is ranked lower than last year so you guys will have something to rage about until training camp starts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I think he'll be in the 7-10 range. I think he needs to do it for another year for top 5 It should be top 100 for THAT SEASON. Past performance should have no effect on where they're rated. Whether they're one year wonders or HOFers shouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Deserves top 5, likely top 10. Any lower than that is bullspit. Agreed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: He beat Washington.....barely. Some guy named Heineken was their QB They beat Drew Brees who threw 3 INTs because his arm literally was dead. We all watched that game and felt sorry for him. He shouldn't have played. They were gifted the NFC Championship because the Packers went full stupid at the end......Brady threw 3 INTs The Chiefs played with cones as an offensive line and their Defense is why they won. Brady walks into Mike Evans AB Godwin Gronk Fournette and a very good oline. No. Just no. That was one of the worst playoff runs ever. They got every break of significance that had nothing to do with Tom Brady. I guarantee he is not top 5. Top 10 maybe. Tom Brady isn't one of the 10 best QBs in the league. I know this because he needs THREE of the best WRs in the NFL to put up decent numbers. Now do I want him to be my QB in a Super Bowl? Yes absolutely. Would I want him for 17 games if my offense had Las Vegas Raiders weapons for an offense? Or even the Ravens, Eagles, Bears, or most any team not the Chiefs Bills or Dallas like weapons.........he picked Tampa for a reason folks.... Zero chance. Zero chance you're making the playoffs. 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: What kind of wager would you like to make? I’m 100% certain he won’t be in the top 5 Look, I don't think he deserves it, I just think it will happen. It's just the Brady love fest world we live in. If he ties his shoes the proper way he'll have a mob of people ready to congratulate him. I don't think he deserves top 10. But I do think he'll land in the top 5. Brady was 14th his last year as a Patriot. That year where their offense was crap and Brady was frustrated out of his mind all year with his receivers. In what wild world was Brady a top 14 player in 2019? He was nowhere near that, but yet that's where he ranked. His lowest rank before then was 6th. I just think with him switching teams and winning the Superbowl he'll get over hyped and land in the top 5, even though he doesn't deserve it. Edited May 27, 2021 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, MJS said: Look, I don't think he deserves it, I just think it will happen. It's just the Brady love fest world we live in. If he ties his shoes the proper way he'll have a mob of people ready to congratulate him. I don't think he deserves top 10. But I do think he'll land in the top 5. Brady was 14th his last year as a Patriot. That year where their offense was crap and Brady was frustrated out of his mind all year with his receivers. In what wild world was Brady a top 14 player in 2019? He was nowhere near that, but yet that's where he ranked. His lowest rank before then was 6th. I just think with him switching teams and winning the Superbowl he'll get over hyped and land in the top 5, even though he doesn't deserve it. Cant we just keep arguing about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: I respect the ***** out of him. Did you watch the NFC Championship game? He threw 3 interceptions in the 2nd half. Green Bay ***** it up. Yes, they were luck to win that game. And that’s all I have to say about it. Good day to you He had a very mixed year. He threw more just flat out bad picks than I have ever seen him throw. But at the end of the year when the Buccs were chasing a playoff berth he played his best football and then while he was pretty average in the NFCCG he played great in the Superbowl. I agree with you he was about the 6th best in the league last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I suspect he will be top 10. If they went off talent alone and not favor the QB position he might be lower than the WR trio of Diggs, Adams, and Hopkins. But given QB's get a bump my guess he will be top 5. There are some intriguing non-QB players to rank. Quenton Nelson is by far the best guard in the league. Kelce and Kittle are superstars. Besides Aaron Donald there are several defenders that are top 10 worthy as well like Ramsey, TJ Watt, and Joey Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I suspect he will be top 10. If they went off talent alone and not favor the QB position he might be lower than the WR trio of Diggs, Adams, and Hopkins. But given QB's get a bump my guess he will be top 5. There are some intriguing non-QB players to rank. Quenton Nelson is by far the best guard in the league. Kelce and Kittle are superstars. Besides Aaron Donald there are several defenders that are top 10 worthy as well like Ramsey, TJ Watt, and Joey Bosa. I don't think Jalen Ramsey is top 10 worthy, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) On 5/27/2021 at 10:59 AM, Big Blitz said: #4 behind: Mahomes Rodgers Donald In any order the rest of the top 10: Adams Ramsey Nelson Cook Henry Diggs I've been racking my brain on "Neslon" for a about 5 minutes. Why can't I figure out who that is? ...... Also, I have a hard time believing Myles Garrett won't be in the top 10. My top 10 in no particular order (that I think they'll put in there) : Rodgers, Mahomes, Donald, Allen, Garrett, Diggs, Adams, Brady, Henry, I'm stuck on 10 between Watt, Matthieu, Kelce Edited May 28, 2021 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 He should be no lower than #10. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 6:02 AM, eball said: So, prior to last season the rankings had Josh at #87, which was somewhat controversial in that many felt he didn’t belong there. After his breakout 2020 season, finishing 2nd in MVP voting and getting to the AFC Championship game, where will he fall? I’m predicting top 5. Thoughts? Top 10 as the top-100 includes Defensive players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 He has to be top 10 and should be a shoe in for top 5. He was runner up for MVP in the league, so you know…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) #101, so he throws for 5300 yards, rushes fir 500, and pisses off every NFLN analyst and of course pff so they have eat their crow and finally give him respect. God, I can’t wait for him to show this wasn’t a fluke last year. Oh and all of those Lamar just needs receivers eat their words when he has no 6 guys they drafted in the last 3 years as well as Sammy etc., and still is #32 in the NFL in passing. Bitter, maybe a little. I understand the question mark before 2020. Now it’s just silly. in all seriousness, he’ll make the top 10. It will still be lower than it should be given he was the runner up for mvp, but I don’t see these clowns giving him #2 although he earned it. If you just think of the definition which is who impacted his team the most, how can you not say Allen didn’t make this team the last year. Edited May 28, 2021 by machine gun kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 He is in Top 5 QBs in everyone's list. Considering that there are 3-5 marquee players at skill positions and the guys who sack the QB, I would say he will be somewhere between 8-15. Watching and hearing some of the off season NFL shows, there are still plenty of doubters of Allen and they participate in creating this Top 100 list; hence there is going to be that push against him. I can easily see the following players (who are all fantastic players) above Allen in the rankings (Due to some of their bias for these players and against Allen). QB: Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Wilson, Jackson and Watson RB: Henry WR: Hopkins, Diggs, Adams TE: Kelce DL: Donald, T.J. Watt DB: Howard, Adams, Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: He is in Top 5 QBs in everyone's list. Considering that there are 3-5 marquee players at skill positions and the guys who sack the QB, I would say he will be somewhere between 8-15. Watching and hearing some of the off season NFL shows, there are still plenty of doubters of Allen and they participate in creating this Top 100 list; hence there is going to be that push against him. I can easily see the following players (who are all fantastic players) above Allen in the rankings (Due to some of their bias for these players and against Allen). QB: Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Wilson, Jackson and Watson RB: Henry WR: Hopkins, Diggs, Adams TE: Kelce DL: Donald, T.J. Watt DB: Howard, Adams, Ramsey You just accurately typified why I could care less about shows like this just like power rankings. Currently among most we are #3 and that is very fair, but if we were ranked #6, does it really matter if we end up 14-3, top ranked, make the SB, and whether we win or lose we made it. I certainly think we can make it this year. We certainly aren’t making 10.5 like the odds makers State. That’s ok as they picked us in Vegas to win 8-9 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I suspect he will be top 10. If they went off talent alone and not favor the QB position he might be lower than the WR trio of Diggs, Adams, and Hopkins. But given QB's get a bump my guess he will be top 5. There are some intriguing non-QB players to rank. Quenton Nelson is by far the best guard in the league. Kelce and Kittle are superstars. Besides Aaron Donald there are several defenders that are top 10 worthy as well like Ramsey, TJ Watt, and Joey Bosa. Talent alone. OK. Well, since QB is by far the most difficult position to play well in sports, Allen is going to, and should be, ranked higher than any WR in the game. Think of it like a new league staring and all the players are released into a talent pool. You are one of 32 GM's and you hold the 5th or 6th pick. Josh Allen is on the board as well as Diggs, Adams and Hopkins. If you select one of those WR's before Allen, your stay as a GM in the new league most likely will be short lived. Edited May 29, 2021 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Top 3, if not 2. He was runner up for NFL MVP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 around 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Him and Diggs will be in top 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 He's top 5, maybe only top 10 but I honestly feel top 5. Players and coaches respect him regardless of the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 1:56 PM, Big Blitz said: I guarantee he is not top 5. Top 10 maybe. Brady will be top 5 and probably number 1 or 2 even though he doesn't deserve it for all the reasons you mentioned. He was #14 last year and it was arguably the worst year since his first few in the early 2000's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 7:16 AM, HappyDays said: Allen has a ton of respect from the players, moreso than the fans. I was shocked he made it onto the list at all last year. I think he has a decent shot of being top 5, if I had to bet on it I'd guess #8. Same here. If it was a fan vote no way Allen would have sniffed the top 100 last year. Will be interesting to see where he lands among his peers this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I hope they rank him low to piss him off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5th QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 11 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: 5th QB You think he’ll be the 5th QB on the list? Or 5th overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 12 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: I hope they rank him low to piss him off. I like Josh with a chip. That's worked out well so far. When he gets to the point of mid-career Brady........where he goes years between performances like the one in the AFCCG last year.........then perhaps it won't matter. But for now, there is still room to grow for a player with such an immense ceiling.......and having doubters has seemed to motivate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 If he ain't top 5 it's a lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 11:34 AM, Brennan Huff said: He had an amazing year. Especially at his age. But he didn’t even crack the top 3 in the MVP voting. He’s still a very good player, but he’s definitely on the decline. IMO, they were lucky to make it to the Super Bowl with his 3 interceptions.. He didn't EVEN crack top 3, and that's why he's on the decline? What kind of argument is that? Also, only 3 players even got votes. I mean, of course he's on the decline since he's 44 but he was a top 5 QB last year (I don't care about your lower ranking because you don't like him) and I don't think he's falling off a cliff any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/28/2021 at 11:34 AM, warrior9 said: I've been racking my brain on "Neslon" for a about 5 minutes. Why can't I figure out who that is? ...... Also, I have a hard time believing Myles Garrett won't be in the top 10. My top 10 in no particular order (that I think they'll put in there) : Rodgers, Mahomes, Donald, Allen, Garrett, Diggs, Adams, Brady, Henry, I'm stuck on 10 between Watt, Matthieu, Kelce Watt and Bosa > Garrett imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 hours ago, NewEra said: You think he’ll be the 5th QB on the list? Or 5th overall? 5th QB, maybe 4th ahead of Wilson, but topping Mahomes and the established QB's (AR/RW), and the SB winner is maybe a year away. Josh hasn't knocked anybody off any podiums... yet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 7:02 AM, eball said: So, prior to last season the rankings had Josh at #87, which was somewhat controversial in that many felt he didn’t belong there. After his breakout 2020 season, finishing 2nd in MVP voting and getting to the AFC Championship game, where will he fall? I’m predicting top 5. Thoughts? Numero ***** uno!🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 49 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: 5th QB, maybe 4th ahead of Wilson, but topping Mahomes and the established QB's (AR/RW), and the SB winner is maybe a year away. Josh hasn't knocked anybody off any podiums... yet I’d be shocked if Wilson was ranked ahead of him. Rodgers will be #1 for sure. 50/50 with Mahomes/allen for 2nd. Brady is Brady, but Josh had a better season minus our last game. 60/40 allen is the 3rd qb if he’s not 2nd imo. Aaron Donald could be as high as 2, behind Rodgers and as far down as 5 behind Mahomes/Allen and Brady. Maybe they drop Brady back a few and adams or diggs can finish ahead of him, but I don’t think it’ll happen. Dude won yet another SB.... in his first year with a new team. Impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I’d be shocked if Wilson was ranked ahead of him. Rodgers will be #1 for sure. 50/50 with Mahomes/allen for 2nd. Brady is Brady, but Josh had a better season minus our last game. 60/40 allen is the 3rd qb if he’s not 2nd imo. Aaron Donald could be as high as 2, behind Rodgers and as far down as 5 behind Mahomes/Allen and Brady. Maybe they drop Brady back a few and adams or diggs can finish ahead of him, but I don’t think it’ll happen. Dude won yet another SB.... in his first year with a new team. Impressive I'm coming from the stodgy old NFL voters perspective, not mine. Mahomes is ahead of Allen, Rodgers is Rodgers, and Brady won it all. Tough to jump any of them in establishment eyes, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: I'm coming from the stodgy old NFL voters perspective, not mine. Mahomes is ahead of Allen, Rodgers is Rodgers, and Brady won it all. Tough to jump any of them in establishment eyes, imo. I here ya. The thing is, it’s not old nfl voters voting. It’s the players. It’s a new breed of people.....but I do agree, it’ll be tough to jump them just yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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